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MIDI issues with LOGIC PRO X and KORG synthesizer

The problem : I have three failed choices. My synthesizer is connected to Logic. I can only hear what I record in the speakers of my synthesizer.


1 - Make a audio track. Record my melody into logic from the synthesizer. Playback (on mac) a poor quality recording. THE PROS: This track is savable and I can move it around in the tracks.

2- Make a software instrument track. Choose (in my inspector) the external plugin as KORG CHROME. I record - and bam! My playback ONLY plays through the speakers connected to my synthesizer. NOTHING in my mac's speakers plays any sound. I can't SAVE or BOUNCE this track. Nothing shows up but a lonely metronome. Additionally, if I was playing a Grand piano and switch to drums (making a new software instrument track below the original Grand Piano) Logic chooses to play only Drums or Piano.

3- MAke a External Midi track. I choose my synthesizer. I get the same results as option 2.


PLEASE help. I've been at this for four days

I have LOGIC PRO X 10.1

I have a mac Yosemite.

MacBook Pro with Retina display

Posted on Dec 21, 2014 4:07 PM

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Dec 22, 2014 5:25 PM in response to adamtrilling

You connect the Ultralite to your Mac..... installing the latest drivers for it found here....


http://cdn-data.motu.com/downloads/audio/MAI_Mac_64254.zip


Then you connect the Midi out of your Krome to the Midi in of your Ultralite and the Midi In of your Krome to the Midi out of the Ultralite using midi cables...


Turn off Local Control in the Krome's settings... This stops you getting a midi loop resulting in two notes for every one you play..


if you want to play the Krome in standalone mode without Logic running you will need to turn Logic Control back on again....


Next you connect the audio outs L&R from your Krome to Inputs 3-4 of the Utralites (Input 1 on the Ultralite is a mic input hence the need to use 3+4 instead)


Read the user guide to the Ultralite about how to use the CueMix FX utility which is Motu's own mixer if needed... to set correct audio levels and stereo panning for everything.


Now in Logic's Audio preferences you select Input as Motu Ultralite and Output as Internal Speakers...


Load a software instrument into an Instrument track in Logic


Play notes on Keyboard


You should hear the Software Instrument play....via your Mac's Speakers....


if you do, everything is working correctly.


If you don't check all connections to make sure you have the correct Midi in/outs plugged in....


Now follow that tutorial video I linked to earlier in this thread to play, hear and record your Krome via Logic.,..


Let us know how you get on!


I know this might sound a little complicated at first.. but its much easier to do than to try and explain how to do it all.. I promise...:)

Dec 24, 2014 2:45 PM in response to The Art Of Sound

So I bought a tascam 1800 and it arrived today. I appear to be missing a vital cable which would connect my krome to my audio interfce (the tascam) .

What I have --- 1 double headed midi cable. I have this running from my krome output to my tascam input. This appears to be doing nothing (do I need two?)

--- firewire to usb (connection from tascam to my computer)

What I don't have --- XLR cables. Should I get an XLR to midi cable? Does that exist/is it what I need to get my krome working as a software instrument?


Dec 24, 2014 3:21 PM in response to adamtrilling

Ok.. first of all you bought a USB2 audio interface... which I don't recommend... That's why I recommended the Ultralite.. because it has FW800 (Firewire) ports.... (which you can either connect to your computer via a FW800 port on your Mac or if your Mac doesn't have one.. via a FW800 to Thunderbolt adaptor to the Thunderbolt port on your Mac...) and USB2 only audio devices are known to often have issues every time OS X is updated....


Secondly you bought Tascam.... and Tascam have had all kinds of issues in the past, again, every time OS X is updated... with their drivers not being updated in a timely manner if at all.


The good news is your Tascam is one of their models that has Yosemite compatibility so at least it should work for now...


So anyhow..


You need two midi cables... like theses..


http://www.amazon.com/Hosa-Mid-310-Black-Midi-cable/dp/B000068NTZ/ref=sr_1_1?ie= UTF8&qid=1419463031&sr=8-1&keywords=Midi+cables


...and two (1/4 inch to 1/4inch ) audio cables... like these..


http://www.amazon.com/Hosa-Cable-CPP202-Dual-Inch/dp/B000068O1B/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UT F8&qid=1419462941&sr=8-1&keywords=1%2F4+inch+cables


Note: You do not want Balanced 1/4 inch cables...


You use the two midi cables to connect Tascam's Midi out to Krone's Midi in and Tascam's Midi in to Krone's Midi out


You use the two audio cables to connect Tascam input 9 to Krone's Output L and Tascam's Input 10 to Krone's Output R with both the Line in/Guitar selector buttons in the OUT position on the Tascam


The other inputs are for Mics... and balanced input/outputs which you probably wont use.... unless you do a lot of recording with Mics.....


