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Podcasts no longer auto-downloading under iOS8

Sometime around iOS6, Apple changed the behaviour of the Podcasts app. Instead of having to open the app to check for new episodes it would, if suitably configured, download new episodes in the background.


iOS8 seems to have broken this feature. Since upgrading my 4S, Podcasts will notify me (via the badge) that new episodes are available but will not begin to download them until the app itself is launched. All of my settings are as you would expect; automatic downloads are on, downloads over 3G are on just in case I lose WiFi, check time is 1 hour, Background App Refresh is enabled. But after an arbitrary time running in the background the Podcasts app will just stop fetching new episodes, until it's launched again.


I used to be able to go to work in the morning safe in the knowledge that my new episodes were downloaded and waiting to be played. Now I have to remember to launch the Podcasts app at least five minutes before I leave the house, to be certain of downloading anything that was updated during the night. This is a huge step backwards.


The behaviour can be mitigated to a certain extent by making sure Podcasts is the last app to be launched before putting the iPhone to sleep at night. But it's still no guarantee, because the app's background processes still seem to die after a couple of hours. I see similar behaviour on my 4th generation iPad but anecdotal evidence so far suggests that the Podcasts app is not being shut down as frequently on the iPad as on the 4S. All of which suggests it's a resource issue, the iPad having more RAM and more efficient hardware than the 4S.


Reading some developer blogs there is vague information about a new feature in iOS8 that automatically kills "battery hungry" apps. But of course Apple are notoriously tight-lipped about the inner workings of their operating systems and so far I've not managed to find any information on how this feature operates, what its criteria might be for determining what constitutes a "battery hungry" app, or even whether it actually got implemented. What's interesting is that, looking in the new Battery Usage page of iOS8 on the 4S, Podcasts is nearly always at the top of that list with up to 44% usage in a given period. But this is hardly surprising as I listen to podcasts most of the working day with the phone in Airplane Mode.


Might this new iOS8 feature be so aggressively determined to kill hungry processes that it's crippling Apple's own built-in app's ability to do background downloads? I'm not a developer, so I don't have access to logs or any other useful debugging tools and this is a guess based on pure gut and experience. But something definitely seems to have changed in iOS8 and if Apple did introduce a battery-saving feature that kills background processes then it will be a staggering coincidence if the two things are unrelated.

If anyone else has seen this behaviour can you please add a comment with any ideas or interpretations you might have, or at least click the "I have this problem too" button. I intend to contact Apple directly (or as directly as is possible with Apple) and it would be nice to be able to point to a group of people with similar issues rather than just my lone voice in the wilderness.

Posted on Oct 7, 2014 12:47 AM

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Feb 14, 2015 5:27 AM in response to denali_uk

I can't predict whether they download automatically or not. Sometimes they do, more often they don't.


Since I expect at least one podcast daily, every I will check and download those that are missing. But with earlier versions of iTunes, I didn't have to do this.


Has anybody ever liked any iTunes upgrade better than what it replaces? Or as well?

Feb 15, 2015 12:29 PM in response to denali_uk

With iOS 8.1.3 , my downloads are working fine on schedule, and when I do the pull down action on the screen, it checks for new downloads and the download icon shows 1+ downloads are in progress.


Some things to check:

What is the default and per podcast refresh frequency setting? the default is every 6 hours.

Is background refresh on?

Are you downloads limited to using WiFi or can they use cellular data? How about the same settings for background refresh?


For my iPad , it can only background refresh and download on WiFi.

For my iPhone, background refresh is off, but podcast downloads can use cellular and WiFi data connections.


I can't say that changing this will fix your problem, but it's work checking.

Apr 29, 2015 10:42 AM in response to denali_uk

Same issue for me. I do not have "download on cellular data" checked, but I shouldn't need to. My iPhone is always connected to Wifi while at home and at work. I can't have it randomly downloading podcasts over the cellular network as AT+T charges me an arm and a leg for extra data.


I even bought the pocket casts app which says they have automatic downloading as well. Same issue.


Really hoping they fix this issue soon, this is a huge bummer for a former Android user that always had his podcasts waiting for him in the morning for the way to work 😟

Jul 13, 2015 10:29 PM in response to denali_uk

I'd actually forgotten starting this thread, but FWIW I've not had this issue since upgrading to the iPhone 6 from the 4S a few months ago. This may be because of a fix in one of the incremental iOS updates (I'm on 8.4 having used all versions in between) but I suspect it's more likely to be because the iPhone 6 has more resources (CPU, battery, RAM) than the 4S and is not tripping iOS' battery saving features as frequently. I've had one or two failed podcast downloads but in those cases I was on the move and I suspect it was caused by my moving from WiFi coverage to cellular and the handover not going smoothly. Otherwise it's been perfect.


My wife is using my old 4S and doesn't listen to podcasts, but if I can find time to experiment I'll copy my current configuration onto her phone and see if it behaves correctly. If it does then I'll assume Apple have fixed this problem. If it doesn't, then it looks as though the only solution -- as with many Apple problems -- may be to upgrade the hardware. 😟

Podcasts no longer auto-downloading under iOS8

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