Buy iPhone 6 in US （A1586）

James Merwin wrote:

Who's arguing about it? The fact remains Apple sells "device only" iPhones in the USA which come unlocked. If they do something different in Japan, it's not of much concern to virtually everyone here.

This really depends on what you think about device only phones. I can go into the Apple store right now and purchase a brand new AT&T phone for full price without doing anything to my contract, which would be considered a device only, but it will definitely not be unlocked. While Apple will begin selling unlocked phones in the near future, historically 1-2 months after launch, right now there isn't anything that is not connected with a carrier. The Verizon phone has the GSM side unlocked from a prior FCC ruling, and the other carriers will sell phones without contracts, but they are not considered unlocked.

Your reply is great.

I think you have made it clear. But I still want to affirm it.

Is your meaning that, even after 1-2 months, Apple Store provides the SIM free Iphone 6, it will be A1549 GSM, on the other hand the A1586 will never be sold in Apple Store as a SIM free one?

Thank you.

Just to be sure, could you repeat that question?

Oops!

I mean:

After 1-2 months, when the Apple Store provides SIM free Iphone 6, the model of it should be A1549(GSM).

I still can not buy a SIM free A1586 at Apple Store(US).

Is that right?

Thank you.

No need to think about whether it has a SIM card or not as anyone can remove the card at any time and put a different one in. In fact, it's better to have a card included so you don't have to pay the usual $10 to get one from the carrier.

Instead, the real question is whether the phone is locked. All VZW iPhone 6's bought at full price from a US Apple Store are unlocked. My wife bought a VZW iP6 last week and is using Cricket (ATT subsidiary) service on it right now with no issues.

As for the Sprint model with the peculiar LTE and China-specific bands... I can't say for sure if it's locked or not from Apple but some believe it is. If so, it's the only model where this would be true.

Thank you for your reply.

The Sprint model, however, is the point which I care about. I have a plan to visit China next year.

ALL iPhones purchased at Full Price ( device only ) from Apple is unlocked regardless of carrier... because they are device only, not contract phone... You can buy sprint and use in CHina.

I just bought a full price Verizon iphone 6 straight from apple and it is unlocked, meaning I can snap an att sim card in it and use it right away. Same as ATT, you can use T-Mobile sim card, no problem. And of coz all "device only" or even contract phone at full price are unlocked oversea.

I don't think an ordinary tech guy would have exposure to that kind of information. It is not relevant or important for most American anyway (who do not have the need to travel oversea often or need to have a working iphone oversea). Hence, when people asking this kind of question in this forum, not getting a straight answer is expected. But then, why quite a few of high level experts here be so certain about full price iPhone not being unlocked or locked to carrier? I mean, why not just not answer or tell them such info not available in this forum. Why mislead apple consumer on purpose? I don't get it.

I completely agree with you, maybe the truth is, they are not really experts at all, and just like to make believe like they know. There were two clowns that were "experts" that were arguing with me or basically telling me that my sister's story was made up. It is a proven fact that all verizon iphones are unlocked because of the FCC ruling. I have sprint, when my sister bought her iphone 5s from verizon, I put my sim card in it, and it worked perfectly fine with the lte and everything, then my sister put a tmobile sim and it also worked perfectly fine. And these level 6 and 7, arguing with me telling me that it isn't true. At first I was just like you, thinking why do they mislead people and then I started thinking, they probably don't know what they are talking about and want to impose their beliefs on people, when the truth is, they don't know.

loopingkuma wrote:

ALL iPhones purchased at Full Price ( device only ) from Apple is unlocked regardless of carrier... because they are device only, not contract phone... You can buy sprint and use in CHina.

Flat out Wrong! ALL Sprint phones are locked, regardless of whether you pay full price. Only Sprint can unlock them, if you meet their criteria. ALL Verizon phones have an unlocked SIM section, regardless if you DIDN'T pay full price (by legal agreement for Verizon to get use of certain LTE bands)/

"Why mislead apple consumer on purpose? I don't get it."

No one is misleading you, learn to read.

ALL iPhones purchased at Full Price ( device only ) from Apple is unlocked regardless of carrier

That is absolutely false.

I just bought a full price Verizon iphone 6 straight from apple and it is unlocked

The only reason that's true is because Verizon is PROHIBITED BY LAW from selling new LTE capable devices that are GSM locked. That is NOT the case with any other carrier in the US.

try it yourself, if you pay full price, you will get unlocked version of iphone. (I just bought one myself from apple store, sprint version)

sprint version is best so far, u can use it anywhere in the world, it supports 4 more bands of LTE.

Interesting. I'm wondering if 'device only' iPhones from apple store are differently packaged.. or if the lock snaps into place (or not) only when you activate the phone?

I had exactly the same thing. I wanted to buy the iPhone 6 model A1586 for use in europe. What you need to do is: Go to a apple store and ask them for the iPhone 6 sprint model for the full price. You will get the iPhone without a contract, simcart unlocked and just for the normal price. The iPhone 6 sprint models are all A1586. I did the same and it worked perfectly.

Hello guys....i need some help about this

which network has the better deal......i mean the most cheaper monthly paymants, on 2 year contrat? i just need unliminted talk and text, realy dont need internet data.

and planing to take 2 phones, one for me and one for gf, so can i take one iphone 6 and one htc ? do we get two sim card then? or i can i just get one sim card for me and she allready have a sim card?

and one more, can you please tel me something, i want to buy 2 phones, iphone 6+ from some carriers for 300$ in US, but i wannt to send one to my son in europe in serbia, so please answer me this, if buy some iphone6+(gsm or cdma) from at&t or verizon,or tmobile will it work in serbia? i heard some LTE phones are unloced,in serbia they use regular sim cards, they dont have LTE, i think sim cards are 3G(128k) GSM 900 i 1800MHz