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MacBook Pro Retina, 15-inch Late 2013, 10.9, unsystematic freeze/hang/unresponsiveness

My brand new MBP retina 15'' Late 2013 keeps freezing on me. Just clicked on a twitter link in an email and then it stopped again; no mouse movement; the seconds of the clock in the menu bar are not moving anymore; no force quit of apps possible; just the power switch helps to turn the machine off.


I don't have any peripherals attached besides apple bluetooth keyboard and mouse.


I already repaired disk permissions from cmd+R while booting, did SMC, PRAM reset and safe boot.


As I read there was an update for the 13'' firmware and one for the 15'' with NVIDIA (http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1705) but no new software for my machine yet.


Also looked into /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports but nothing too interesting.


I created sys diagnose and spin dump from activity monitor if that's handy, but Apple Support didn't want them.


They just suggest to reinstall the OS, but as there were already updates for ALL other new Retina MBPs, I'd suppose there needs one for this one too!

MACBOOK PRO (RETINA, 15-INCH, LATE 2013), OS X Mavericks (10.9), preinstalled

Posted on Dec 2, 2013 7:29 PM

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Apr 15, 2014 1:59 AM in response to profmac

I have the freeze like at least daily and I'm still in contact with Apple.


Latest news are a request for kernel core dumps. Has anyone ever done that here? I don't get the testing area passed:

https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#technotes/tn2004/tn2118.html#//apple_re f/doc/uid/DTS10003352



"Engineering has requested the following:


We would need a coredump taken at the time of the hang.


To obtain a Kernel Core Dump on Mac OS X 10.5 or higher, please follow the instructions immediately below.


For a coredump, you need an ethernet connection (airport will not work, nor will USB ethernet) from the panicking computer to another machine. (Any Mac will work as a coredump server; you just need a gigabyte or so of free space per coredump.)


On the server (non-panicking) machine:

server$ sudo mkdir /PanicDumps

Password:********

server$ sudo chown root:wheel /PanicDumps

server$ sudo chmod 1777 /PanicDumps

server$ sudo launchctl load -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.kdumpd.plist


On the client (panicking machine)

client$ sudo nvram boot-args="debug=0xd44 _panicd_ip=10.0.40.2"

Password: ********

where 10.0.40.2 is replaced by the IP address of the server. You must then reboot the client for the nvram settings to take effect.


If you hang, NMI the machine by hitting the Power button. This will generate a coredump file on the server machine in the directory /PanicDumps.


If you panic, the coredump file will be generated automatically on the server in the /PanicDumps directory.


When you have the file, please try to upload to your bug report. If the file is over 100 MB, you may not be able to upload to your bug report. In that case, just update your bug report with a note indicating you have a file that requires ftp. We will email you FTP server information so you can upload that way.


Please provide your response or results by updating your bug report.


Please compress any bundled files (e.g. nested folders) prior to uploading."

Apr 16, 2014 1:31 AM in response to profmac

Interesting. Works for me when frozen. Note that I'm doing so on the built-in keyboard if that's important.


Re your earlier post...On the one hand it's clear they still haven't fixed it, but on the other at least I don't have to keep wasting my time by posting them sysdiagnose's if they are asking for core dumps now.


That core dump stuff sounds like a crapshot in anything but a replicable dev situation. Hope you have luck though.


As a side-note, I've had 3 failures the past 3 days. I fear it won't improve things, but I may try getting them to replace the laptop.

Apr 24, 2014 3:30 AM in response to profmac

Just thought i would add my 2 pence, even though it is exactly the same screen freeze/audio playing issue we are all experiencing. My rMBP was originally getting Kernal Panics, where i could view a crash log. All fingers apperaed to be pointing at the GPU (Nvidia GT 650M) which was always visable in the crash logs. This quickly progressed into complete screen freezes. They are very few and far between, but still really annoying for a top-end MBP. I performed some extended testing myself, which revealed an SSD issue, so i took it to the genius bar and they replaced the sandisk for a samsung. The machine has been running fine for a couple of weeks, untill i got another screen freeze today. It mainly happens while i am doing some sort of rendering task inside an adobe programme, although i am fairly sure it is GPU based and not software as it has occured whilst not having any of these apps open! I really hope they find a fix for this soon, its like treading on eggshells. And for nearly 3grand, i expect this laptop to be bomb-proof.


Retina, 15-inch, Early 2013

Processor 2.7 GHz Intel Core i7

Memory 16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3

Graphics NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M 1024 MB

Apr 28, 2014 3:49 PM in response to Bergerac14

Today my Macbook pro Retina 13 inch (early 2013) freezed two times. I think it is not related to the NVidia GPU because this model does not have it. It has only the Intel integrated GPU.

I can't confirm the music keeps playing because I was't listening any music from the laptop when both freezes ocurred. The computer just stopped responding to any interaction with the touchpad and keyboard, the screen freezed (no flickering nor black lines) and when closing the lid the screen kept on, it did not turn off.

The only way is long pressing the power button until it turns off.

This laptop had not freezed like this for the last 6 months, and today it did it twice.

It is up to date with the software, that is, OS X 10.9.2.

May 15, 2014 2:52 AM in response to profmac

My MBP 15 Late 2013 has frozen a few times now also. I had to reinstall Mac OSX last week after a freeze caused issues where I could no longer boot into the OS. Still, it just froze on me again this morning just doing some web research using FireFox 29.0.1. My previous freeze before this was just playing YouTube videos in Safari.


I am very concerned and upset with this problem also. I use my laptop all day every day as I am a software developer doing iOS and Android development on this laptop.


So, reinstalling OSX did not solve anything. I am OSX 10.9.2

May 15, 2014 5:26 AM in response to James Stover

Are you using using hardware accelleration in Firefox?

I have a late 2013 MBP 15" retina, Intel integrated video only. In the first 8 weeks I had about 2 freezes per week, most (maybe all) while browsing in FF. (first magic mouse (bluetooth?) would stop, a few seconds later trackpad also). No problem running CPU-intensive applications for days.

I remembered I enabled Hardware accelleration in FF, and have seen no freezes for the last 4 weeks since I turned HW accelleration off again in FF.

I updated FF from 29.0.0 to 29.0.1 just yesterday.

May 17, 2014 3:52 AM in response to JofArnold

I have been avoiding using any browsing in the OS X. Instead I do all the browsing activity in a VM (Windows 7!). Haven't had a freeze since.


  • Replacing you're MBP won't work, did that.
  • Resetting or reinstalling the OS X won't work, did all of that looked for every possible solution.
  • Posting on this forum, won't work, I only received accusations of ranting and trolling. Probably I am supposed to be just grateful to be allowed to spend large amounts of money on Apple products.
  • Contacting Apple won't work. They don't even respond to bug reports.


So, the only solution to the freeze problem is: Use Windows, a lot more stable.


Shame on you Apple, I won't be buying any more products that easil and I used to be a very enthousiastic early adaptor of Apple products.

May 17, 2014 4:06 AM in response to Dogcow-Moof

So? Just because you don't experience this problem we should keep our mouth shut and stop complaining about it? How does you're comment contribute to this problem? And of course if every single MBP Retina would freeze constantly, Apple would do something about it, who would buy there machines?


The point is that given the prize and reputation of a MBP these problems should not occur, or at least should be resolved swiftly. I spend 6000 euro's!! on two MBPs both of which have the instant freeze problem, I bought the second one assuming it to be a hardware problem as I was told so. I am mad as ****.

MacBook Pro Retina, 15-inch Late 2013, 10.9, unsystematic freeze/hang/unresponsiveness

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