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BUG in process suhelperd: over-released legacy external boost assertions (1 total, 1 external, 0 legacy-external)

Hello,


I just formatted my MacBook Pro and installed a fresh installation of Yosemite. I always have this bug which makes my log file full:


BUG in process suhelperd[193]: over-released legacy external boost assertions (1 total, 1 external, 0 legacy-external)


I can give you a hint that it's maybe about Software Updater Helper.. but dunno how to solve it.


Thanks,

JF

MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Early 2013), OS X Yosemite (10.10)

Posted on Oct 29, 2014 10:34 PM

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Dec 27, 2014 10:21 AM in response to JF-

I've been searching & reading a lot to identify the culprit of boot ups that freeze/hang, which I've been dealing with for days. Although I have seen boots take more than 30 mins to unfreeze or not at all, I recently increased the RAM on my late-2009 Macbook. This provided a good boost to my old machine, and has made trouble shooting analysis go by much more quickly, however the extra memory did not solve my boot up problem.


I've explored Safe boots, PRam reset, Disk Utility Verifications/Repairs, turning off automatic software updates, etc...just about everything shy of a reinstall of OS--which now is not an option since a post here indicated that that didn't solve anything and was a big time waster.


Note: I do have functionality:

After the boot hangs, I can hit COMMAND-OPTION-SHIFT-ESC to finish (or perhaps abort) the hung boot process, and I get taken to my login screen. Although graphics look strange for a while--thick gray bands scroll upwards before my desktop settles down, and folders on my dock open up in a staccato fashion--it normalizes within apps and overall, and functionality is near normal, sans freezes.


This is how my system now hangs before I need to enter COMMAND-OPTION-SHIFT-ESC to continue to login:


Wifi Off, restart, Command-V:

created vertif xxxxxxxx p2p0


Wifi On, restart, Command-V:

BUG in process suhelperd[185]: over-released legacy external boost assertions (1 total, 1 external, 0 legacy-external).


I would love to have normal booting return, as the stalled boot needing my keystrokes has me worried about my mac's stability. And perhaps my tip above could give much needed (although perhaps risky) access to those here who are frozen out of their computer.

Dec 27, 2014 8:05 PM in response to actorbarry

Based off the information given by actorbarry, the virtif p2p0 interface is the AirDrop interface (wonder why it is still being created even though the WiFi is supposedly off...).


How does the system perform for subsequent reboots with the WiFi off (where virtif p2p0 should not be being created - or at least be DOWN)?


It looks more like the suhelperd process issue is tied to the WiFi interface. If people are continuing to have significant issues (and WiFi is the primary network connection in use), perhaps the following may help:


WARNING - Fiddling in the System Directory can lead to major system problems if things go wrong


Your HD Name Here ▸ System ▸ Library ▸ Extensions, and move the IO80211Family.kext Extension to another folder (e.g. Desktop > Extension Locker). Since the default action is to copy the extension (same as an option-drag), you'll need to force the move (apple-drag / command-drag) and may need an administrator's password, depending on your particular account and system settings.


Reboot, and watch what happens.


What does this step do?

This step moves the 802.11 (WiFi) system extension out of the System folder and effectively disables WiFi at the System level (i.e. no driver for it). If WiFi is the underlying cause for the suhelperd crashes on your system, then this step should get your system back online after a reboot, but you'll have no WiFi, and you'll have to use another network connection to get to the internet.


If the step doesn't work, move the extension back into the Extensions folder so you can get your WiFi back.


If it has worked, and you can't live without WiFi, consider using a kext utility (there's a few to choose from, but use at own risk) to reinstall the kext.

Dec 28, 2014 3:48 AM in response to JF-

My mid-2011 27" iMac is running 10.10.1 (installed over 10.9), and since a few days, is refusing to boot at all (stuck in a reboot loop). The suhelperd-message shows itself during startup in verbose mode, though with all numbers between brackets at 0. (BUG in process suhelperd[182]: over-released legacy external boost assertions (0 total, 0 external, 0 legacy-external). Nothing seems to work (booting in safe mode, resetting NVRAM, booting from external USB). I ran Apple Hardware Test and did find something wrong with one of my four 4-Gig memory modules, which I removed, but the problem still remains.


It seems as if most of the people in this thread do still get to a desktop, anybody else with the type of problem I'm experiencing? Any suggestions would be helpful, since at the moment, my iMac is nothing more than a very large paperweight...

Dec 28, 2014 6:17 AM in response to AUMacUser

Thanks for responding, AUMacUser.


Wifi On/Off: When I wrote Wifi was off, I simply meant I turned it off using System Preferences/Network/Turn Wifi Off. My Airport Express is still plugged in.* I will run a test next with it removed and see how that effects things before moving around the .kext file you mentioned.


Additionally, I've also seen the boot hang in this way--

Wifi On, Restart from Login Screen, Command-V:

Airport: RSN handshake complete on en1.


[* I use the Airport Express only for transmitting music to its connected speakers; otherwise the default Wifi connection for my MacBook is with the 5G router from my cable company.]

Dec 28, 2014 6:25 AM in response to daan1981

Re: daan1981's paperweight.


Here's how I get past my troublesome boots. The Verbose startup lets me clearly see when boot processing has stopped. At that point I enter COMMAND-OPTION-SHIFT-ESC together for a few seconds, the screen darkens briefly, I let go of the keys, and I get taken to my login screen. I don't really know the meaning or dangers of such an action, but my guess is that I'm simply aborting some of the startup safeguards at the tail end of my login, which are hanging up the boot process.


I have also entered these keystrokes in a regular startup that gets hung (with the progress bar stuck about 1/3 of the way across).

