You can make a difference in the Apple Support Community!

When you sign up with your Apple Account, you can provide valuable feedback to other community members by upvoting helpful replies and User Tips.

Looks like no one’s replied in a while. To start the conversation again, simply ask a new question.

iPad 2 keeps crashing rebooting after ios 8 update

Since updating my iPad 2 to ios 8 I have had numerous problems with it, first thing that happened was the accesscibility features came on and would'nt turn off, had to attach to my mac and disable them in itunes, also while this was occuring the ipad 2 kept randomly rebooting, this is still occuring, I have so far done a soft reset and a hard reset, I've done a restore, I've updated to ios 8.2 and still the same things happening, this is starting to get very annoying.


iPad 2 was working fine until this update . . please can anyone assist . . .

Posted on Oct 1, 2014 2:38 AM

Reply
320 replies

Nov 25, 2014 6:56 AM in response to VinceCharming

Apple have now responded to my latest email, informing me that they need the crash logs again from this update to better determine whether it is a hardware or software issue "The previous logs didn't show anything wrong on the device." so they now need fresh logs from this update to see what they say, though from the conversation I just had with the EMIA it sounds like they are now again going to be angling it towards a hardware fault again.


This surprises me a bit, surely if the logs I sent them first could find no hardware issues, what will have changed between the last update and this one to suddenly cause the logs to say its a hardware fault . . . lets wait and see . . .

Nov 25, 2014 3:37 PM in response to totohex

Yeah, that's what I did a few days ago to prevent the crashing issue. In my earlier post I mentioned locking the screen rotation in Settings.


"In Settings > General > Side Switch make sure you select Lock Rotation and lock the screen rotation on the side of your device. I'm guessing that the new OS isn't compatible with the internal gyroscope on "older" devices thus it crashes. Hope this works for you guys!"


It's a temporary self-fix until Apple updated the OS but at least it's not crashing now.

Nov 25, 2014 9:28 PM in response to Jibtrim

I had major problems after update to 8 on iPad 2...most were due to frequent freezes and need to reboot, all sorts of problems with attempting to use Safari, email weirdness, and inability to cc/paste correct information. Anyway, as I was essentially using iPad as a mouse pad for macbook, decided to update to 8.1.1 and for about a day thought it had fixed Safari issues. Wrong. On any site the page will suddenly be gone and the message comes up about "...problem with website and it has been reloaded." Extremely frustrating to be in middle of reading, project, etc., and there goes the site! The email is more stable and I can cc/paste since 8.1.1, but I didn't buy an iPad to use only as email source.


As I've said before on this forum, I appreciate the "fixes" people take time to post in trying to help those having problems, but I don't expect to spend hours of my time attempting to make it work, particularly since 8.1.1 was supposed to fix IOS 8 specifically in relation to iPad 2. What other major consumer product is sold where the buyer is expected to put up with this you-know-what?!

Nov 27, 2014 8:24 AM in response to VinceCharming

Just had my latest call with Apple and they keep changing their tune :


First they tell me they need the logs to see if its a hardware or software issue


Next they tell me the logs showed not hardware issue's and the ios Update would resolve my software issue


When this doesn't work :


They then tell me they need the crash logs again to see if its a hardware issue


Today they tell me its not a software issue and the logs can't tell them whether its a hardware issue . .


Now wait a minute didn't they already tell me that the crash logs would identify if it was a hardware or a software issue, so now they are back peddling a bit me thinks and are now saying that it will need to be repaired, but wait a minute how can I get it repaired if Apple can't identify the issue, there answer is I pay for them to repair it, they then identify what the hardware issue by taking the iPad apart and then they charge me for the repair.


Hey that's an idea . . pay them to repair a fault that they cant identify, but first pay them to identify it and then pay them to repair it . . .


Before I consider what to do next, I shall firstly be asking for all relevant logs relating to my incident and any information provided by their engineers regarding the issue and then shall decide on the next cause of action i.e. Visit Apple and give them more cash/ Visit an external Repair Shop and give them cash instead


However before I do either of those I think its time I sent my iPad to an independent Apple repair workshop and see if there is any accidental damage and if not see what recourse under the Sales of Goods act I have.


