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Samsung 840 Pro SSD is not recognized as internal drive

Hi all,


I've purchased a samsung 840 Pro (512GB) SSD to install on my mid-2012 MacBook Pro running Mavericks (OSX 10.9.1) as a replacement for the factory 750GB (7200rpm) spinning drive.

I've followed the most typical (in my opinion) preparation procedure:


- put the SSD on a USB-SATA enclosure, carbon copy my existing HDD (including a recovery disk partition), formatted MAC OS Extended (Journaled) with a single GUID partition.

- restart the computer and boot from the SSD still on the USB enclosure (holding "option" key during startup. This works well and Mac OS starts and runs no problem.

- Shut down, replace the hard drives. And test.


NOW HERE IS THE PROBLEM:

Once I try to turn the computer on, it will not recognize the now internal SSD connected to the SATA interface, and therefore cannot boot from there.


I tried re-starting and booting from the old HDD now on the USB enclosure, which works, however it does not show the internal SSD as a bootable option (even though I could boot from aforementioned SSD while on the USB enclosure!)

While booted from the external USB (old HDD), I ran disk utility and the first time it displayed the internal SSD but it said it had ZERO space in it. In any attempt there after it doesn't even show the internal SSD.


I went back and forth swapping the internal drive between the SSD and the original HDD. The problem is consistent ONLY when the SSD is on the internal SATA connection.


I searched these forums and other sites for suggestions. The common denominator seemed to be a faulty SATA cable assembly. I ordered through Amazon next-day and got it here. I followed the procedure as outlined in other sites (iFixIt for example). Tried again with the SSD as internal SATA drive: NOTHING!


Reinstalled the old HDD internally (and put the SSD back in the USB dog house), re-started and everything works as advertised: Boot is ok from internal HDD, and it can see still the external SSD on the USB enclosure.


So, here I am, lost looking for answers. PLEASE HELP!


Thank you in advance for your time and input.

MacBook Pro (15-inch Mid 2012), OS X Mavericks (10.9.1), 2.6GHz i7 8GB RAM

Posted on Feb 5, 2014 3:12 PM

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Jul 7, 2014 1:25 PM in response to clintonfrombirmingham

Clinton....


I agree with the problem of 'geniuses'. Much of the problem is that they are 'trained' by Apple and told what to think and how to analyse in the Apple way. They have caused me so many problems in the past with contradictory and wrong advice. It pays to try things and do your own research.


(I've just found out how to erase Time Machine back up files from an external hard drive, so I can do a full back up now).


But my main concern is that the SATA cable failed first, with the old HDD in place. With no warning!

Sep 11, 2014 5:26 PM in response to nanortiz

I had a similar problem and resolved it without replacing the cable. I bought a 512G Samsung 840 EVO SSD to upgrade my mid 2010 15" Macbook Pro. The Mac built-in recovery did not recognize the Samsung.

***First I re-opened the case to check the sata connection. It was plugged in fine but my MBP still wouldn't recognize the ssd.

***Next I decided to see whether or not I might have damaged the cable during install. So I plugged the old HD in and my machine booted fine. Cable was ok.

***So I decided to see if the disk itself was bad. So I plugged the Samsung into my Mac (using the old hard drive) with a SATA to USB adaptor... I got a message "Disk cannot be read. Do you want to initialize it?" I formatted the Samsung as "Mac OS Extended (Journaled)" using the Mac Disk Utility. The drive was not broken but was operating fine.

***So I reopened my mbp and plugged in the Samsung. This time...Success!


Some folks have surely had the cable issue. Nanortiz mentions running the Disk Utility (with samsung internal and old hd usb) and one user had a drive go bad that had been running well. But I stumbled on this thread looking for a solution to a very similar situation. I'm guessing some folks are having my problem too. I've installed countless HDs on windows and linux machines. It never occurred to me that the Mac built-in recovery could not recognize and format a new disk, whatever its format. I am very pleased with my fast new solid state drive :-)

Oct 23, 2014 8:35 AM in response to nanortiz

Nanoritz,


Did you ever solve your problem? I am having the EXACT same problem with a newly installed Samsung Evo 840 1TB drive that I'm trying to make work in a mid-2010 Macbook Pro 17". I have tried a new SATA cable and that did not fix anything.


