System is running our of application memory after yosemite install

Using a high end Mac Book Pro LATE 2013. 16GB ram. No programs running except MAIL. Just updated to YOSEMITE and getting the error "Your system has run out of application memory". This make no sense, I've rebooted several times, opened mail and getting the same error message. NO OTHER PROGRAMS ARE RUNNING.

MacBook Pro (15-inch 2.4/2.2 GHz), OS X Yosemite (10.10), 16 GB ram

Posted on Oct 20, 2014 4:48 PM

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Nov 1, 2014 5:56 AM in response to mdsalemi

I'm at least encouraged that:


1) The culprit seems to be identified (mail)

2) It's widespread.


I'm confident that Apple will quietly push out an update to address the problem. It took them a few years to figure out how to access SMB shares on a NAS without ever admitting that they had a problem, but it finally started working (around Lion-time, I think).


Anyway, one solution to the problem, at least temporarily - webmail!


Tom

Nov 1, 2014 6:11 AM in response to pointpeninsula

Well, I hauled my 45 pound MacPro into the Apple Store yesterday...

What they told me there was that it appears as if the problem is related to those using GoDaddy mail; NOT GoDaddy's mail using Office365 (the only mail service you can buy now from GoDaddy) but rather GoDaddy's hosted servers, which are imap.secureserver.net and smtpout.secureserver.net. Apparently the culprit might (I have yet to let it run for days) be the checkbox under mail preferences-->accounts-->mailbox behaviors-->drafts. You need to uncheck (i.e. do not) the box about "store drafts on server".


As explained to me by the Genius (that's what they call them there!) helping me, there needs to be some kind of handshake on this that either the GoDaddy servers aren't doing, or Apple Mail isn't processing properly or both causing a "memory leak" which results in the "out of application memory" error message.

So we unchecked the box on just the GoDaddy server email accounts and we'll see what happens over the next week.


This also might explain my OTHER issue which drove me to Apple Mail in the first place: when I set up my email accounts on Microsoft Outlook (Office 2011 for Mac) for these GoDaddy servers, they worked fine for 20 minutes. Then, they lost the connection to the IMAP server and the only way to get them back was to delete the IMAP mail account on Outlook, and re-install it. That of course, was only good for 20 minutes until THAT lost the connection.


I'm not a fan of GoDaddy and sorry I ever signed up with them and seriously considering moving my domain and mail to someone else.

Nov 1, 2014 6:22 AM in response to mdsalemi

Thanks for the report, mdsalemi.


I too am using GoDaddy's email, and after reading your post, I launched mail just long enough to examine the status of the checkbox you referred, and in my case it was NOT checked.


(I agree with you about the MS Outlook difficulties. I never imagined that it was GoDaddy's limitations or problem, since it's worked fine with other mail clients.)


Tom

Nov 3, 2014 5:21 PM in response to pointpeninsula

Thanks for all of the trouble-shooting suggestions.


I've been dealing with the "running out of application memory" since updating to Yosemite and was hoping Apple would've patched it by now. No luck, it seems.


My MacBook Pro (2.3 GHz, 16 GB RAM) and has had no problems until I updated to Yosemite. I even waited several days to update to Yosemite after the release to let them fix the initial bugs. Unfortunately, my prudence wasn't rewarded...


I'll play around with some of the tips mentioned in this thread. Thanks so much for the insightful posts.


Hoping Apple fixes this ASAP. Productivity is suffering.


Cheers.

Nov 3, 2014 5:33 PM in response to DeeDubb11

Well, if you are near an Apple store they will indeed revert your machine back to Mavericks or earlier at no charge. I would not suffer with this too long if I were you. In my case the situation stabilized today, but I seem to get a lot of issues where I'm force-closing applications, something that rarely happened.


Apparently Yosemite was released before its time.

Nov 4, 2014 3:47 AM in response to joetester

I'm running the new Mac Pro 6,1 (Late 2013) with 2.7GHz 12-Core Intel Xeon E5 processor withe 64 GB Memory and I'm having the same trouble.


Installed Yosemite late yesterday afternoon. The problem started this morning as I started to work on a mail message.


I've tried the PRAM, disk repair, and also changed my Go Daddy mail SSL back to 993 (happened to me too). Still crashing. I'm keeping the Activity Monitor up and when Mail starts to go past 2GM of memory, I shut the program down. I'm only opening mail when I have to send or check messages.


I'm also noticing a lot more hiccups as I work...like the machine is trying to catch up. Was in mid sentence in Word and the color wheel started spinning.


I'm working in Final Cut today and praying that the problems don't continue with all other programs turned off. Will post with my experience. Hopefully the Apple guys are reading this message string, but the lack of involvement by Apple officials in this forum is troubling.

