Mac mini supported resolutions and refresh rates

I plan to purchase a Mac mini (Late 2012 or later) and I want to purchase a monitor other than Apple. I have found some articles in the discussions here that have had both success and failure connecting using 1) a dual-link DVI and 2) a mini-display port to display port adapters in order to get resolutions above the 1920 x 1080 max for HDMI and the 1920 x 1200 max for single link DVI. Personally, I am kinda interested in the second approach.


https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6316882

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4654055


Is it possible to determine what monitor refresh rates are supported by the Mac mini? FYI, I didn't find any info on monitor refresh rates for the MacBook Pro or Apple Thunderbolt Display either (to me that's odd).

I did find some Apple support articles and tech specs that mentioned a max refresh rate of 60 Hz for 1920 x 1080 for HDMI and I know LCD monitors work differently from CRTs. However, I know from personal experience that 60 Hz on an LCD monitor can encounter interference with other electrical devices.

Mac mini, OS X Mavericks (10.9.4)

Posted on Aug 19, 2014 7:21 PM

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Sep 2, 2014 9:05 PM in response to w3dude

I decided to post what I was able to determine from the references I mentioned previously. Please note that much of the text here is copied and pasted verbatim from the references listed at the bottom.


The purpose here is to try to determine the maximum resolution supported by the Mac mini (Late 2012) version.


First, you may find it helpful to see the specs for the Apple Thunderbolt Display. They are given below


Second, I am assuming you will use either the Thunderbolt port or HDMI port to connect a monitor or display. Each has a different maximum supported resolution.


Third, there are several adapters for the Thunderbolt port that can be used to connect a monitor or display to the Mac mini and this will also limit the maximum resolution that will be supported.


Fourth, I would recommend that you try to choose a display that supports your desired target resolution at a refresh rate of 60Hz or better. There is a lot of discussion on the internet and elsewhere that refresh rate does not matter with modern LCD monitors. This may or may not be true theoretically. However, I personally experienced flicker problems with totally different LCD monitors at home and at work. Both systems were totally different computers, monitors, and operating systems. Once I increased the refresh rate to 72 or 75 Hz, the flicker went away. My guess is that "crosstalk" was the source of the problem. I know that crosstalk is a common issue with 2GHz wireless devices and one reason for the popularity of the new generation of 5GHz wireless routers. You can decide for yourself.


Finally, don't forget to refer to the user manual for your display to determine the supported resolutions and refresh rates.


Apple Thunderbolt Display


For reference, here are the specs for the Apple Thunderbolt Display at the time of this article.


27-inch (diagonal viewable image size) thin film transistor (TFT) active-matrix liquid crystal display (LCD) with in-plane switching (IPS)


Resolution: 2560 by 1440 pixels

Colors (maximum): 16.7 million

Aspect ratio: 16:9

Viewing angle: 178° horizontal; 178° vertical

Brightness: 375 cd/m2

Contrast ratio: 1000:1

Response time: 12 ms


Thunderbolt Port


Thunderbolt gives you two channels on the same connector with 10Gb/s of throughput in both directions.


You can connect a Thunderbolt device using the Apple Thunderbolt Cable (2 m).


The Mac mini (Late 2012) Thunderbolt port also supports other types of displays:


Mini DisplayPort output using a Mini DisplayPort to Mini DisplayPort cable (optional)


A Mini DisplayPort display or a display connecting with a Mini DisplayPort to VGA, DVI, or HDMI adapter will work just like it was connecting to a Mini DisplayPort connector when plugging in directly to the Thunderbolt connector on your Apple computer.


When connecting a Mini DisplayPort display or a display using a Mini DisplayPort adapter to a Thunderbolt peripheral, make sure the display is connected at the end of the Thunderbolt chain. You can use only one Mini DisplayPort device in the Thunderbolt chain.


Note that Mini DisplayPort Monitors or Monitors connecting with Mini DisplayPort adapters will not function when connected through a Thunderbolt Display. They must be connected directly to the Thunderbolt port on the computer or to a non-display device as indicated in the previous paragraph.


DVI output using the Apple Mini DisplayPort to DVI Adapter (optional) for resolutions of 1920 x 1200 or lower.


NOTE: Why doesn't the DVI connector for my external display fit my Apple Mini DisplayPort to DVI adapter?

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Dual-Link DVI output using the Mini DisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI Adapter for resolutions above 1920 x 1200.


The product specs for the adapter mention a maximum resolution of 2560 x 1600 pixels. I couldn't find a reference specifically mentioning the maximum value for the Mac mini.


HDMI audio and video output using a third-party Mini DisplayPort to HDMI Adapter.


The HDMI port supports up to 1080p on HDMI connections. See below for more details.


The Mac mini (Mid 2010 and later supplies multichannel audio (up to 8 channels) and video signals over the Mini DisplayPort (now a Thunderbold port in the Late 2012 model). Of course, no additional adapter is necessary if you are connecting directly to the HDMI port.


HDMI Port


Which version of the HDMI spec do Macs with HDMI support?