Here's another weird thing: when my new SSD is connected via SATA, the computer will not boot into OS X. But...when I boot into my Windows 7 bootcamp partition via SATA, everything works fine. smh...😕

Oct 23, 2014 8:44 AM in response to whoinventedfreeride

whoinventedfreeride


Have you tried putting the SSD in an internal enclosure and booting from it? If it will boot from the enclosure, that puts the cable back on the table as a possible culprit (again).


Give it a shot and call bak,


Clinton


MacBook Pro (15” Late 2011), OS X Yosemite 10.10, 16GB Crucial RAM, 960GB M500 Crucial SSD, 27” Apple Thunderbolt Display

Oct 23, 2014 11:39 AM in response to clintonfrombirmingham

Clinton,


I am currently using the SSD from an external USB 2 enclosure. From the external enclosure, I can boot into OS X or Windows 7 (from a Bootcamp partition) just fine.


Last night I installed a new SATA cable with the hope that my problems would be solved. The new SSD would not boot OS X properly with the new SATA cable. I was, however, able to boot into Windows 7 with the SSD attached via both the old and new SATA cable. This leads me to believe that in fact the SATA cable is fine and there is something else that is preventing OS X from booting via the SATA cable.


Additionally, when I first installed the SSD, I was able to boot successfully into OS X about five times. Then I started getting the gray progress bar (underneath the apple icon) on startup, which eventually turned into a gray circle with a slash through it.


When I put back the old HDD into the machine, everything works fine via the SATA cable. To be specific, my 17" MPB is a mid-2010 model with an i7 chip. I am running Yosemite OS X 10.10.

Oct 24, 2014 6:18 AM in response to whoinventedfreeride

Problem Solved: Turns out that my SATA cable was not bad. I am still using the original SATA cable (despite the fact that I ordered a new one).


Here's what solved my problem: Right after I installed the Samsung Evo 840 SSD, I used a third party app to enable TRIM. But apparently in Yosemite, apple will not allow the OS to boot if it detects that TRIM is enabled on a non-apple SSD.


I disabled TRIM and presto--my Samsung SSD boots just fine. What led me to investigate this solution is my Windows 7 bootcamp partition would always boot, even when OS X would not.


As a side note, I did notice for the first time that there is a gray progress bar that appears during startup. This initially worried me as a sign that something was wrong with the SSD. Apparently the gray progress bar during startup is a new, normal addition to Yosemite.

Oct 24, 2014 6:43 AM in response to whoinventedfreeride

That's odd - after using the latest version of Trim Enabler and disabling the kext signing, I had trim enabled. I just re-installed Yosemite to get rid of the kext alteration - didn't have any problems booting with the kext scheme disabled.


Clinton


MacBook Pro (15” Late 2011), OS X Yosemite 10.10, 16GB Crucial RAM, 960GB M500 Crucial SSD, 27” Apple Thunderbolt Display

Oct 26, 2014 12:19 AM in response to nanortiz

Hi all,


I had the same history on troubles with Samsung SSD disk on SATA.
My configuration is Macbook Pro mid 2012 - Intel Core i7 2.9 Ghz - Now Yosemite 10.10 (at the 1st installation Mavericks 10.9.5) / Samsung SSD 840 EVO 1 TB

I installed the SSD and it worked flawlessy for 45 days. On 45th day, when I restarted the OSx , I got the grey folder icon with question mark.

I went to an Apple store where the guy was able to restart the system but adviced me to backup everything and have the SSD disk replaced by the vendor.

And so I did. In waiting for the new SSD I put in place my old 750 GB HDD.

Before the arrival of the SSD I upgraded the system to Yosemite.

When the new SSD arrived, I initialized it (Journaled HFS+) and carbon copy the HDD to SSD. The SSD was on a usb 3.0 tray. The process took more than 10 hours 😟

Ok, after the transfer I opened the Mac and swapped the disks.

Drum roll and....nothing!! Now, with the brand new SSD disk inside I have the same grey folder icon with question mark!!!

I googled everywhere to...well, you know.

