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System is running our of application memory after yosemite install

Using a high end Mac Book Pro LATE 2013. 16GB ram. No programs running except MAIL. Just updated to YOSEMITE and getting the error "Your system has run out of application memory". This make no sense, I've rebooted several times, opened mail and getting the same error message. NO OTHER PROGRAMS ARE RUNNING.

MacBook Pro (15-inch 2.4/2.2 GHz), OS X Yosemite (10.10), 16 GB ram

Posted on Oct 20, 2014 4:48 PM

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Posted on Oct 21, 2014 12:46 AM

I've started getting the same issue. Never happened under Mavericks...


My MacBook Pro:

  • MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Early 2013)
  • Processor: 2.7 GHz Intel Core i7
  • Memory: 16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3.
  • OS X Yosemite
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Nov 12, 2014 5:48 PM in response to joetester

I left this same post in another topic forum (same issue) and hope this helps.


Two weeks ago my bright and shiny new iMac 27 i7 5K Retina arrived, with 1TB Flash drive and 32GB memory—no holds barred. I'm in the tech field so I have robust needs and way too many programs installed, including upwards of 20 helpers in the System Menu. Just a few days into my reinstalling everything from my outgoing Mavericks > Yosemite iMac (no migration on the new machine, just a fresh start) problems identical to those described here began—and haven't stopped.


Mail is up 24/7, including SpamSieve and MailHub add-ons. Even when many apps were open for my normal work, I'd have a good 20GB free memory. But somewhere around Day 3 symptoms of the issues began with a "stuttering" latency when dragging windows, or shifting desktop spaces, a lag of sorts, surprising given the abundant RAM and processor speed, but something I'd seen reported on Yosemite's roll-out, though I hadn't noticed it during my many months of beta testing.


From "stuttering" windows I could actually watch my Memory Clean status plummet from ±20GB to around 15MB, and huge spikes in memory pressure, as this appeared on my screen repeatedly over the past two weeks:


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Then the machine locked up. This happened with regular frequency through the day, sometimes a dozen times a day. The longest I went without seeing it was 1.5 days—but it made up for its absence by making it impossible for me to get 15 good minutes before freezing up again. Vizzini's voice rang in my head, "Inconceivable!"


Apple Tech Support, Tier 2/3, didn't understand it, but tried to help me debug it over several days, watching it occur live on screen sharing. They elevated it to "the engineering team," but I haven't heard back for several more days now, having sent in screen snaps of every possible image that might help: activity monitor, console and system crash logs, everything.


Then I found pages like this.


So, since I have two GoDaddy accounts I checked the IMAP settings and, as expected, my SSL ports had changed to 143. Heeding the advice of all here, I reset Mail settings as advised, and so far have had NO issues at all. I will continue to monitor and report, but if that's what's causing it, I'm sure your sleuthing will help a whole lot of folks, including me. I'm already grateful for a few hours of up time.

Nov 13, 2014 5:17 AM in response to Vintagenarian

I "downgraded" my MacBook Pro to Mavericks, equipped my Microsoft Outlook for Mac (part of Office, resident on the computer itself) to use the GoDaddy servers, and voila--all problems seemingly have disappeared. This was two problems for me--first, the memory leak issue with Apple Mail, and more importantly the inability of Outlook to play nice with Yosemite and GoDaddy...it just kept losing the sync/connection to the IMAP server and no way to reconnect w/o starting an entirely new "account".


After a bit of research and soul searching I decided that I am going to move my mail server to Microsoft Office Business Essentials for $5 per month. I can then go back to Yosemite, and have a few other benefits, such as online versions of Office (not that I need it) and 1TB of cloud storage (hey, not bad.) I didn't like Apple Mail (though I tried it valiantly) for business-class email, and full disclosure, I've been using Outlook for many years even before I moved to a Mac 4 years ago. Having an HTML mail capability is appealing.


When I do this, I'll have my desktop MacPro on Yosemite, and the MacBook on Mavericks, and let that run and work for a while to ensure that the mail is up, the syncing is consistent and correct, and then I'll probably move the MacBook back to Yosemite when they issue a major release.


Interestingly Apple Mail on iPad and iPhone has been perfect...

Nov 15, 2014 7:41 PM in response to DallasTexasAggie

Well after reading all the posts here and now understanding that my problem is most everybody's, I picked up the phone to call Apple support and spoke to a gentleman by the name David in Technical Support. He said, "Oh just do a re-install that will correct all your problems."


First of all I was in disbelief, that a Apple Tech had no idea the mouse had tumor. We have been (all) on this since October 21 (it's been nearly a month). Hellooo. . . Apple! 😕

Nov 18, 2014 6:18 AM in response to joetester

Yesterday at 3:00 pm or so, Apple released an update to Yosemite, 10.10.1. In its description, they did list some vague fixes to connection/memory issues to "certain email providers" which is the crux of this issue here. I have/had two issues: first is the memory leak, whereby Apple Mail on Yosemite when connected via IMAP to GoDaddy's servers (the xxx.secureserver.net, not the Microsoft 365) hogs memory to cause a system crash, and the second was Outlook not maintaining [beyond a few minutes] a steady "link" to the GoDaddy IMAP servers when properly set up.


The first issue--memory leak--was temporarily? fixed by going to Apple Mail preferences, and unchecking the "store drafts on server" box.

