OSX Yosemite Wifi issues

Hi,

A couple of months later we know, that El capitan doesn't change nothing for some of us. Still the same issues with Wifi and perhaps the WiFi Drivers.

Now we have the Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (7.21.94.25.1a3) drivers and nothing changed. I made a clean install of El Capitan and made some tests.

If I surf the web for about 10-20 minutes with bluetooth devices connected the internet bandwidth drops to almost 100 kbits/s. When I turn off Bluetooth or all devices the bandwidth goes up to 18 Mbits/s. This game I can repeat as often as I want. So Apple, what's the problem. You got new drivers and nothing works. And please don't offer me to change the router settings. I have no access to a router in a hotel. This simply must work, especially for the "Premium" price we pay for Apple products. By the way this happens in all environments where I accessed the WiFi in combination with Bluetooth.

Hi,

A couple of months later we know, that El capitan doesn't change nothing for some of us. Still the same issues with Wifi and perhaps the WiFi Drivers.

Now we have the Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (7.21.94.25.1a3) drivers and nothing changed. I made a clean install of El Capitan and made some tests.

If I surf the web for about 10-20 minutes with bluetooth devices connected the internet bandwidth drops to almost 100 kbits/s. When I turn off Bluetooth or all devices the bandwidth goes up to 18 Mbits/s. This game I can repeat as often as I want. So Apple, what's the problem. You got new drivers and nothing works. And please don't offer me to change the router settings. I have no access to a router in a hotel. This simply must work, especially for the "Premium" price we pay for Apple products. By the way this happens in all environments where I accessed the WiFi in combination with Bluetooth.

sternd wrote:

Update: I noticed that's enough to turn off all Bluetooth devices to re-establish the internet bandwidth. Bluetooth can be activated as long you have no device connected. If I turn on the mouse or the keyboard the drop occurs again.

That does sound like interference, ironically coming from the mouse and/or keyboard!

I did some experiments with this and my Macbook Air with OS 10.10.5. At home, turning bluetooth on or off had no impact on the 60 mbps internet downlink signal we get through a wireless router WRT160N which seems to go up to ~ 100+ Mbps as best I can determine informally with large file copies via wireless between different computers in the house.

At work, with bluetooth off I see 300 Mbps up and down (both directions). With bluetooth on, if the wireless connection is at the 5GHz signal, I see no impacts. If the wireless access is at 2.4 GHz, then using the bluetooth mouse + keyboard seems to cut the downlink from ~300 to ~ 150 Mbps, although strangely enough the uplink remains at 300 Mbps. (I don't know the exact routers in place at work but I think they are Cisco units.)

So I can see some minor-ish impact from two nearby bluetooth devices (mouse + keyboard) for one direction, but it's still pretty fast. It might be device independent, my mouse and keyboard using bluetooth are Apple devices.

Finally, note this discussion of bluetooth interfering with WiFi

http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/153009/bluetooth-and-wifi-interfering-w ith-one-another-since-yosemite

I should also point out that (a) people have also reported bluetooth and WiFi interference issues with Mavericks

(see http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/120512/workaround-for-mavericks-bluetoo th-wi-fi-interference )

before Yosemite even came out; and (b) the first link above claims that discoveryd was a the culprit and that is now gone and thus the problem is supposedly fixed. But reports persist about this problem under Yosemite and El Capitan, so clearly there is more to this than just that.

If the bluetooth devices are interfering, one could elect to simply stop using them -- but this seems wrong as it's an advertised capability, and wireless keyboards and mouse are convenient, especially with laptops. Or try the higher WiFi frequency (5 GHz), or try a different make of wireless mouse and keyboard.

sternd wrote:

Update: I noticed that's enough to turn off all Bluetooth devices to re-establish the internet bandwidth. Bluetooth can be activated as long you have no device connected. If I turn on the mouse or the keyboard the drop occurs again.

That does sound like interference, ironically coming from the mouse and/or keyboard!

I did some experiments with this and my Macbook Air with OS 10.10.5. At home, turning bluetooth on or off had no impact on the 60 mbps internet downlink signal we get through a wireless router WRT160N which seems to go up to ~ 100+ Mbps as best I can determine informally with large file copies via wireless between different computers in the house.