That should get you started at least....

Dec 24, 2014 5:14 PM in response to adamtrilling


What I don't have --- XLR cables. Should I get an XLR to midi cable? Does that exist/is it what I need to get my krome working as a software instrument?



Just to add, you must rid yourself of the idea that MIDI and audio are connected in any way. The type of cable you describe above is MIDI to audio. The audio outputs, the ones your speakers are currently plugged into are routed to the audio interface. There is no magic bullet, work and understanding are required.

Dec 27, 2014 11:36 AM in response to Pancenter

Got the tascam. Still having a problem

For example: I record a German Dark Grand from my Krome. I can now (unlike before) record and playback the German Grand in Logic. I still cant share/bounce the track. There's no audio


When I make a second instrument track and choose a different instrument (a synth for instance) Logic overwrites the german grand notes into all synth notes.


I am unable to layer tracks.


Also - bonus problem : the automated drums which come with the korg don't save on record. If you guys know how to fix that too, bless you.

Dec 27, 2014 11:36 AM in response to The Art Of Sound

Got the tascam. Still having a problem

For example: I record a German Dark Grand from my Krome. I can now (unlike before) record and playback the German Grand in Logic. I still cant share/bounce the track. There's no audio


When I make a second instrument track and choose a different instrument (a synth for instance) Logic overwrites the german grand notes into all synth notes.


I am unable to layer tracks.


Also - bonus problem : the automated drums which come with the korg don't save on record. If you guys know how to fix that too, bless you.

Dec 27, 2014 12:01 PM in response to adamtrilling

For example: I record a German Dark Grand from my Krome. I can now (unlike before) record and playback the German Grand in Logic. I still cant share/bounce the track. There's no audio


That is because you are still not grasping that Midi is not Audio.. and vice versa.... Midi is just data sent to either an external Midi instrument like your Krome or an internal Software Instrument Plugin....to play the notes... There is no audio being sent or recorded.


First make sure you wired up everything as i said earlier...


You use the two midi cables to connect Tascam's Midi out to Krone's Midi in and Tascam's Midi in to Krone's Midi out


You use the two audio cables to connect Tascam input 9 to Krone's Output L and Tascam's Input 10 to Krone's Output R with both the Line in/Guitar selector buttons in the OUT position on the Tascam


What you want to do is...


Use the External Instrument tracks type.... and Record the output of your Krome as an Audio file.. then when you change sounds on your krome, you won't loose the Piano sound you just recorded..


Watch the video I linked to earlier about how to record an external instrument again.. and follow carefully what he does....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_L5DUBE3AQ

Dec 27, 2014 12:23 PM in response to The Art Of Sound

Before you do the above.. Dop the following to test you have the Audio side set up correctly...


First...


Go to Logic Pro's preferences.. Advanced tab.. and turn on all of the advanced features.. Now Logic will work in the full "Logic Pro" mode with all features enabled... And not the heavily cut down "GarageBand Pro" mode... which is very limited in what it can do.


Next...


Go to Logic Pro X's preferences > Audio....


User uploaded file


Where I have highlighted in Red.... make sure you select your Tascam...


For Output.. choose Built In Output or Internal Speakers..... if that is what it offers...


Make sure the other settings shown in my prefs matches yours..


Now.. create a new project in Logic Pro...


Next... create an Audio track


User uploaded file


Make sure you have clicked on Audio as shown in the Green Box


if you don't see the lower options... in that screen.. click on the little Details triangle as shown in the Blue Box...


In the Red Box... (Input) choose Inputs 9 & 10 (Your Tascam's inputs where you have plugged in the cables carrying audio from your Krome's Audio Outputs)


In the Output as shown in the Yellow Box.. Select Output 1 & 2 ... It should automatically do that for you...)


Make sure you check the other options as shown......


Don't worry about my input/output devices as I have a different interface... Your input device should show your Tascam and your Output device should show Internal Output or Built In Speakers...


Now make sure your audio track is selected... and the R Button is Red.... (ready to record...)


It may ask you for a file name.. give it one.. like Test for example...


Play notes on your Krome and you should hear sound coming out of your Mac's speakers.... if you do.. then you have successfully set up the audio side of things..


If you don't then either.. you have not followed all my steps or.. you have not connected the audio cables between the krone and your Tascam correctly as I explained earlier...


If all is well then....


You could then start recording in Logic and Logic will record the audio output from your Krone into an Audio track.... Just like if you were singing into a Mic or playing a Guitar.... This is manual.. or non midi recording....


Test it and see.....

MIDI issues with LOGIC PRO X and KORG synthesizer

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