Jan 1, 2015 3:01 AM in response to daan1981

What worked for me was to:

"Use the built-in recovery disk to reinstall OS X while keeping your files and user settings intact. Important: You must be connected to the Internet to reinstall OS X. Choose Apple menu > Restart. Once your Mac restarts (and the gray screen appears), hold down the Command (⌘) and R keys."

I also installed Memory Clean and my MacBook is fast again.

I do not which of the two solved the issue.

Jan 11, 2015 4:12 AM in response to Delawaremathguy

HI,


I get the same suhelperd message as you and everyone else and have the same iMac as you in the same configuration but unlike most of those here I do not get any crashes or system hangs.


I am running with a very good wi-fi signal and 152mb broadband so not sure if makes the difference.


Also worth mentioning that I only get multiple messages when no updates are available. If the update process finds any updates to download then I don't get the messages.


Best Regards


Rich.

Jan 11, 2015 11:20 PM in response to Richb1910

Likewise here . . . Yosemite seems to have stabilized, and I no longer get crashes, nor do I see anymore the long, slow boot with the grey screen... but these "over-released legacy" errors continue to appear in the log. Point being that the errors are not necessarily fatal, and people who are trying to solve crashes may be chasing after a red herring here.

Jan 13, 2015 5:58 AM in response to jpdemers

hi,


i've posted a couple of times on this thread and i too, along with jpdemers, have decided that the suhelperd problem is probably, by itself, benign, and believe this problem perhaps to be at best only a contributing factor on certain machines.


in my case, the crash was almost always predictable (upon opening Mail or Safari or some other non-Apple apps), resulting in the same graphic disintegration on screen and a crash of the WindowServer, which then took down the whole machine and all users logged in.


and in most ... but not all ... of the console transcripts, the suhelperd messages were present just about the time of the crash. it's natural to pick on suhelperd as the likely suspect because of the word BUG in the message.


nevertheless, i do have some new information to submit since i've now been crash-free for about 10 days ... because i've replaced my machine with a new 27" 5K iMac! i wasn't necessarily driven to a new machine because of the problems we've been discussing, but when i found a good trade-in value for the old iMac and since i was planning on upgrading soon anyway, i just pulled the trigger earlier.

with the new machine, i've discovered the following:


  • when the machine came out of the box with 10.10.0, suhelperd was not present anywhere in the startup messages in the console. however, after opening System Preferences --> App Store, every click on the "Automatically check for updates" box still produced a single suhelperd message in the console.
  • after 3 days -- about 7 days ago -- i updated to 10.10.1 and, lo and behold, the console now again shows 100+ suhelperd messages at startup! still, i've been running without a crash ever since.


let's hope 10.10.2 fixes whatever needs to be fixed.


DMG (J)


iMac (Retina, 27-inch, Late 2014)

3.5 GHz Intel Core i5

8 GB memory, 1 TB Fusion drive

AMD Radeon M290X

OSX 10.10.1

Jan 25, 2015 12:04 PM in response to EVISCERATOR

Hey everyone. Read through the thread. Up until I started running the first pre-release of Yosemite 10.2, the only Yosemite weirdness I saw was the occasional logout of a user ID after I'd logged out of another one to the main login screen, and logged back into a userID that was already active. (I like to sandbox Facebook to its own space on my computer so I can limit their tracking to what they already know I do on their site.)


I see that WiFi is a common component in this thread, but I'm not seeing details regarding the type of WiFi signal, router model, firmware, and other issues that could, if enough of us responded, perhaps point out a trend.


So, with the help of the information available in Apple Menu > About This Mac > System Report > WiFi here is what I hope is pertinent information. Please try to follow the same format. I've masked my SSID and the second half of my MAC addresses, as people don't have a need to know those. I also made my channel bold. Feel free to copy what I posted and fill in your own information.

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Computer(s) where I see the symptoms: MacBook Pro 2009 and MacBook Air 2012
OS: All pre-release and release versions of Yosemite
Multiple User IDs active on computer: Yes
Applications always running: Outlook 2011 (always current version) and Firefox (always current version, with NoScript Add On)
Router: Asus RT-N66U
Router firmware: Asuswrt-Merlin, currently 376.49_5 available from http://asuswrt.lostrealm.ca/

Router Wireless Chipset: Broadcom BCM4331


WiFi information from System Report:

Interfaces:

en1:

Card Type: AirPort Extreme (0x14E4, 0x8D)

Firmware Version: Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (5.106.98.100.24)

MAC Address: 00:26:08:xx:xx:xx

Locale: FCC

Country Code: X0

Supported PHY Modes: 802.11 a/b/g/n

Supported Channels: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 36, 40, 44, 48, 52, 56, 60, 64, 100, 104, 108, 112, 116, 120, 124, 128, 132, 136, 140, 149, 153, 157, 161, 165

Wake On Wireless: Supported

AirDrop: Supported

Status: Connected

Current Network Information:

NotMySSID:

PHY Mode: 802.11n

BSSID: 30:85:a9:xx:xx:xx

Channel: 149,1

Country Code: X0

Network Type: Infrastructure

Security: WPA2 Personal

Signal / Noise: -69 dBm / -88 dBm

Transmit Rate: 162

MCS Index: 12

Other Local Wi-Fi Networks:

VULKANOxxxx:

PHY Mode: 802.11g

BSSID: 02:11:87:xx:xx:xx

Channel: 1

Network Type: Computer-to-Computer

Security: None

Signal / Noise: -68 dBm / -90 dBm

BUG in process suhelperd: over-released legacy external boost assertions (1 total, 1 external, 0 legacy-external)

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