Messages app won't login to Google talk!

Hi,

Good to hear.

Thanks for lettings us know.

9:28 pm Tuesday; April 21, 2015

Thanks, that fixed my problem too! 🙂

I had the same issue when converting to Yosemite with an old Mac Book Pro. As other people in this thread mentioned it ended up being a problem with me having 2 step verification on my google account. Luckily it was easy enough to solve (without getting rid of 2-step verification!). I went to gmail and opened my Account settings (click on your picture in the upper right hand corner, then on the blue My Account button). Then click on Sign In and Security. Scroll down to Password & Sign in Method and under that look for App Passwords. Click on it. It will show you all the Apps you already have passwords for. Click on "Select App" Give it a name (I called mine "Messages") and click Generate. It will provide you with a password that will allow you to log on to Messages without the two step verification. This solved my problem and I have access....hope this helps someone else too!

I'm having problemswiththeemailprogramincludedthe operating system.That is,the application"Mail".Am pretty surethat the error isitmentionedon my picture.Orshould "Mail"function withoutthis error?

Hi,

So what issues are you having with Mail ?

Much earlier than the date mentioned in the Email Google decided not to use SSL any more.

At the time SSL (Secure Socket Layers) was considered to be one of the more secure ways to login in to web sites and severs.

However there was one of those episodes where someone found a flaw that could be exploited.

Most organisations fixed this and moved on but Google started using the OAuth token that the email talks about.

They also allowed people to still use SSL by a setting on your Google account pages for Security and setting "Allow Less Secure App"

Web page logins to the Google Mail server still uses SSL.

The Mail app has also done it for long time irrespective if you set "Allow Less Secure apps" or not.

However the Messages App using a Google ID login has always used SSL and nothing else and has needed "Less Secure apps".

For this reason it is not clear on my system if the Mail app to Google's mail server is using SSL or not.

On the basis that every other Jabber/XMPP server for Messaging using the Jabber protocol uses SSL to login (only Google are different) then I cannot see Apple changing this.

AS that would still only be one app if they did I can't see them changing Mail to use anything other than SSL in Mail (It works with every other server).

That would suggest you will have to enable Less Secure Apps on your Google settings.

Not that I have been looking but I have not seen anything that does state that Google's OAuth certificates are any more secure than the latest SSL ones.

8:25 pm Wednesday; August 10, 2016

Hi.Havenow useda few daystounderstand whyI am having problemswithtoreceived andsendemailusingmygmail accounts.I usemyemailaccounts withgmailon the iPhone andiPadevery day without problems.I hadnoproblems usingmyemailaccounts withgmailon my macbookuntilbefore the summer.Iuse the mailprogramincludedin the operating system,it is calledApple Mail I belive.

AsmentionedI gotproblems usinggmailaccounts on theMacBook (Apple Mail)before the summer.Seethe attachments/photos.After doingsome researchI found out thatthiswas fixedby making thechange "allowless secureapps" in theGoogle-settings. Is this featured here? https://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!msg/gmail/LhWVrYZc_Eo/5EMpldFUC3wJ

If so, whyhave one ofthe most important andmost widely usedprogramfor users of theAppleOS X does notsupport forthisissue?How can I/we/GoogleinfluenceApple tofixthis problem sothat we can have maximum security?What are theconsequences/dangerby usingthe setting "Allowedless secureapplications?

Willallthis problembe avoidedby following the"Mail (El Capitan):Set up asecure connectionfor anaccount"? Please see pictures. Can someone pleasegive me a guide/recipe that isvery easy to understandhow I do thisin casethis couldbe the solution?

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Could notlog on to thisIMAP e-mail account.Make surethat the user nameand password are correct.

Hi,

Only Google use OAuth tokens/Certificates.

That means lots (everyone else) of other mail servers, Messaging app logins, Web Browser logins and so forth do not.

Google are the odd one out here.

Just because Google say OAuth is "better" or more secure does not make it so.

On the other hand sticking to Industry Standards can be a compromise based on the fact the more people use it the more likely other less scrupulous people will try to "break" it.

At any one time one standard will be superseded by an upgrade.

Google brought OAuth to the table at a point when this happened to SSL.

9:31 pm Wednesday; August 10, 2016

Exactly. I am trying to use mac messages for the first time (Yosemite). Even though google is well and truly embedded in my computer I had a similar issue when trying to add Hotmail to my Mac Mail ...FINALLY I found this never spoken of concept of creating an app specific password for it ...hotmail works just fine ...so will try that with talk.google.com ...it doesn't want just my google password. Cheers xoxo

Hi,

Apple Mail and Messages attempt to login using the SSL Protocol.

Google have deemed this "Less Secure" and have been issuing there own Auth Certificates for some time.

To use Mail and Messages you have to go to the Google site and your Account settings and set "Less Secure apps"

If you have also set up @ Step Verification at Google you will need to use that password in Messages.

1:56 pm Saturday; October 29, 2016

I am able to login, but unable to send messages after upgrading to High Sierra.