The second issue--disconnection when using Outlook--did not have any fix I found.


I installed 10.10.1 yesterday, removed/deleted my GoDaddy IMAP account, and then re-established it. Outlook immediately created it; the folders appeared, and a connection was established. The IMAP folders all synced. When I went to check on one message, it came up with a notice that the entire message had not been downloaded from the server, and "Click here to download entire message". When I did click that to get the entire message, Outlook disconnected from the GoDaddy server. Thus, 10.10.1 has not fixed this issue. All of what I related here is on my desktop MacPro 5,1.


As a test, last week I went to the Apple Store, and we did a "clean install" of Mavericks on my MacBook Pro. I reinstalled all my software, including MS Office and Outlook. I set up my GoDaddy mail account on Outlook and it is working fine on Mavericks. When the system is asleep, or out of range of WiFi, of course, the connection/sync is disabled. As soon as an internet connection is established, and/or the laptop wakes up, the connection is re-established.


I conclude there is still and issue with Outlook connections to GoDaddy servers under Yosemite 10.10.1.


My solution is migrating, this week, from GoDaddy (I didn't like them much anyway) to a $5 per month Microsoft Business Essentials, which includes hosted IMAP email. I'm told from insiders that their email, which they call Exchange was designed around Outlook and vice versa. Thus in theory at least, the client and host will work together. I sure hope Yosemite doesn't interfere...but Mavericks is always an option.

Nov 28, 2014 8:18 PM in response to joetester

So I have exactly the same symptoms its November the 28th today adn this worked fine the day before yesterday. Except my problem is not mail it's iPhoto. Currently it will not start and iPhoto is using 33.36 GB of memory according to Activity Monitor. all other apps look fine. I use Airmail so don;t use the native mail client to see those issues. I just updated to the.1 release and thats done nothing. Apple looks like you have big bugs out there. Solution please. !!!

Nov 30, 2014 7:54 AM in response to rakeshfromlynnwood

This is disheartening news; now we have essentially the same kind of "memory leak" issue affecting HitFilm3 Pro and iPhoto users. What's disheartening about this is that there's been nothing from Apple on this. This kind of memory leak, at least in the form I experienced it, is a failure of massive proportions, a full and total OS crash. In my case the only way out was literally pulling the plug--no other normal Apple maneuver worked. No force quit, no system restart or shutdown from the Apple menu.


I said it in an earlier post--this kind of crash is what Microsoft Windows was/is all about, and there are legions of Mac users like myself who adapted fully in the last 4 years. My system had never crashed, ever--period. I've spent more time screwing around with this Yosemite and trying to get a stable system to work. I've given up on GoDaddy, and have already signed up for Office 365 to allow Outlook to work properly.


My laptop is on Mavericks and experiences none of the Yosemite issues. Wake up, Apple...fix the problem!

Nov 30, 2014 10:34 AM in response to joetester

I've spent hours on the phone with Apple support some of my issues were clouded by a router going bad still having the memory leak issue currently only running Mail and Safari, from clean boot this morning memory used up to 12.85 gig I usually reboot before the system crashes enough already.


MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Late 2013)

2.6 GHz Intel Core i7

16 Gig Ram

1 TB SSD

Dean Allen

Dec 4, 2014 4:28 AM in response to joetester

Ditto on my 2012 MacPro with 16GB RAM, mail alone was up to 12GB while Mail was open and I was composing an email! Mail started out doing the same thing on my laptop (MBP). Even tried Memory Clean to see if any other apps were causing it. With Mail not being used (in the background but open, there seems not to be a problem.


What works for me in Yosemite... Earlier Mavericks had these issues as well. In non-Gmail, non-iCloud IMAP accounts (e.g., commercial server accounts specifically GoDaddy):

Set the Store Drafts option to not Server (local).

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Set SMTP Servers> Advanced>Automatically detect and maintain... to off.

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These settings work well in both the earlier OS 10.10 and later version 10.10.1, I do not know if the memory leak issue was fixed by Apple but I have used these since 10.10.0 with no recurrence of the issue.


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Dec 6, 2014 7:51 AM in response to joetester

I have finally solved my problems. First, I got rid of Apple Mail being used as an email client--it was an experiment in the first place, but after using Outlook for so long decided that Outlook is significantly more robust as a business level email client than Apple Mail. Second, I got rid of the GoDaddy servers; that also was an experiment, one which GoDaddy themselves have put on the DNR (do not resuscitate list) as the no longer offer their own email, but only through Office 365/Microsoft Exchange.


Outside of the GoDaddy affiliation, I went directly to Office online, and signed up for their $5 a month plan. It came with a bizarre email address, myname@mycompany.onmicrosoft.com which of course is way to complex to use. I already had my own domain, mycompany.net so following their procedure, I deactivated the license for the first email address, substituted my own domain, and then added this to my installed copy of Outlook for Mac 2011. It all worked very well. I then added two additional email aliases (through a non-trivial, non-intuitive procedure) and now all is up and running just fine. I have this installed on my Desktop with Yosemite, my laptop with Mavericks, iPad and iPhone and all is working exactly the way it is supposed to on all devices.


I'll let it sit for a few weeks to get more experience, and after the next Yosemite update (we know its coming...) I'll probably update the MacBook Pro from Mavericks to Yosemite.

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