Good luck to everyone else on here who's still having issues with their iPads/iPhones etc but I don't hold out much hope for you if my experience is anything to go by . . .

Nov 27, 2014 3:25 PM in response to VinceCharming

I've had a stable iPad now for 5 weeks. (iPad 3 / IOS 8.1 & 8.1.1)
I used to QA & software test 50 different phones and numerous apps for major transport companies and banks.
(the programmers used to hate me for finding random bugs) :-)

I've just finished developing an app for the iPad (which means lots of user testing) and have been using the iPad for live performances.

what did i do?

My noticeable crash reboots happened twice with iMessage (messages coming in) and once with DropBox (data transfer).

So I went into the system and did a blanket switch off of ALL comms with the outside world.

I.E. location services, app auto updates etc. Anything that will try to force communication over wi-fi.

I turned off iMessage (I have it on my iPhone and Mac so don't need it).

I also went into the diagnostics crash reports and any apps listed I deleted
(I didn't need them - they were third party apps - just in case they were attempting erroneous illegal code jumps).

But I used iTunes to upgrade the IOS each time instead of Wi-Fi (probably doesn't make a difference).

I still use Wi-fi to update apps and Dropbox to transfer data with no problems so far.

It isn't hardware related. It's coding related - bugs not caught by Apple engineers or their QA teams as these issues are so obscure.

Apple Genius is just a mouth piece - they won't have a clue, its not their job.

We need to be speaking to their QA / testing team but they don't allow direct communication via the Apple Stores thus the frustration.

They also told me they never check the forums.

It's also really not about hardware redundancy (as this is happening with various devices) but obscure bugs that slip through the net with IOS 8.0

So its either 3rd party apps or their own code tripping things up.

Nov 28, 2014 3:23 AM in response to earthacademy

I've just this minute got off the phone with the Apple EMIA Rep who has indeed confirmed what the Senior Technical Specialist told me yesterday, "Its a hardware fault" which was identified from the panic logs by the engineers (or words to that effect).


Unfortunately they can not or will not provide me with any further information, I've asked what the hardware fault was, but they won't tell me, they just tell me that a hardware fault/failure was identified in the panic logs and that's it, oh wait they did say I could take it into an Apple store to be repaired though, so they can't tell me what the fault is, but they can tell me to get it repaired by them.


Surely they must provide further/more information than "Its a hardware fault" for me to be able to make an informed decision as what I do next :


If your car suddenly stopped working and a garage told you it was an fault in the engine, but wouldn't tell you what the fault was, but said they could repair it, would you not yourself want to know what the fault was ?


Would you just pay for them to fix it without knowing what was wrong with it, what was at fault ?


I'm sure you wouldn't, you'd ask the same question's I have :


What hardware fault was identified ? and you'd most likely get an answer.


Unfortunately the Apple EMIA and Senior Technical Specialist can not provide me with an answer


This is either because they don't know what the fault is and are unwilling to ask the engineers themselves


They are not allowed to tell me the End User of the product that the logs were taken from


So why are Apple not providing me with this information, its a fairly simple request,


What Hardware fault did the engineers identify from the Panic Logs ?


I've now emailed Mark Rogers Apples UK Managing Director firstly thanking him for providing me with the EMIA Rep contacts and secondly to ask him why I can not be provided with an answer to this simple question.

Dec 1, 2014 7:40 AM in response to VinceCharming

Since my last post, I've now had 2 missed calls from the EMIA wishing to discuss my email about "What is the Hardware fault the engineers have identified?" which thus far they refuse or can't tell me, each time he's left a message asking me to either ring him back or let him know when I'm available.


On both occasions I've sent emails explaining that I'm at work and it would be best to discuss via email or given him notice that I will be at my desk/DDI for a set period of time if he wishes to call me . . . still waiting for the call or even an email response from him . .

