iCloud drive

Don't know what you're missing but I have been using this system for 6 years now (since it was SharpCast) and I have no issues opening Word files or saving them, only Pages/Numbers (new version) files don't work, but they don't work almost everywhere.

Csound1 wrote:

Pages 5 files don't work (not even for email transmission) and as I said I gave up on Pages already. Use an earlier version of Pages or stick to iCloud.

But if you are using anything other than the latest versions of Pages, Numbers or Keynote do this.

Pages files email just fine for me, I'm not sure if things have changed and you haven't tried recently or if there is something different about your service provider. Pages also suits my purposes just fine, indeed not only is it just fine it's preferable because it doesn't contain a whole bunch of bloat that other similar apps do. Anyway, aside from the pages issue in sugar sync, numbers doesn't seem to have this problem, so there doesn't seem to be any reason not to provide instructions for numbers, your instructions above don't work, the edited document is saved to my iCloud numbers folder but the original on sugar sync is unchanged.

However I followed your instructions with Word. I had no problem getting to the part where I open it in word (although at this point it's already taken several more steps than pages and iCloud) and it opens it as a read only document and invites me to duplicate it, upon duplicating the document it then invites me to save it somewhere, but the list of places I can save it doesn't include sugar sync, perhaps you can help here, or is word another app I can't use with sugar sync.

I also don't seem to be able to save documents from other applications either to sugar sync on my mobile, I use pdf expert for pdf's but don't seem to be able to save documents from that app or Adobe Acrobat reader.

To be honest I'm a little confused by all this, I was under the impression when we discussed this last time that you had synced pages documents yourself with sugar sync, even sugar sync help files tell me I have to use documents to go premium or I'm stuck with emailing my changes to myself and then having to move them manually in sugar sync and remember to delete the outdated original too.

Csound1 wrote:

Winston Churchill wrote:

Csound1 wrote:

But it is a poor solution, even just as unsynchronized storage. DropBox or Copy or iDrive would all be better.

In what way, they seem exactly the same to me so far as working from a computer is concerned.

Excepting that in my case I also have an iPad and none of those services work as well as iCloud drive with that.

I might be willing to exclude sugar sync from that depending on whether I get step by step instructions from you and can successfully save my pages document back to it, I'm downloading sugar sync now.

The only way I know of is to avoid the Pages 5 file format, If I was stuck with Pages 5 I would use the xlsx format. .Pages is now a joke.

Or stick to Apples house.

I think you might be answering a different question there.

In what way is (say) dropbox's browser based access to your files better than iClouds.

It ignores iClouds creation of app folders to put app data in.

But I do not recomend DropBox either. For the record. If you want data storage for apps it will depend on the apps, for backup, iDrive, if you want synchronisation, SugarSync. If you use iWork apps, iCloud. For an online non specific storage space I have no suggestions, I keep enough space on local drives for everything I keep, online or not.

No recommendation can be made without reference to the manner of use.

Thanks!

So just moving a file from ICD immediately erases its mirror?

My 768Gb SSD (mid 2012 rMBP) still has 150Gb to spare but as it drops below 85Gb, performance begins to rapidly diminish. Under 50Gb left in the tank its pretty much unworkable.

Thinking ICD functioned like my Time Machine, I moved 100Gb+ over yesterday before realizing it doesn't.

Reading through this thread, I knew I now had 100Gb of copied files somewhere on my SSD, with no idea how they functioned, or where to find them. Obviously, I worried that moving the originals back would simply add another 100Gb locally, which would slow my machine to an absolute crawl, if it fit at all.

Trying to move, say, the last 50Gb of original files back, with maybe 60Gb let in the tank would likely take all day at best, but if I actually only had 40Gb left (with 50Gb to move), I'd be lucky if the external drive needed for the overrun even mounted!

Thankfully, however, I needn't worry about that any longer (according to your post, but it also makes sense), and I can simply move the files back.

Looks like I'll be sticking with external drives from now on.

Csound1 wrote:

It ignores iClouds creation of app folders to put app data in.

I'll assume that not answering the actual questions being asked means you don't actually have an answer.

whaletail935 wrote:

Thanks!

So just moving a file from ICD immediately erases its mirror?

Yes, that's correct. But I couldn't say for sure that there isn't a small moment when they are both there.

That is one of the things i do not like about iCloud Drive, on first creation it had about 7 folders (preview, textedit, pages etc) pre made.

I prefer to choose the folders I want to use for myself. I have also had issues opening Pages/Numbers files in the web version and then reopening them in the local version.

If that is not the answer you want let me know.

That is one of the things i do not like about iCloud Drive, on first creation it had about 7 folders (preview, textedit, pages etc) pre made.

You can simply ignore those folders, I don't see how that makes it a poor solution though. Whilst unwanted folders don't appear to be the end of the world to me both sugar sync and dropbox suffer from them too. Sugar sync turns many of my documents into unwanted folders and dropbox has those apps and upload folders I didn't ask for.

I prefer to choose the folders I want to use for myself.

In what way are you unable to do that with iCloud.

I have also had issues opening Pages/Numbers files in the web version and then reopening them in the local version.

I haven't, although admittedly I haven't used it beyond investigating purposes. However accepting you have had issues using pages online, it isn't a feature offered by annoys the other service anyway so shouldn't be part of a comparison

If that is not the answer you want let me know.

Not exactly the answer I expected, if you recall you said "But it is a poor solution, even just as unsynchronized storage. DropBox or Copy or iDrive would all be better", I'd expected you to explain why they are better. The first part of your response is nothing more than a minor niggle with similar counterparts in other services, it doesn't affect how it functions when comparing as online storage, the second part it isn't valid and in the third it's debatable whether your experience is representative of pages online but isn't a feature of the alternatives in any case.

I don't believe any of the services (including iCloud) has any advantage over another when it comes to accessing your files via a web browser.

However the answer that I was really looking forward to at this stage are those steps for keeping up to date edited pages documents (and now word documents too) from your mobile device in sugar sync. If sugar sync only works if you are prepared to restrict yourself to one somewhat obscure app as it appears to do to me at the moment then it doesn't even seem as useful as dropbox never mind iCloud.

I know I can ignore them but I prefer not having to.

As to why they are better when used as unsynchronised storage? small things, the folders for one but as I have no use for unsynchronised storage (other than for backup) I haven't looked in depth.

I'm not sure I see ignoring unwanted folders in DropBox and Sugar Sync any different than ignoring them in iCloud, but if whatever the difference is makes these apps better for you then who am I to disagree.

Never had any unwanted folders in SugarSync, and don't use Dropbox so no comment on that one.

I posted an image with some in earlier, they are created because sugar sync doesn't know how to handle pages documents. I don't think it's as smart as dropbox in that respect because dropbox has no problem with pages documents, but of course dropbox has it's own unwanted folders.

Winston Churchill wrote:

I posted an image with some in earlier, they are created because sugar sync doesn't know how to handle pages documents.

Pages 5.5.1 document in SugarSync file manager

Winninote.pages open in SugarSync

So I have to say that I get what I expect, you however get something less.

Is this an old version of SugarSync (we are at 3.307)

So I have to say that I get what I expect, you however get something less.

Is this an old version of SugarSync (we are at 3.307)

So where are you currently on editing and syncing Pages documents, some time ago you said you had successfully done this, earlier today you said it wasn't possible because Pages 5 was broken, now you have Pages documents displaying correctly in Sugar Sync (albeit by working around the issue I pointed out by sharing a folder instead of using the Sugar Sync folder 😉) is it possible to edit it and keep it up to date and if so what are those steps.