TV Show Art / Thumbnails Missing On IOS 8

Gear: iPad Mini, 1st Gen, iPad Air 3rd Gen, iPhone 5S all upgraded to IOS 8.


ITunes 11.4 on iMac.


I have ripped TV shows with metadata and art that show fine in iTunes and worked fine on IOS 7 and iTunes 11.3 and before.


Now after syncing I have TV shows with just a grey square where the art would show on ALL my iDevices. I've done the following to troubleshoot the issue:


1. Removed the TV Shows from iTunes. Rebooted the iMac and re-imported the TV shows back to iTunes. Art and metadata show fine in iTunes, but upon sync to any of my iDevices the shows copy over fine but without the art. Each of my iDevices has its own iTunes library.


2. I've rebooted my iDevices and I've erased all content from my iPhone and did a fresh setup with a fresh iTunes library, yet the art/thumbnails don't copy over to the device.


3. I ripped a brand new TV Show that had never been in my library and that too, did not copy over the show art, but it does show in iTunes.


I'm not sure if this is an IOS 8 problem specifically but I'm leaning towards that. It may also be a an iTunes 11.4 issue. Nevertheless the shows do play but it's just annoying that the show art isn't showing on any devices.


If you've got a remedy I haven't done in steps 1-3 above please let me know.


Thanks.

iMac (27-inch, Late 2012), OS X Mavericks (10.9.1)

Posted on Sep 19, 2014 8:42 AM

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Nov 5, 2014 12:28 AM in response to markmc78

Is that 999x704 size in pixels, mm, or ins?. The artwork thumbnail doesn't appear to be consistent; some TV shows are at least showing the thumbnail (but not each episode) and some do not. Home and music videos are ok. Movies are definitely not showing. A real hit and miss situation. Very frustrating when you think that this should be a minor problem and would not require heavy coding to fix!

Nov 6, 2014 11:04 PM in response to BigNavy505

Hey guys!


I just saw that the app I use to convert my files (Smart Converter Pro 2) just got updated, and takes into account that issue. I now have for the newly converted files thumbnails appearing on my iOS devices, both running iOS8.1. However, there are a couple of glitches in the app itself, the update has made it crash a couple times on Yosemite, and there is only one thumbnail in the metadata, which means that the thumbnails are not as good looking on iTunes that they are on iPad or iPhone. Again, this app just gathers the general metadata, to only shows' thumbnails are displayed, and there is still nothing on an episode basis, which still bothers me.

Nov 7, 2014 2:01 AM in response to cedlavarde

I don't think any conversion software will sort the issue of showing thumbnails for each episode as these were previously generated in IOS by scanning into the file. That's the bit that isn't happening and needs a change in IOS. I suspect eventually that will get fixed but whether or not Apple will relax the specification back to where it was in IOS 7 regarding the main thumbnail is another matter.

Nov 7, 2014 2:45 AM in response to BigNavy505

This is a really annoying issue.


I guess I understand if there are potential legal issues with TV shows and movies, but I really don't understand the limitations with Home Movies.


I make a monthly home movie of the kids and have made a DVD style cover for each as I give the DVD version to grandparents and have my copy on iTunes. Now all the artwork I have created (70 movies) won't show on my iPhone or iPad! It just seems crazy that apple would restrict something like this!


If I change my Hone Movies to Movies, the artworks shows fine, but I like having them separate from my main movie collection!


Please sort this out Apple!

Nov 7, 2014 2:22 PM in response to mas16sept

I thought I'd give everyone an update. Once I see a problem like this and it becomes obvious that the user to user forums don't yield any results then I actually contact apple. So I did, about a week ago, if you just want apple's response go straight to bold letters:

It started as a chat, which turned into a support phone call the next day. None of them realized this was going on so when I told them they tried it on their devices and learned this was happening. After a few tech transfer to what I guess is a more experienced tech, they said they would reach out to "the engineers" and get back to me. The guy that told me said he thought it was simply apple dropping support for any size and that it doesn't happen to media purchased from itunes. He said he would tell them, but to not hold my breath. A few days later he called me back and said it's not what he thought. That apple is aware that it's a bug and that they'll release a fix as soon as they figure it out. When? nobody knows, but he assured that they push it out when they figure it out and fix it.

My suggestion is actually submitting feedback. These user to user forums are great if someone has a solution. In this case all our solutions are only fixing half the problem. Personally I've been using metax for windows for more than a year now and it works great, it retrieves the art itunes uses for movies and shows. It does not however pull screenshots or thumbnails. But I'll continue to use for now anyway.

Judging by the comments of the tech that submitted to the "engineers" it's possible apple knew they would no longer support all types of artwork sizes/shapes, but what they didn't realize is that the screenshots were not being generated for any media type anymore in any part of the videos app, including home videos. In fact, I'm inclined to believe that if the home videos were not having this problem they would have just said: too bad! but obviously this is all speculation. What's not speculation is that speaking up is not ignored, but we must speak up to them so that they are aware there is a dissatisfaction (camera roll being a perfect example).

