iOS 8 camera roll is missing!!!

JoaoCesar wrote:

Apple is dying without Steve Jobs...

Um, no, not really. Instead of throwing a tantrum, submit your feedback to Apple. Or, go buy a phone that better meets your needs. iPhones have tend to have very high resale value.

I have spent days trying to get around this problem. Here is why it's such a bummer, as well as the dozens of other little things Apple seems to be getting wrong and wracking havok in their ecosystem. I bought a Mac Book Pro recently I am I overall very happy with the quality of the computer build thanks to maybe the last genius mind left at Apple, though Apple has been increasingly making questionable choices with their software. I don't like how a lot of things seem to be stuck in half-assed beta which is really not why I pay a premium for their products. I really see where they are going with a lot of things, but it feels like they got their fingers in too many pies.

Anyways onto the main topic:

1) Moments is entirely useless and confusing because it mixes all the stuff you download from other people, emails and whatsapp it is unable to seperate things in a way thats meaningful. What I end up getting is a confusing mess of albums that are sorted by location, date and a general confusing chaos that would be just better off if it was just sorted by DATE. Let's face it guys unless you are like those "cool" people in adverts going across 10 different locations everyday around the world the location thing is pretty useless, most of us go to the same bars, coffee shops, offices, places every week every month, plus the fact that the locations is entirely inaccurate, only vaguely recognising where you are. ALSO it's UNABLE to relate pictures that are similiar, thus if you take photos on a night out which MOST PEOPLE DO, it splits the event exactly at 12:00am into the NEXT DAY. On top of that it is UNABLE to MATCH photos other people send you of the same event, so if they send you the photos a few days after, those RELATED photos get put into an UNRELATED moment.

^ and also you have to navigate two totally unnecessary screens to get to moments, two unnecessary screens which is seperated by year and location, again MAYBE this would be good if you live the life of a rockstar, but for most of us this is just selfies, shoddy family photos at home, some pictures with friends, cat pictures, spam from whatsapp.

2) Whats the point of iCloud? I am not getting it. I paid for more space thinking it would put my photos up there, saving space on my iphone 5s. Instead it doesn't function anywhere near as good as dropbox. I don't see it centralising my photos between my computer and my phone, which seems to be common sense. In fact the only thing I seem to be able to do with icloud is to share photos on it? A function that I can do by uploading photos to facebook...

I can't access my photos on icloud via the browser, I can't do it on my phone. Whe I sync my phone it just downloads the photos onto my phone taking up SPACE, which i PAID icloud to have, so I have no idea what the extra space on icloud is for. Apart from that everything icloud can do, plugging a USB cable into my mac can do BETTER. so WHAT IS iCloud? Somebody explain this contraption to me, because since day1 I haven't been getting it. I had thought it would be a natural backup system to save space on your computer and synchronise data like photos across all devices, well thats a "cloud" right? If it can't even store my photos and let it access it from my phone, what is it for? Isn't dropbox 2000X Better then?

3) The camera roll thing is exactly like the music app. People want to be able to organise their photos and music their way, they don't want a predetermined way to do it. Like why isn't there a way for me to easily delete spam from whats app? why isn't there an easy way for me to do anything? I have to click 5 times just to get to a photo to be able to crop/rotate it. People want the camera roll back not because its amazing or genius, its just SIMPLE. Look at all your photos by DATE, ok it was bad in the fact it showed all the spam from other people too, but at the very least you got the photos you want very fast by just scrolling, and then they remove this and replace it with something that now shows deleted photos you don't want other people to see as well...great, photos also disappear for no reason. And then on top of this iCloud does NOTHING to make the photostream or any stream appear on your phone?

^ So Whats the point of this whole redesign? I might as well just arrange albums and sync it with my iphone, since my phone has to download it from the computer anyways and can't "stream" from the icloud" if icloud can't stream photos like a camera roll, then why is my phone wasting battery connecting to it? to upload? to download photos and create that moments mess - well it doesn't even do that since moments only run from the photos downloaded onto your phone and taking space

4) Photos are big now, and icloud is supposed to save space not waste it. Most phones don't have that much space, especially apple phones with no expansion capabilities. Which creates the next question - why isn't there a way to access the icloud easily on your phone like dropbox???????????

Anyways I think i've outlined CLEARLY why people are unhappy, I think a lot of this is COMMON SENSE, it doesn't give me much hope with continuity, seeing how bad Siri and a bunch of other things have been misses. I hope apple gets out of beta mode and into release mode some point next year.

