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10.0.2 update removed instruments

I installed the update 10.0.2 for GarageBand X, in order to purchase extra in app content, and it removed a lot of the key instruments that were formerly available in 10.0.0 as recently as a day or so ago. Example: 10.0.0 Instrument Library for PIANO offers ... "Boesendorfer Grand Piano, Steinway Grand Piano, Yamaha Grand Piano and Experimental" which sub-includes "Backwards, Bowed Piano, Before Talkies, Daylight Piano, Ghost Piano, Nylon Synth Piano, Piano Motion, & Transistor Radio Piano." Wow!


But guess what? The "new update" 10.0.2 wipes away ALL of that and only gives the user "Steinway Grand." That's it for pianos.


Under the "Orchestral" menu, 10.0.0 offers in Brass: "French Horn Solo, French Horns, Full Brass, Trombones, Trumpets, & Tuba." !0.0.02 wipes most of that away and gives the user "French Horns, Trombones & Trumpets".


Strings! 10.0.0 offers "Basses, Cellos, Cinema Strings, Full Strings, Modern Strings, Session Strings, Smart Strings, String Ensemble, Studio Strings, Violas, Violins 1 & Violins 2." New updated GarageBand X 10.0.2 takes most of that away and gives user a choice of exactly two: "Smart Strings & String Ensemble."


Woodwinds! 10.0.0 offers "Bassoon Solo, Clarinet Solo, Clarinets, English Horn, Flute Solo, Flutes, Oboe, Piccolo & Saxophone. Update 10.0.2 reduces that to "Clarinet Solo, Flute Solo & Saxophone."


And so on and so on and so on.


Downloading the "add-on" app of extra sounds, loops, etc for $4.99 from the app store did NOT restore these taken away instruments which are basics for any serious musician. And yes, the "Legacy" instruments from GarageBand '11 do fill in a few gaps, but very few. It seems Apple, in the guise of "updating" the newest GarageBand for Mavericks, must have decided their original offering was too kind to its customers and quickly moved to disable — deliberately — as much as they could in terms of GarageBand X's usablitly in order to force musician clients to migrate to the $200 Logic Pro X, which is overkill in many songwriting situations. Hence the raison d'etre of GarageBand in the first place.


Over the years, Apple offered, then took away, whose wonderful Jam Packs. Then they offered Mainstage 2, which also gave users the Jam Packs libraries, then decided to take that away too. And now this deliberate crippling of an earlier product. There is a pattern here, and it is not kind to the actual musician who can make musical magic with GarageBand because it is .... make that was .... so good.


For the record, I bought one of the first Macintosh computers (128K) sold in Southern California — literally one of the first — on that very day back in 1983 when Mac was introduced. I have bought and used nothing but Mac, Mac, Mac ever since, and my household currently has an 24" iMac, a MacBook Air, a MacBood Pro, 2 Macbooks, an iPad 2, iPad Retina and iPad Mini, four iPhones and countless peripherals and Apple software & apps. I think I qualify as a loyal customer. Why is Apple treating me and other loyal Mac users with such disdain? I don't get it. And HOW can I possibly get back the first (and good) version of GarageBand X since the App Store will now only make the newer, inferior 10.0.2 available instead?


It's a tilting at windmills question, sure. But is there anyone at 1 Infinite Loop who thinks a problem like this needs fixing? Or realize that a problem exists?

BTW, no complaints about the telephone Apple Technical people I've talked to by phone, or the geniuses in my local Apple Store. Apple's staff people have been great. But the software.... Whew. Sometimes newer is not better.


Oh to be a personal friend of Tim Cook or Phil Schiller at this moment. But since I'm neither, I'm just putting this info out there into the world, and hoping something changes at my favorite computer company. (P. S. I'm not deleting my GarageBand '11. I need it now more than ever.) -- Respectfully, LEEINLA

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Posted on Mar 26, 2014 2:24 PM

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Feb 18, 2015 12:27 PM in response to LeeinLA

LeeinLA wrote:


I installed the update 10.0.2 for GarageBand X, in order to purchase extra in app content, and it removed a lot of the key instruments that were formerly available in 10.0.0 as recently as a day or so ago. Example: 10.0.0 Instrument Library for PIANO offers ... "Boesendorfer Grand Piano, Steinway Grand Piano, Yamaha Grand Piano and Experimental" which sub-includes "Backwards, Bowed Piano, Before Talkies, Daylight Piano, Ghost Piano, Nylon Synth Piano, Piano Motion, & Transistor Radio Piano." Wow!


But guess what? The "new update" 10.0.2 wipes away ALL of that and only gives the user "Steinway Grand." That's it for pianos.


Under the "Orchestral" menu, 10.0.0 offers in Brass: "French Horn Solo, French Horns, Full Brass, Trombones, Trumpets, & Tuba." !0.0.02 wipes most of that away and gives the user "French Horns, Trombones & Trumpets".


Strings! 10.0.0 offers "Basses, Cellos, Cinema Strings, Full Strings, Modern Strings, Session Strings, Smart Strings, String Ensemble, Studio Strings, Violas, Violins 1 & Violins 2." New updated GarageBand X 10.0.2 takes most of that away and gives user a choice of exactly two: "Smart Strings & String Ensemble."


Woodwinds! 10.0.0 offers "Bassoon Solo, Clarinet Solo, Clarinets, English Horn, Flute Solo, Flutes, Oboe, Piccolo & Saxophone. Update 10.0.2 reduces that to "Clarinet Solo, Flute Solo & Saxophone."