That being said, I recommend everyone here who would like to see this fixed submit the feedback and let them know. It only takes a minute, and if nothing else, at least it lets them know that it isn't just some guy who chatted one night that has noticed the problem. You can submit the bug here:

https://www.apple.com/feedback/ipad.html. Or you can submit it in a different part if you don't think the ipad is right, but just submit it someplace. it would probably take less time to submit the feedback than to rant and rewrite every detail on how you're also "having the same problem", tell them. Here just can just write "+1" and we'll get it. It's all the same.

In the mean time you can either "create" fake screenshots for your home videos by taking a screenshot of it and adding it as artwork (metax does this) and make sure they screenshot is the right shape. You can determine this by looking at the shape of the square gray boxes. Otherwise if you'd like artwork for your movies and tv shows metaX also does this, automatically. There doesn't seem to be any solution at this time for the individual episode screenshots. For that, we'll just have to wait.

incidentally, I put a bug in the ear of the great mac app subler. Currently the app adds screenshots (on a separate track that it creates and adds into the mp4 container) for all the chapters in video. I mentioned the possibility of recreating this effect for episode screenshots, and not just for movie chapters. We'll see what happens. If he can also figure that out then perhaps we won't need to wait for apple to fix he problem.

Thanks for your attention, and thanks to everyone that has provided useful feedback, we now know the main issue which gives apple a target.

AR

Nov 7, 2014 3:32 PM in response to Arielreyes001

Thank you Arielreyes001,

You've given some good advice here and some excellent information based on your chat with Apple. I have been following this thread since the beginning and a few people have also suggested we leave feedback direct to Apple. I know, for one, that I have done this.

Do you think apple are aware of the bug (especially in relation to the individual episode artwork) because people have left feedback? Will a bombardment of feedback mean that they get on to this quicker? I would be happy to leave the same feedback each and everyday if it helps this case.

Also, you said something about certain size artworks not being supported any more, is this a blanket rule that will not change and regardless, everyone who wants season artwork (not individual episode artwork) to show, will definitely have to change their library over?

Nov 9, 2014 12:15 PM in response to Ed Rempalski

I asked the developer of iFlicks if he was aware of this issue, and sent him a link to this thread. Here's the resulting conversation between him and me:


Him: yes. the next beta will make all tv show artwork square to circumvent this iOS 8 problem.


Me: But all my artwork is already square.


Him: then it should show up in iOS 8. For the episode artwork I am not aware of any workarounds as of yet.


Me: Sorry, yes, my show artwork is fine. It’s the thumbnail for each episode (usually a screen grab from the video, I think) that just shows as a grey box. I’m assuming it’s iOS that creates the screen grab for each episode?


Him: I am actually not sure about that, somehow it doesn't seem to work with iOS 8 anymore and the iTunes store files do not show any hints why it is different there.

Nov 18, 2014 6:37 AM in response to JenW_309

Hi JenW_309,

Sorry for my delayed response.

Do you think apple are aware of the bug (especially in relation to the individual episode artwork) because people have left feedback? I do believe that apple is aware of the bug, i believe that partly because when the tech called me back regarding this issue he implied that they were already looking into it when he reached out to them. So even though the techs from support I spoke to, none of them knew about it, it seems "engineering" did. Will a bombardment of feedback mean that they get on to this quicker? The hard part however is determining whether or not the feedback was key. Certainly the camera roll situation seems to be an instance pointing in that direction. Although we can't know for certain that Apple wasn't going to bring it back anyway, it seems unlikely. Everything points to user feedback and social media coverage played a huge role in it. This is what I choose to believe. Benefit of the doubt: the masses spoke, and Apple listened.

Also, you said something about certain size artworks not being supported any more, is this a blanket rule that will not change and regardless, everyone who wants season artwork (not individual episode artwork) to show, will definitely have to change their library over? That comment is not a blanket rule. it's an assumption based on two factors: 1- the only artwork that works as of right now is the one shaped like the gray boxes. 2-Apple would rather see us buy their content than add our own. That's not to say that they won't correct the current bug which currently doesn't supply a screenshot to ANY video, including one labeled "home videos". But knowing the controlling nature of Apple it wouldn't surprise me if factor two caused them not to fix the screenshot problem in Movies and TV Shows. Why do I think this? Every tech I spoke to said it only happens to our own imported content so it's likely not a bug (of course, this was made before they discovered it really was). The fact that, when the tech called me, he said "it's not what i thought it was" tells me that those original comments were likely wrong, but it doesn't mean that they will fix it.

I know I didn't really answer anything definitely, but I do plan on emailing the tech who I was dealing with since I have his email to see if he's got any other comments or updates regarding the situation, and also to ask him some of these same questions. I'll let you know what he responds!

AR

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