Anyone else getting getting OS X Server 3.2.2 can't be installed because Yosemite "too new?"

First line of the Server 3.2.2 description: Profile manager support for new features in iOS 8 and OS X Yosemite...


Yet won't install in Yosemite, despite being released after release of Yosemite.


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Posted on Oct 16, 2014 5:31 PM

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Oct 18, 2014 6:08 AM in response to Biker09

I think actually you are all missing the point that version 3.2.2 is the Server app for Mavericks, This does not entitle you to the Server App for Yosemite as this is not the one you paid for, as you paid for Server app for MAVERICKS.


If $20 is to much stay then with Mavericks then and update to version 3.2.2.


Just because the overall functionality of the two server app are similar does not mean you get both for the price of one. That is like saying I just because I bought a 1994 Ford Pickup means I get all subsequent Ford Pickups for free as I already paid for the thing and all subsequence models have all the same functions, therefore I should get it for free, That is naturally absurd as Apple can price their own Apps however they want - and we get a lot of Apps for free, so this is really a silly thing to get upset over.


So, it seems to me that everyone that is so upset about this is because they did not understand what they were doing (yes, Apple is a bit at fault because of timing and presentation) and are not willing to admit they made a mistake.


I nearly did the same thing. I paid the $20 as I am not a developer and moved on.

Oct 18, 2014 2:04 PM in response to John Wolff

I'm very frustrated with Apple because I had a version of OS X Server (3.2.1) which was running happily, which now cannot run after upgrading that machine to Yosemite. I had no idea this would happen, no dialog/warning whatsoever.


My Server installation being functional is far more important to me than having the box running Yosemite, but now I've got to either spend $20 to buy Server 4.0 or spend a couple of hours rolling back the machine to OS X 10.9.5. I'd roll everything back, but now all of the iWork and iLife applications have also been upgraded and then I'd have to roll all of those back as well.


Apple did a very poor job notifying users that their Server installation would break upon installing Yosemite..

Oct 18, 2014 2:44 PM in response to Kraftwerk

I think you are still missing the point of Biker09's post. I also had the same issue being described, where once I updated one of my machines to Yosemite, Server 3.2.2 is no longer in my purchase history to be able to download again. I even found a link to Server 3.2.2 in the iTunes store (you can't find it when you search) and it shows that it would cost me $19.99 to download it again. So with the Yosemite update Apple is removing the entitlement to Server 3.2.2 from our accounts with the expectation that we will pay the $20 upgrade to go to 4.0. But since 3.2.2 can manage Yosemite clients, and the 10.10 updates are more focused on desktop users and not servers, I see no reason that I shouldn't just stick with Mavericks on my server and run 3.2.2. But I am now not entitled to download it anymore.



That's the issue Biker09 is referring to - we purchased the software in the past and our entitlement to it has been removed when we installed Yosemite on one of our machines. I'm hoping this is an error by Apple and they will get this resolved.


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Also, with Server 3.2.2 stopping so abruptly there is no way to disable services and remove the server data from my Yosemite machine. If you move Server.app to the Trash a dialog pops up that tells you the app has been removed and services are being shut down, but that all data and configurations are being kept. Unless I purchase 4.0 I don't have a way to remove the data from the machine without trying to track down where all the files are stored manually.

Oct 18, 2014 3:11 PM in response to Kraftwerk

So how would you feel when they take away your pick-up because they brought out a new model? You paid for the old one but if you wanna keep on driving you will have to buy the new one and pay for it.

I want to be able to (re)install Mavericks and server 3.2.2

mavericks is still in my purchases and the server app is gone

Even if it would cost one cent taking it away is not done. Its not the price that matters its the fact that they take it away from you

Oct 19, 2014 11:30 AM in response to Biker09

Glad I read your post and did not upgrade. So disappointed by Apple to do this to get $20 from their power users for a server that has so many issues that have not been resolved (SMB/AFP still unstable/buggy on some clients, server eats up RAM that never gets released and is only fixable by reboot, no support for versions hence impossible to work on Pages/Numbers/Keynote files located on server, wiki services buggy). At least I am glad I got my new server in August before another stupid move from Apple against power users (new mac mini RAM cannot be upgraded anymore!). Apple current direction and lack of software quality control makes me seriously consider leaving the Apple ecosystem.....

Oct 19, 2014 12:26 PM in response to Laurent Seroude

Ah, the Apple ecosystem...


I'm supporting about 300 users in an outdated ecosystem. 2009 Xserve with a 2011 MacPro as a directory replica. Both running 10.6.8. Buggy as all heII. Upgrading will be a nightmare. Got about 20 teacher MacBooks this summer which are running independently of the server and are using Meraki and Apple Profile Manager. Have 30 iMacs in a lab, 18 of which are 2009 and 12 of which are 2006. Also a very buggy setup with all kinds of compatibility issues and persistent settings. The 2006s topped out at 10.7.5.


Also got three Chromebook carts this summer for students. They are amazing! Deploy and forget. The Google admin panel is easy to use and intuitive. No need for expensive servers and RAID backups. A simple, elegant, and effective solution.


I learned computing and programming on Apple IIe and Macintosh SE. Then in 1995, went to MS. Came back to Apple this year. While I love using Macs, I HATE administering them. Things are rapidly changing, and Google is making major inroads in the education industry. Not to mention Chromebooks are 20-25% the cost of MacBooks or iMacs. If Apple doesn't start changing its decades-old approach, they're going to get left behind.

Oct 19, 2014 12:54 PM in response to pantrypest

Agree with you but when I leave Apple it will not be to go to another company that cannot be trusted and instead I will go open source and Linux. I have been managing Mac networks since 1991 and administering them was as much as a pleasure as using them until 10.6. My Panther server is still running (since 2004) and never had any issue, meanwhile my 2 month old Maverick Mac Mini server has already been wiped/reinstalled twice. I was hoping that upgrading would fix the inability to work with iWork documents on a network share and I just wasted money on server that cannot handle my work environment needs any better than my 10yrs-old Panther server. Actually my Panther server is more stable at serving web pages (600+ student connections) and windows users (server runs literally for years without reboot and I could spend months without even looking at it).

Oct 20, 2014 3:40 PM in response to David Bernard

Correction - it is documented - misread the title "OS X Server: Upgrade and migration from Mavericks or Mountain Lion".


It is poor form to "recharge" for a product that is mostly open source software. In the past when they charged for Mac OS X recently purchased machines would be upgrade to a new release for free. If you have recently purchased OS X Server I would have though this should be apply. If you recently purchased a Mac mini with OS X Server there is a free upgrade to OS X Server 4 "Up-To-Date Program for OS X Server".


I do not recall anywhere the upgrade to Yosemite documented OS X Server 3 would not work.

Oct 21, 2014 5:15 AM in response to Kraftwerk

Contacting apple support to let them know this is not a good business practice. Just like with pages, numbers and keynote existing users should get this app free as a coupon for at least 3 years after original purchase. How else are administrators upgrading to yosemite 10.10 supposed to manage their customers servers? Apple wants everyone to upgrade so it's dumb and malicious to expect people to either pay or stay with an old OS just for 1 piece of functionality. This is one more reason to just go with Linux. Too bad you have to in order to be free of ransom demands.

Oct 21, 2014 2:18 PM in response to Rendorseg

If you read the description to 3.2.2 it specifically states that it is for Mavericks, so what Apple is guilty of is having poor information concerning this. At the very least the Yosemite installer should have detected the Server App and issues a warning that an additional purchase would be required to continue using the Server.


But, again at a $19.99 price point it seems they did not care.

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