Report on the NEW iOS 8.1 Revision Today

I've been waiting for the iOS 8.1 revision today, as it contains some bug fixes and some NEW FEATURES added. It's out now, but I can't get to a WiFi spot just yet, as I'm running around. I'll be getting to it later today.


HOWEVER, please do let us know of some of your problems have been fixed or if there are some problems remaining. I hope this is going to help a lot of people today!


The two new items that I've been waiting for are "iCloud Photo Library" (in beta, though) and "iCloud Drive"!

iPad (4th gen) Wi-Fi + Cellular, iOS 8

Posted on Oct 20, 2014 10:26 AM

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Oct 22, 2014 2:46 AM in response to Star Traveler

Finally stepped forward and updated my iPad air from iOS 7.1.2 to iOS 8.1. And what i see is, noting but lag & bugs here and there! Share sheet icons still shift thier positions, safari stutters between tabs and even while opening folders in fav's. Opening control center(try opening cc in safari with keyboard up, u see things stutter. Open cc on homescreen with a folder open and it stutters again!!!!), spliting keyboard and even a basic task like moving between pages on homescreen(like never & ever before, icons on the next page takes few msec to show up) feels bad because they lag!! And all this on a year old device. Multitasking gestures still fail every 1 out of 10 times( which used to be 5/10). iOS 7.1.2 still feels like a safe place! Too bad...hoping for many fixes on next update!

Oct 22, 2014 4:15 AM in response to Crushroad

Typing this on my freshly upgraded iPad 2. I was one of those who reverted to 7.1.2 while it was still accessible but due to issues with my backup, restored to a fresh 7.1.2 build, so my 8.1 update has been to a relatively clean 2 - 3 week old installation of 7.1.2, not some version with quite literally years of accumulated upgrade history. The upgrade was painless, and the behaviour since upgrade has been impressive, and promising.


Just the slightest hint of slower performance on the iPad 2 under 8.1 compared with what I'm used to with 7.1.2, but nothing like the lag and jerkiness I experienced with 8.0 - I never tried 8.0x - preferring to wait.


And the killer issue for me was the constantly breaking 3G connectivity. Well it hasn't gone off so far, but it's too early to say if it is all sorted yet. I'm hopeful, and will keep people posted over coming days.


Cheers,

Trevor from Oak Park

Oct 22, 2014 4:26 AM in response to trevorfromoakpark

Hi trevorfromoakpark, after reading your post, it seems like (with a clean install) you can get iOS 8.1 under control and running similar to 7.1.2. However, after reading what others have written, and having tried 8.1 on iPads at an Apple Store, I don't want to create a lagfest on my rMini. I've been reading around, and Safari still seems very buggy (and tab view very laggy - especially when closing tabs). What I don't understand, is how some people have a smooth experience with iOS 8.1, whilst others are not. If it really comes down to a clean install, it seems like a (fairly) easy fix. Also, did you update through iTunes or OTA?


Thanks a lot in advance

Oct 22, 2014 4:40 AM in response to moritzhberg

Hi moritzhberg, yes it seems like having a clean, or near clean install of the earlier OS is a key part of iOS 8.1 install success. For me my fall-back plan - if you can call it that - was to blow the iPad away to factory settings and install 8.1 as a fresh install. After all, that's what I'd had to do a few weeks back to get 7.1.2 back onto my machine, when I'd discovered that my backup was no good, and I couldn't go back! I'd done it once, I figured I could do it again. There was nothing on my iPad in terms of documents, photos, settings that I could not reconstruct from elsewhere.


With regard to Safari, I must admit for better or for worse, as with my desktop, I tend to use Chrome on the iPad, and that seems to be working pretty well.


When I did try to use Safari for example to access this site, as I use a password manager, and I was trying to paste in the password into the password field from my password manager, Safari certainly didn't behave as neatly as Chrome in terms of accepting my tap gesture to get the "Paste" chiclet up in the password field. I'm not sure what is the cause of this, but it seemed to work much more reliably in Chrome.


As I said, there is a general perceptible performance hit across the board on the iPad under 8.1, but it does't seem as massive - unusably massive - as I perceived it to be with iOS 8.0 on the iPad 2.