Mac computers released after Mid 2010 are designed to work with HDMI devices complying with versions 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, 1.2a, 1.3, 1.3a, and 1.4 of the HDMI specification.


Which resolutions are supported on Macs using HDMI?


1920 x 1080 for a 1080i HDTV (1080 interlaced scan)


The HDMI port supports up to 1080p on HDMI connections. With the HDMI to DVI Adapter, the HDMI port will work with resolutions up to 1920 x 1200.


Which type of audio works with Macs using HDMI?


Apple supports 8-channel, 24-bit audio at 192kHz, Dolby Surround 5.1, and traditional stereo output.


Mac mini (Early 2006) and later computers use a combo mini-plug connector to output both digital audio and analog audio signals. You can connect audio in a number of ways:


Digital Audio: Use an optical mini-plug cable with the audio output on these computers to connect A/V receivers and home theater audio systems with 5.1 surround sound and optical audio inputs. A mini-plug to toslink adapter may be needed to connect to some receivers.


Digital Audio to HDMI: Both Mac mini (Mid 2010) and Mac mini (Mid 2011) output digital audio to an HDMI capable receiver or television through the built-in HDMI port.


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References


Mac mini (Late 2012): External ports and connectors

Apple Mini DisplayPort adapters: Frequently asked questions (FAQ)

Mac mini (Early 2006) and later: Connecting to a television

Thunderbolt ports and displays: Frequently asked questions (FAQ)

Mac computers: Frequently asked questions about using HDMI

About Thunderbolt to Thunderbolt cable (2.0 m)

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Aug 20, 2014 1:39 AM in response to w3dude

In general the Mac mini will support refresh rates the display says it can do, this is sent by the display as EDID information down the cable to the computer. As most 1920x1080 or 1920x1200 resolution displays are TVs or computer displays somewhat pretending to be displays they typically offer only refresh rates similar to TVs which means 50Hz (PAL) and 60Hz (NTSC) and if your very lucky you might get 24p as well.


By the way even most purely computer displays only offer 50 or 60 or at best 75Hz. LCDs are a progressive display and these rates are normally considered to be adequate to prevent flicker. Also there should not be any interference from any properly operating equipment, this is what organisations like FCC test to prevent. In the days of CRT displays a 60Hz interlaced refresh rate might show flicker but you have an LCD with progressive display.


It is possible to a limited extent to define custom resolutions and refresh rates using a third-part tool like SwitchResX, see http://www.madrau.com

Aug 20, 2014 7:15 AM in response to w3dude

Sorry, experienced technical problems posting previous reply. Here is my correct response


thanks for taking the time to reply.


I already knew about the HDTV limitations. I was asking because I am trying to decide on a computer monitor.


FYI my current Samsung Syncmaster LCD monitor is a little dated but has progressive scan, an excellent monitor (pcmag editors choice) and flickers at 60 Hz but looks great at 75 Hz in Windows. If you look at other postings on the discussion groups here you will find others experiencing various monitor problems. Hence the reason for my posting.


I disagree with your statement that "Mac mini will support [whatever] refresh rates the display says it can do". This isn't true for Windows and Linux and it conflicts with the Apple support documentation I have read so far.


FYI, I used to work for the govt., so I know your statement about FCC testing to prevent electrical interference and crosstalk is true in theory but not in practice. Crosstalk by electrical devices happens all the time. I am currently experiencing interference between my 2GHz cordless phone and wireless router (a common problem). Hence the demand for 5GHz wireless devices and the motivation for my posting. I'll do my best with the information I have gleaned so far


Anyway, I hope someone finds my comments here and the references below helpful if they decide to choose a monitor for their Mac mini:


Cheers


References:

http://www.ireckon.net/2013/03/force-rgb-mode-in-mac-os-x-to-fix-the-picture-qua lity-of-an-external-monitor

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6316882

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4654055

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5539

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3382

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2998

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5219

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4214

Aug 20, 2014 6:51 AM in response to John Lockwood

thanks. I already knew about the HDTV limitations. I was asking because I am trying to decide on a computer monitor.


FYI my current Samsung Syncmaster LCD monitor is a little dated but has progressive scan, an excellent monitor (pcmag editors choice) and flickers at 60 Hz but looks great at 75 Hz in Windows. If you look at other postings on the discussion groups here you will find others experiencing various monitor problems. Hence the reason for my posting.


FYI, I used to work for the govt., so I know your statement about FCC testing to prevent electrical interference and crosstalk is true in theory but not in practice. Crosstalk by electrical devices happens all the time. I am currently experiencing interference between my 2GHz cordless phone and wireless router (a common problem). Hence the demand for 5GHz wireless devices and the motivation for my posting. I'll do my best with the information I have gleaned so far


Anyway, I hope someone finds my comments here, the two urls I gave above, and the following url helpful when they choose a monitor for their Mac mini: http://www.ireckon.net/2013/03/force-rgb-mode-in-mac-os-x-to-fix-the-picture-qua lity-of-an-external-monitor


Cheers

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