Dec 2, 2014 3:29 AM in response to VinceCharming

Well had another missed call from the EMIA at Apple UK in Ireland asking me to either contact them or let them know when they can call me back, had three of these call’s now and on each occasion have emailed him to let him know that I am either back at my desk for a period of time and he can contact me on my DDI or he can email me a response to my questions :

What hardware fault did the Apple Engineers identify from the crash/panic logs ?

But as is the case with all the previously sent email’s, I've yet to get a response, today’s call told me that Apple had not changed their position, which I presume to mean that it’s a Hardware fault and they are not covering it, ok that’s fine and dandy, but they are still not providing me with exactly what the hardware fault is . .

Why is it so hard for Apple to tell me what exactly the hardware fault is, they say they've identified a hardware fault from the crash/panic logs, but are refusing to tell me what it is, just want me to go to an Apple store to get it repaired . . well tell me what the fault is and I might just go and get it repaired if its cost viable . . .

What are Apple so worried/scared/concerned about that they won’t answer that simple question . . ?

Dec 2, 2014 5:45 AM in response to VinceCharming

It probably doesn't help you, but I must say respect for you Vince fighting with so much energy and determination against corporate arrogance. I think we see how a firm of which we all buy their funcky products for decades is nowerdays only committed to the brand and not to their products anymore. And certainly not to the people who use the product.

For consumers like us, it is almost impossible to even just get in touch with people who can help you with an obvious problem. They hide behind their procedures and legal walls. In the Netherlands we have organizations representing consumer interests.

I hope you will succeed to get in touch with someone who will and can solve the problem. Otherwise you do nothing else than: 'Think different'.

Dec 2, 2014 6:03 AM in response to RudeboiNL

Thanks for the words, much appreciated and totally in agreement with what you've said.


I'm definitely experiencing the arrogance of Apple, as they have still not replied to this mornings email that I sent them in response to the voice mail message they left me at approx 9:30am this morning.


Also just sent the following email in the hope that this will at least facilitate a response from them


Shane,


Is there any reason that you or Apple are choosing not to respond to any of the emails I've sent you ?


I will have to presume that you are choosing to either ignore them or Apple are refusing to answer my simple question, please could you have the decency to let me know which it is ?


regards



Vincent Elgey


Its not like I'm expecting them to repair/replace my product (unless it is indeed a problem caused by Apple, in which case I expect them to abide by the law in relation to the Sales of Goods Act 1979), all I want them to do is provide me with a reasonable answer to a reasonable yet simple question, that apparently they have, otherwise how can they say it's a hardware fault . . .


Unfortunately for Apple they are unwilling to do this and in this case I refuse to kau tau to them, as a customer surely I have the right to know what hardware fault they have identified with my product.


They've awoken a sleeping tiger

Dec 2, 2014 7:00 AM in response to VinceCharming

Actually I think you should start a blog about it, to give your problem more exposure. Certainly you're not the only one but it is a well documented story in so far. I am not for new revolutions, or I am, if we can do something against planned obsolescence. It is very old school not to worry about the interests of the people and not to invest in sustainable products and relations. SJ fulminates against Big Blue, Apple is now far beyond what IBM ever was....

Dec 2, 2014 7:15 AM in response to RudeboiNL

Way ahead of you on that one, already posting to my blog's, to my Tumblr, to my Facebook, to my Twitter accounts, its my second most read post on the blog this year, quite interesting looking at the stats to see how people are discovering the post and from what countries.


Also searching Twitter for other people who are having similar issues with iOS8 or Apple in general to see how they are dealing with it.


Next port of call if Apple continue to ignore my requests for informationwill most likely be local TV, we have an excellent consumer protection programme called "Watch Dog" on the BBC, sure they'll enjoy Anne Robinson grilling them on the failure of iOS8 on National TV

iPad 2 keeps crashing rebooting after ios 8 update

Welcome to Apple Support Community
A forum where Apple customers help each other with their products. Get started with your Apple Account.