For me with that original release there were two key factors that made me believe it was a no brainer to go back to 7.1.2 while I still could:


1. 3G kept dropping out

2. Performance of the "Gold" version of iOS 8 on iPad seemed totally performance mismatched / ill-tuned to the now admitted agieng iPad 2 Platform.


For those reasons I decided to hold off, but I must admit I was now up to at least 5 apps that no longer updated because they were now iOS 8 only so I knew I was going to have to move sometime. To date for me it looks like a good decision to have moved.


Cheers,

Trevor from Oak Park.

Oct 22, 2014 4:56 AM in response to trevorfromoakpark

Hi trevorfromoakpark, thanks a lot for the detailed response, it was very helpful to get an insight of how iOS 8.1 performs on an iPad 2. I know that UI lag isn't as much of a problem, but I kind of like to keep my devices performing like when I unboxed them to avoid longing for an upgrade after two years of use (for example, my iPod Touch 4, which shipped with iOS 4 is a nightmare on iOS 6). When testing iOS 8.1 at the Apple Store, one example that I could consistently recreate without fail on every iPad (even the Air 1) was lag when closing tabs in Safari in the new tab view (load up a few tabs, and swipe them off one by one, and you will see that they pause halfway through the animation). Can you confirm that this is no longer present after performing a clean install?


Thanks a lot

Oct 22, 2014 2:07 PM in response to Star Traveler

I've been following this thread for a while now and would like to ask contributors if they are aware of

a) any official Apple response to the problems some iPad users are suffering on thier previously ok units since the ios8 update and

b) a definitive answer to any self help fixes, for example restoring the iPad with a pre iOS 8 back up, would this do the trick?

c) any further upgrades to sort out the issues?


to be honest I'm pretty disillusioned with the whole thing now and very frustrated after thinking I was stepping into a better world than the one dominated by microsoft

Oct 22, 2014 2:19 PM in response to tony1305

HI tony1305.


In a few other forum posts I have been in the past few weeks where the iPad issues were Safari problems, constant pop ups, cellular/ wifi connectivity issues, a couple of people contacted Apple support or went to an Apple store. They were instructed that the issues would be solved by erasing all their data and reinstalling the iOS. Some did it hooking up the iPad to the computer connecting to iTunes and others like myself did it by erasing/reinstalling with an iCloud backup. it solved my pop up and many Safari issues, but over the past few days I still have some Safari issues with pages not loading or responding to touch when trying to open a link.


hope this helps.

Oct 22, 2014 2:23 PM in response to tony1305

(a) Apple's official response to bugs is, very simply, releasing a bug fix. And that's exactly what they should do. Also, people should always be aware that not every problem is a bug and not every problem requires a bug fix. There is always "Apple Support" for those people who don't know how to go about this. I would always advise someone who can't find answers from other users or can't figure things out from other users, to always go to Apple Support!


(b) Yes, there have been a lot of "definitive answers" for many users here in the various solutions that other users have suggested. They're very definitive to those users who have reported success. The problem is, that the possible variations in problems does not ever lend itself to just "one solution" to fix everyone's problems. It's always on a "case-by-case" basis.


(c) There are further revisions in the pipeline - not by announcement from Apple, but by others having already noticed that versions iOS 8.2 and iOS 8.3 are currently being tested out on the Internet. So, by observation of some other users (and not by announcement from Apple, we at least know that versions 8.2 and 8.3 are out there.


AND ... we can further say, that if users present to Apple Support (and get it logged and tracked) that there are further bugs out there, then Apple WLL be issuring further bug fixes, without fail. You can count on that!

Oct 22, 2014 2:27 PM in response to jglnaz372

The problem with NOT using iTunes to reset to a factory default mode, is that when you simply do it from your iOS device, it leaves the current system and files in place. It does NOT provide for the "clean install" that I've been constantly saying that users should do "no matter what" and no matter whether they have a system upgrade or not. They should do that at least once a year, in any case. They need a "clean system install".


Therefore, you have NOT had a "clean system install" yet!


Now, whether that will solve any of your problems or not, can't be said ahead of time. It has for many people, but one cannot predict this ahead of time. What one can say - without a doubt - is that it pays to have new and clean system files, without any corrupted files, and that's what doing it with iTunes provides you.

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