And so on and so on and so on.


Downloading the "add-on" app of extra sounds, loops, etc for $4.99 from the app store did NOT restore these taken away instruments which are basics for any serious musician. And yes, the "Legacy" instruments from GarageBand '11 do fill in a few gaps, but very few. It seems Apple, in the guise of "updating" the newest GarageBand for Mavericks, must have decided their original offering was too kind to its customers and quickly moved to disable — deliberately — as much as they could in terms of GarageBand X's usablitly in order to force musician clients to migrate to the $200 Logic Pro X, which is overkill in many songwriting situations. Hence the raison d'etre of GarageBand in the first place.


Over the years, Apple offered, then took away, whose wonderful Jam Packs. Then they offered Mainstage 2, which also gave users the Jam Packs libraries, then decided to take that away too. And now this deliberate crippling of an earlier product. There is a pattern here, and it is not kind to the actual musician who can make musical magic with GarageBand because it is .... make that was .... so good.


For the record, I bought one of the first Macintosh computers (128K) sold in Southern California — literally one of the first — on that very day back in 1983 when Mac was introduced. I have bought and used nothing but Mac, Mac, Mac ever since, and my household currently has an 24" iMac, a MacBook Air, a MacBood Pro, 2 Macbooks, an iPad 2, iPad Retina and iPad Mini, four iPhones and countless peripherals and Apple software & apps. I think I qualify as a loyal customer. Why is Apple treating me and other loyal Mac users with such disdain? I don't get it. And HOW can I possibly get back the first (and good) version of GarageBand X since the App Store will now only make the newer, inferior 10.0.2 available instead?


It's a tilting at windmills question, sure. But is there anyone at 1 Infinite Loop who thinks a problem like this needs fixing? Or realize that a problem exists?

BTW, no complaints about the telephone Apple Technical people I've talked to by phone, or the geniuses in my local Apple Store. Apple's staff people have been great. But the software.... Whew. Sometimes newer is not better.


Oh to be a personal friend of Tim Cook or Phil Schiller at this moment. But since I'm neither, I'm just putting this info out there into the world, and hoping something changes at my favorite computer company. (P. S. I'm not deleting my GarageBand '11. I need it now more than ever.) -- Respectfully, LEEINLA


THANK YOU for your posting! I'm trying to find an oboe! Do I have to pay an additional $200 (for Logic Pro, and/or $30 for MainStage) just to get a nice sounding (hopefully as nice as the latest 'Flute Solo' voice)?! (This stuff can be somewhat confusing, in case I'm overlooking an obvious solution.)

Apr 7, 2015 1:13 PM in response to JD321

It's so much worse than any of you imagine. Recently my MacBook Air got destroyed in a Starbucks accident. I found an old PowerBook G4 from 2006, which had GarageBand 2 (yes,2) installed. It immediately recognized my various MIDI controllers and played Grand Piano for me, now absent on GarageBand. When I received my new Air and tired the same thing, not only was Grand Piano missing, every single instrument sounded vastly better on the 2006 PowerBook than on the new Air. The sound card on the old model produces richer sound, the synthesis of instruments on the old model is far more persuasive. Let me note that everything else is "controlled" from an experimental standpoint. The sound is being output to a very fine stereo system from both devices. Everybody compares the latest iteration of Apple software to its immediate predecessor, but the fact here seems to be all but incredible: "vintage" Mac is better than new Mac, both in terms of hardware and in terms of software. Both the sound card and Garageband on the tank I unearthed are starkly better than what we have today. Even the interface, though less flashy and perhaps less versatile, is considerably easier to use. Truly an informative experiment in the ever-degrading performance of Apple, Inc.

Apr 25, 2015 9:24 AM in response to 3rd Day Believer

I must say GarageBand is fantastic.


Except...I just bought a new Macbook with Yosemite, mostly for the updated GarageBand. I was able to port over the 'legacy' instruments from my old MacBook (OS Lion), thanks in part to the suggestions in this discussion.


I also bought the Symphony jam pack, and was surprised to find that the new GB doesn't recognize the instruments!


I copied them into "Macintosh HD ▸ Library ▸ Application Support ▸ GarageBand ▸ Instrument Library"


Both the 'sampler instruments' (Cellos Legato.exs) and the 'sampler files' (VC_RS_legato_p_A#2.wav).


Since the new MacBook doesn't have a DVD drive, I can't do a regular 'install'.


Have I put them in the right place? Am I missing files from the install disk?

Apr 30, 2015 8:15 PM in response to Mike from Marin

I just found this notice from Apple, so it looks like I have to get a DVD drive to install the jam pack files:


Pro Applications: Some features do not work if drag installed or if copied following an Archive and Install

Always install Pro applications such as Final Cut Pro HD, Soundtrack, Soundtrack Pro, DVD Studio Pro, Motion, Shake (Qmaster), Logic, and GarageBand from the original discs.

Final Cut Pro programs (including Compressor, LiveType, and Soundtrack Pro) don't open, or quit unexpectedly when opened. This could also happen with DVD Studio Pro, Motion, GarageBand, Logic Pro, and Logic Express. (...)


Pro Applications: Some features do not work if drag installed or if copied following an Archive and Install - Apple Supp…

10.0.2 update removed instruments

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