At work, with bluetooth off I see 300 Mbps up and down (both directions). With bluetooth on, if the wireless connection is at the 5GHz signal, I see no impacts. If the wireless access is at 2.4 GHz, then using the bluetooth mouse + keyboard seems to cut the downlink from ~300 to ~ 150 Mbps, although strangely enough the uplink remains at 300 Mbps. (I don't know the exact routers in place at work but I think they are Cisco units.)

So I can see some minor-ish impact from two nearby bluetooth devices (mouse + keyboard) for one direction, but it's still pretty fast. It might be device dependent, my mouse and keyboard using bluetooth are Apple devices.

Finally, note this discussion of bluetooth interfering with WiFi

http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/153009/bluetooth-and-wifi-interfering-w ith-one-another-since-yosemite

I should also point out that (a) people have also reported bluetooth and WiFi interference issues with Mavericks

(see http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/120512/workaround-for-mavericks-bluetoo th-wi-fi-interference )

before Yosemite even came out; and (b) the first link above claims that discoveryd was the culprit and that is now gone and thus the problem is supposedly fixed. But reports persist about this problem under Yosemite and El Capitan, so clearly there is more to this than just that.

If the bluetooth devices are interfering, one could elect to simply stop using them -- but this seems wrong as it's an advertised capability, and wireless keyboards and mouse are convenient, especially with laptops. Or try the higher WiFi frequency (5 GHz), or try a different make of wireless mouse and keyboard.

steve626 wrote:

That does sound like interference, ironically coming from the mouse and/or keyboard!

That's exactly what I thought, perhaps it's the mouse and the keyboard ( btw. all Apple products ). Both of them interfere. For the moment I have no chance to try out another device set, but perhaps somebody could confirm this by using another brand than Apple.

And finally, what does this mean? Are the external devices defect?

steve626 wrote:

Finally, note this discussion of bluetooth interfering with WiFi

http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/153009/bluetooth-and-wifi-interfering-w ith-one-another-since-yosemite

Thanks for the link, really the discussion that explains my problems best. So the drivers are probably the bad guys. 😁

After trying everything, I fixed my problem: reverted to Mavericks!

Ironically, Windows 7 Pro in Boot Camp has been stable through it all. Now, Windows 10 Pro runs like a dream. I broke down and performed an install of El Capitan on my erased HD. El Capitan runs great. I was bent on keeping Mavericks, but, El Capitan supposedly has all the "stuff" of Mavericks and dumped discoveryd. All is well!!

Cheers

10.10.4 had already dumped discoveryd for mDNSresponder ... yet I still had problems. So I'm sticking with Mavericks.

Hmm I see 'branched into a new discussion' at the top of the thread, but clicking the link gives me a 'you are not authorized' error message.

What gives?

That’s where the moderators move posts that don’t comply with the terms of service. If you get a message from the moderators that your post has been removed, that’s where it went. None of us can see them anymore.

it was very helpfuL THANKS!!!!!

In all honesty, all these Network issues with OS X Yosemite are a TOTAL JOKE.

I've pretty much had it with all the problems. Nothing but issue after issue after issue. Sometimes a fix works, for a while. Sometimes it doesn't. There are constant problems with WiFi still and Apple still can't fix it. People are having to tweak Bluetooth, or delete files, or reset their network settings, or create new locations... CONSTANTLY. This is a complete waste of time and patience. OS X has turned into a totally unusable operating system for anything serious at this point for me.

And now... enter the irony. The most completely absurd part of the whole thing is the fact that if you have a Bootcamp partition, and login to Windows ON YOUR MAC, everything works perfect. WiFi, direct Ethernet connection, etc. There's never any drops EVER, at least in my experience. I am referring to Windows 7 here as well, an OS which is 6 years, 1 month, 26 days old. What a crock of ****.

Clearly, OS X has basic problems. Problems that somehow a multi-billion dollar company can't resolve. How is this even possible? It's almost 2016. WiFi was first available to consumers in 1997. Since then, many companies have developed hardware and software that works extremely well with WiFi. How is it that Apple cannot achieve the same results?

Mind-*******-blown.

TL;DR

Use Windows instead on a Bootcamp Partition.

i finally just weren't back to Mavericks. and doubt I'll ever "upgrade" again. If they would just actually fix the problems, it would be one thing, but they don't seem to want to be bothered by any of it

is there a solution from Apple for this Windows 10: BCM43xx S3 resume firmware initialization problem (MacBook Pro 15 mid 2014) annoying problem?