Nov 4, 2014 6:58 AM in response to DallasTexasAggie

Early 2011 Macbook Pro 13"

i5 2.3 GHz

8 GB RAM

SSD 250 GB 840 EVO

Mavericks (10.9.5)


I updated my system 2 days after Yosemite came available. I noticed my system was being bombarded by something that caused my music DAWs to lag, which I never had this issue with Mavericks. I keep my system extremely clean, no saved documents, pictures, music, or videos. I only have programs alone and use a 2TB drive as external to save work or any media sorts. I KNOW my system in and out. 250 GB capacity and I only used 20 GB thats including the OS X. So get a picture I'm painting here. The system shouldn't be running high 2-3 GB of RAM out of my 8 GB when Idle and when apps are being processed and used it's even more lagged.


I reinstalled Mavericks and all is good, order in the universe is restored. Yosemite is too glitchy and buggy for my taste for now.

Nov 4, 2014 6:05 PM in response to joetester

Updates are usually tolerable but this one really hits hard where the workflow is most important.


OS X Yosemite

Mac mini (Mid 2011)

2.5 GHz Intel Core i5

16 GB 1333 MHz DDR3

Multiple Email Accounts including multiple GoDaddy IMAP accounts.


Happens only after Yosemite Update

Tried removing drafts from the server.

Tried PRAM reset too.


Still Crashes and Crashes Hard.

Nov 6, 2014 1:55 PM in response to joetester

Have spent the past four days with support for this exact problem on my Macbook Air (2013). Same thing...no problems until the Yosemite installation. We did everything up and through a clean install. The conclusion, as of today, is that Apple is investigating the problem and we'll have to wait until the update that fixes it. It is considered a 'known problem' at this point. I guess rebooting my computer every hour is the new normal until it's fixed.

Nov 7, 2014 4:59 AM in response to joetester

There are two things I will do--unfortunately I can't do them immediately but have to ease into them.


1. Roll back to Mavericks. Yes, Mavericks was fine, and there was enough 3rd party subs for iCloud drive that I don't need the Yosemite headaches. Unfortunately, Apple doesn't make it an easy process. Yes, there are a variety of posted work arounds all revolving around something you had to do BEFORE you did the upgrade. I have new-to-me machines so I didn't have these Mavericks back up plans in place. So, off to the Apple Store and let them do it. If enough people flood the stores with these service requests this might elevate the issue.


2. STOP using GoDaddy servers for email. GoDaddy told me they are not likely to do anything here, since there servers are now relatively unsupported. They are trying to move everyone to Office365 for mail, and abandon their own. They are a somewhat questionable outfit and I kick myself for jumping into bed with them. As soon as I can find a reliable IMAP mail service with real support I'm moving the domain over.


These two will hopefully solve the issue. I can live without Yosemite for some time. Mavericks was fine.

Nov 7, 2014 5:22 AM in response to OleJohan

There's surely more than one problem here. Mail using GoDaddy servers is a big one.

One other issue I had was slow shutdown times. Shutdown before Yosemite was seconds. Under the Yosemite upgrade, a power-off shutdown turned into 5 minutes. Turned out that some programs having to do with Parallels were causing the issue. They were fine with Mavericks and earlier, but under Yosemite the same programs residing in the same place caused problems.


Yosemite seems to have some invasive, PC-like issues...if you have to go searching for somewhat hidden files, and anything with the words "startup daemon" in it, to try and solve a problem, you are venturing out of Mac-land and into the world of PC nonsense. That's why I'm rolling back as soon as I can...

Nov 7, 2014 8:40 AM in response to mdsalemi

I switched one of my godaddy imap accounts over to microsoft exchange online and although it fixed some speed issues I was having a few times a day with godaddy's old servers it has also introduced a myriad of new problems in mac mail that I suppose I'll find or start another discussion for. Mail was a problem in Mavericks and it is far worse on Yosemite. Haven't had the memory leak cause a restart in over a week since unchecking store drafts and junk on the server for my godaddy imap though. I do now see it run my memory up to 20-30% which with 48 GB is around 12 gigs just for mail...

Nov 8, 2014 4:15 AM in response to joetester

Ditto on my 2012 MacPro with 16GB RAM, Mail alone was up to 12GB while Mail was open and I was composing an email! I have the crash log on the app which proves it. I saw Activity Monitor fill up. Mail started out doing the same thing on my laptop (MBP). Even tried Memory Clean to see if any other apps were causing it. With Mail not being used (in the background but open), there seems not to be a problem. Maybe that helps pin it down?


Tried using Memory Clean app to clear out unused memory, but that made no difference to Mail filling its bucket however. I will repair permissions to see if that clears anything up. Doubtful. I will use the theory that a GoDaddy account is to blame and try the workaround mentioned here on both my Mac Pro and MBP (only for draft messages not Junk) to see if this is cleared. For other posters, I had big problems in Mavericks with Mail as well, going back to that is not an option.


I would think that this is a hot issue, hope so, because it's a no-go for me on this issue. I have had issues with Mail in Mavericks in a different way. I did a clean install of Yosemite (from a bare drive->Mountain Lion->Mavericks) on another issue with Apple Tech and then this crops up. Will try a reinstall if confirmed that's a fix. Otherwise I'll have to migrate to another app.


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