iCloud drive

This article may answer your questons if your are running yosemite and IOS8

http://support.apple.com/kb/PH18987?viewlocale=en_US

There are many versions of Pages, read the post more carefully. I sync'd the old version of Pages, I didn't bother with the new Pages. (because of Pages itself rather than iCloud) but If you use Pages use iCloud.

The reports of problems with the file format are rife in the Pages forum, Google Drive, Box and even iCloud itself are cited as having problems opening files, I have seen the structure you posted from SS on your phone, but in Pages, on a Mac. Various versions of Pages can't even open each others files. I doubt I'll be using it for anything serious at all.

I have not tried to sync a Pages 5 file with Sugarsync until today, and it worked (see pictures) but Pages leaves no easy way to put it back

I'm not entirely convinced it was possible to edit and sync pages documents back when we first discussed it either, I still have an old iPad with an early version of pages on, granted I don't have sugar sync installed on it but the options for sharing from this older version of pages are less, not more than the current version (for example there's no option to save to dropbox on the old version)

However my point is more than iCloud being the best choice if you use iWork, I think that for many (but obviously not all) it will be the best choice if you use any documents on a mobile a lot. When it comes to syncing and editing documents between devices, it's really quite simple, the app that opens and edits the documents has to be built to support the service (or the service has to be able to inject a save to option into other apps like dropbox does) and there are (or appear to me) far more built with iCloud support than there are with sugar sync support.

Apparently (according to sugar sync themselves) it's just documents to go premium (and the document types it supports) that has support for sugar sync (and incidentally it has the same support for iCloud), I might be wrong but I don't think there's any mobile apps for movie editing, producing floor plans or creating sketches that support sugar sync such as the ones I use with iCloud, if you are aware of any let me know.

There are also more steps involved in editing and saving documents on your mobile via sugar sync than there is using iCloud, enough to make it quite a chore if you use it a lot. I'd agree with you without reservation that iCloud doesn't come close to the features that sugar sync has for syncing between computers, but not when you use a mobile a lot.

Please take a better look.

https://www.sugarsync.com/partners/

I am surprised that you could only find one, perhaps a search issue?

Then Update to the latest version of SugarSync and check it properly, using an old version tells you how it once was, not how it is now (I assume that you paid for and opened an account in order to test)

If you want to compare like for like (temporally) we can use an old version of iCloud if you prefer.

And Pages is your choice, not mine. Use iCloud, Apples house is the best place for Apples toys.

This is one of many Pages of problems with Pages, with or without iCloud.

I can duplicate 2 of the many issues, either one of which is more than enough to keep me away from Pages. Numbers simply does not have compatibility with Excel (beyond the basic spreadsheet) so is useless for my needs. So that makes iCloud storage unattractive.

Winston Churchill wrote:

I posted an image with some in earlier, they are created because sugar sync doesn't know how to handle pages documents. I don't think it's as smart as dropbox in that respect because dropbox has no problem with pages documents, but of course dropbox has it's own unwanted folders.

Those are the folders contained in a Pages file "package" they are not in any way unwanted, but it appears that you are using an old version of SugarSync, update to the current version and Pages files are recognised correctly.

As shown here or maybe not, don't seem to be able to link to a post directly today. ?

Fixed.

I am surprised that you could only find one, perhaps a search issue?

To be fair to sugar sync I mentioned good reader earlier. But, no not a search issue, I just limited the list to those that actually did what you said sugar sync does and facilitates editing and updating on both mobile and desktop through a simple 'save to' option and didn't include things like uploading via email, iTunes sharing or the like or have nothing to do with syncing documents between my mobile and a desktop whatsoever. I can't say I've checked everyone, but did enough to get fed up looking.

As an example take pdf expert since I use it...

Nice access to my pdf perfect folder on iCloud don't you think, very Apple like and convenient

as well as the rest of my iCloud drive file structure, I get chance to select and file documents to/from my own folders and ignore those that some deem as unwanted.

and look it even has support for dropbox, not quite as intuitive though, it involves a few more steps.

but what about sugar sync, didn't you link to a page that said sugar sync was supported to, let's take a look at that shall we...

Oooh, after some careful reading we seem to have the usual thing, we can get, but can't put. Not quite 'save as' is it 😉

And. What no floor plans, how disappointing. 😮

This is one of many Pages of problems with Pages, with or without iCloud.

Ahh the old "must be a problem with that, I saw loads of problems on their support forum". 😉

Those are the folders contained in a Pages file "package" they are not in any way unwanted, but it appears that you are using an old version of SugarSync, update to the current version and Pages files are recognised correctly.

They are most certainly unwanted, you can't do a thing with them, they have no value or use whatsoever. And for the third time, no not an old version, I'm using the same one as you, you just chose to ignore the problem by using shared folders instead, I want to use a my sugar sync folder, when I do it breaks my pages document.

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Enjoyed playing the game for a while, going to do something useful now, give me a nudge when you manage to remember how one edits and saves a pages document, no rush I've gotten quite used to asking and waiting and waiting some more for the steps involved. 😉

And yet I have no problems with Pages files, yet another reminder that consistency is lacking somewhere in Pages and it's 'packaged' file format.

I don't know why Pages files display in package open format for you, but it does not happen for me.

But as I keep saying, I use SugarSync (and iCloud) only as a synchronised services using just about anything but Pages/Numbers/Knote. If Pages is your focus don't use SugarSync.

If I had a need for unsynchronised storage it would only be for backup, and iCloud is no good at that either (although if mounted as syncronised drive it is an excellebnt choice.

I view unsynchronised storage much as I did Betamax.

Goodreader claim full support for SugarSync, if they don't actually support it shame on them for making the claim.

I have no idea why there is this discrepancy with sugar sync. I thought I knew yesterday, all shared folders didn't break pages but the my sugar sync folder did, today they all break. Aghh well not to worry, I have drop box which has no problem with pages files as does iCloud drive, which just leaves sugar sync with the problem. 😉

You have it the wrong way around, good reader (I understand) does have “save as” support, it's the others that don't.

I use Documents to Go, have done for years. It has 'save as' capability and a suite of MS Office compatible apps.

Exactly which version of Pages created the file, I can not duplicate your findings. I get a normal file. But there have been a number of variants lately, some of which are even incompatible with other versions of Pages.

Since it's about the only app sugar sync clearly state as 'save as' I gathered that's what you must use.

Pages 5.5.1, I don't see how it's pages, they are the very same documents that didn't break for me yesterday.

I can open any version of pages either directly or by agreeing to update much older files, that's not unusual and certainly doesn't constitute incompatible.

At our meeting you said you keep your systems clean and uncluttered, an approach I think is commendable. If you take that approach with pages and OS's it all just works. Many of these people having issues are the ones that keep 12 different versions of pages just in case and 37 cloned OS's that they boot into for some strange reason from time to time and a whole draw full of haxies to boot.

Winston Churchill wrote:

Since it's about the only app sugar sync clearly state as 'save as' I gathered that's what you must use.

Pages 5.5.1, I don't see how it's pages, they are the very same documents that didn't break for me yesterday.

But they did today, that is the kind of thing that would bother me.

I don't use the Apple trio at all, so there is no compelling reason to use iCloud for data storage (except that it's cheaper now) the other services work well to very well. And as my main objection to all forms of synchronized storage (SugarSync excepted) is that that you must conform to a different workflow as far as saving and retrieving files I don't find it useful at all, it's just extra steps.

On a related topic, what happens if let's say I have 500GB worth of files in iCloud Drive, but my mac has only 128GB of space? Will iCloud Drive only create shadow copies of my most used files and links for the rest? Will it just give me an error?