So I was going to order a new cable, but was saturday morning (yesterday) so before committing the order I decided to check carefully which kind of cable was installed.

Accidentally I disconnetted the very small cable branch that connect to the I/F sensor.

So I reconnected it, and checked very carefully the connection.

Almost hopelessly, I restarted OSx.

Well, now it works!!!!

I don't know why, but it works.

In conclusion:

  • the SSD drive is new but at the beginning it had the same problems of the 1st SSD;
  • I just made a careful check of the I/F sensor connection


Nome processore: Intel Core i7

Velocità processore: 2,9 GHz


MacBookPro9,2

Nome processore: Intel Core i7

Velocità processore: 2,9 GHz

Dec 3, 2014 6:25 PM in response to nanortiz

Nanortiz,

Have you resolved your problem? I am having the exact issue, but with both a Crucial X100 256gb and a Samsung 840 1tb SSD. Currently using a 3 year old Crucial 128gb SSD in a mid-2011 macbook pro with Yosemite and decided to upgrade to a bigger sad, thus the Crucial x100 256gb. Carbon copied new drive, booted up from external dock, but would not boot when put inside the Mac. Disk Utility shows that the drive has Partition Map Type: MBR (Master Boot Record); tried to reformat to a 1 partition with GUID, but process would hang at "waiting for disks to reappear"; also tried clean install Yosemite to the new drive on the dock, worked well and booted up the mac from the external drive, but would not boot when put inside, the same issue - Partition Map Type: MBR (Master Boot Record);

Don't think it's the sata cable issue as the old SSD still works when put back into the mac;

Similar situation with the Samsung 840.

No trim enabled in the mac.

Any help would be REALLY appreciated.

Feb 25, 2015 2:32 PM in response to nanortiz

This thread led me to research the KEXT Signing feature of Yosemite and this article explains that drawbacks of that approach so users can understand what the ramifications of choosing that option are. In my case I chose to disable the KEXT signing on my new SSD with trim enabled. Well then when I was done doing a few more things like updating dropbox, etc. I noticed I had a software update for yosemite for 10.10.2 or whatever. Since the SSD I was running was already on Yosemite I figured, "Sure it's just a small point update vs a major point update, so I'll just do this before I swap it over to my wife's mac book pro bay" Well, beware that, if you choose to enable TRIM on a third party SSD and disable the KEXT signing feature of Yosemite to do so, that the BOOT-ARG could be reset if the upgrade to Yosemite in the future happens to zap your PRAM. The same thing could happen if you zap your PRAM troubleshooting your previous issue because your designation of disabling the KEXT signing get's reset to ON instead of OFF like you set via SuperDuper or CarbonCopyCloner (super duper was WAY faster than CCC for what it's worth. SuperDuper took a couple hours and CarbonCopyCloner took nearly 2 days.)


Read these below as they helped me better understand why it worked one second and then why after an update it stopped working. I'm hoping that booting into recovery mode and re-setting the boot argument will allow me to boot back up.

http://blog.macsales.com/27116-disable-trim-before-upgrading-to-yosemite

http://blog.macsales.com/27116-disable-trim-before-upgrading-to-yosemite


~Tim

Apr 3, 2015 1:52 AM in response to nanortiz

Hi


I'm having the exact same problem with my Samsung 850Pro SSD, 256 GB on a MBP medio 2012. I have used endless nights trying to figure out, what the problem is. I have finally ordered a new SATA cable, and I feel convinced that this will do the trick.


I also tried to boot the SSD from a USB3 interface, but until last night - no luck. But last night - success! I don't know if the solution below works for you, but try it out:


  1. Press the on-button
  2. When the process seems to get stuck, quickly disconnect the USB wire and put it back in
  3. The Mac boots up like normal.

It seems that the SSD somehow looses connection while booting, and the way to correct this is to follow the steps above.


I can live with this, until the cable arrives. But its not a long term solution. Every time the computer goes into sleep mode, the USB looses connection, and I have to force restart... If anybody has any workarounds, you are more than well come.


Maybe I should note, that I'm running Mavericks right now to rule out any kext and trim problems.


Good luck :-)

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