Sorry for using caps, its just a style i've adopted over time to make my stuff more readable. Also I think I am being entirely reasonable. I am apple everything since 2000s. This is just latest in a long line of stints thats been slowly eroding my and a lot of other people's brand loyalty.

Raidiant wrote:

On top of that it is UNABLE to MATCH photos other people send you of the same event, so if they send you the photos a few days after, those RELATED photos get put into an UNRELATED moment. Sorry - not understanding your point here. Can you explain how this is different than the previous way in which photos worked? And if you want related photos to be in the same place, why don't you set up Albums to do this?

2) Whats the point of iCloud? I am not getting it. I paid for more space thinking it would put my photos up there, saving space on my iphone 5s. Instead it doesn't function anywhere near as good as dropbox. I don't see it centralising my photos between my computer and my phone, which seems to be common sense. In fact the only thing I seem to be able to do with icloud is to share photos on it? A function that I can do by uploading photos to facebook... That is correct. Right now, iCloud serves two purposes in terms of photos: 1 - as a place to store backups of your device and the photos on it, so if you need to restore to a backup, you will be able to recover any photos in your Camera Roll, and 30 days of Photos in your Photo Stream, 2 - as a place where Photo Stream resides so that photos taken with cameras on devices that share the same Apple ID can be shared with eachother. iCloud Drive will be the new place where photos will be stored (a Dropbox type environment). But that is still in development, and won't be available until some time after Yosemite is introduced. It will be replacing iPhoto and Aperture as the place where your Photo Library is stored.

I can't access my photos on icloud via the browser, I can't do it on my phone. Whe I sync my phone it just downloads the photos onto my phone taking up SPACE You apparently don't understand how the Sync process works. When you hook your device up to iTunes on the computer you sync with, you click on the Photos tab in the device profile screen, and you select which photos you want on your device from your Photo library in iPhoto or your photos app on your computer. If you select a single album or event that has 5 photos in it, then only 5 photos will be sync'd to your device. The only other photos which will remain are Photo Stream photos. If you don't want more than 30 days of Photo Stream photos on your device, switch it off and then back on again, and only the last 30 days will be downloaded to your device.

, which i PAID icloud to have You PAID iCloud to store your iOS backups. What you are paying for on iCloud is clearly spelled out on the iCloud Support page: iCloud: iCloud storage and backup overview, so I have no idea what the extra space on icloud is for. Apart from that everything icloud can do, plugging a USB cable into my mac can do BETTER. so WHAT IS iCloud? Somebody explain this contraption to me, because since day1 I haven't been getting it. It is a place to store up to 3 backups of your iOS devices that are signed onto the same iCloud account. These backups allow you to restore a device to that backup if needed.

I had thought it would be a natural backup system to save space on your computer it is a backup system for iOS devices - backup for restoring. and synchronise data like photos across all devices It does syncronize photos across all devices., well thats a "cloud" right? If it can't even store my photos and let it access it from my phone, what is it for? Isn't dropbox 2000X Better then?

And then on top of this iCloud does NOTHING to make the photostream or any stream appear on your phone? iCloud will sync Photo Stream to any device or computer that is signed onto the same iCloud account.

^ So Whats the point of this whole redesign? I might as well just arrange albums and sync it with my iphone, since my phone has to download it from the computer anyways and can't "stream" from the icloud" if icloud can't stream photos like a camera roll, Photos taken on any device go to the old Camera Roll (now Recently Added) and to Photo Stream....

4) Photos are big now, and icloud is supposed to save space not waste it. Most phones don't have that much space, especially apple phones with no expansion capabilities. Which creates the next question - why isn't there a way to access the icloud easily on your phone like dropbox??????????? Again, if you need to free up space on your phone by removing photos, you should be importing them to your computer, then syncing back only those photos you want on your device. Once the new Photo App is developed and released, you will be able to do this to iCloud Drive instead of to your computer if you wish.

Not User Friendaly..

Did I say the the actual files where missing? No, as I stated,"my About section in settings lists over 1300 stored on the device under Photos." I said that the new Photos app was not displaying the photo files and was leaving out a lot of pictures that were viewable before the addition of Recently Added and the axing of the Camera Roll. Individuals who do not backup their data are ignorant fools, but it is more foolish to assume that someone "refuses" to backup their data. BTW, now that 8.1 has brought Camera Roll back...the files have returned and backups continue to be made now as they were being made 6 years ago 😉.