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Where are photo file names?

I've "titled" many, many photos in iPhoto by changing the filename (e.g. "DSC_2254" --> "On vacation in Hawaii"), but there appears to be no option in Photos to show the filename. So none of my "titles" appear. Am I missing something?

iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2014), OS X Yosemite (10.10.3)

Posted on Apr 9, 2015 7:56 AM

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Posted on Apr 11, 2015 5:41 PM

That is an idea.


I experimented a bit, and with Apple Script we could make it a bit simpler, directly in Photos: This will save the installation of exiftool and the necessity to export the files. This way the lossless workflow will be preserved.


Create an Automator action, that executes an Apple Script to change the titles to the filename, if the title is empty:


The Apple Script:


on run {input, parameters}

tell application "Photos"

activate

set imageSel to (get selection)

if imageSel is {} then

error "Please select an image."

else

repeat with im in imageSel

set title to the name of im

if not (exists (title)) then

set the name of im to the filename of im

end if

end repeat

end if

end tell

return input

end run

Launch Automator, create a new service, and drag a "Run Apple Script" action into the workflow.

Copy and paste the text above into the "Run Apple Script" action to replace the default text in the action.

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Save this workflow with a suitable name. It will be installed in the services.


  • Now launch Photos and select a few test images.
  • Open the "Photos Menu > Services".
  • The service should be shown in the menu - I saved my version as "filename2title".
  • Select the service to let it run. When you click the selected photos again, the titles should change.


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After the Automator action completed:

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282 replies

Nov 1, 2015 7:54 AM in response to marianfromsugar land

marianfromsugar land - I can totally understand the frustration. You can get the file names to show up under the image using the automator script that Leonie posted. If you accidentally batch changed the titles (like I did), the script will have to be tweaked a little, and that tweak is also documented in Leonie's post. If you have problems post again with specifics and I'm sure people will help. Or you could start another topic.


I think the new Photos app and what Apple is trying to do with family sharing and syncing across iCloud is really cool and kind of ground breaking. It has become a new Photo Distribution platform for sharing.


That being said, in my opinion, it just doesn't have the horse power right now to be a serious alternative to a DAM like Aperture. Hopefully over time it will. Remember - this app is not even a year old - it is very young in it's development. I am going back to Aperture and will wait another year or so to see if Photos gets better. If not I'll move to another DAM. In the mean time I'm going to explore using Photos for finished projects only to share with my family over iCloud. That's the real strength of Photos.

Nov 1, 2015 8:02 AM in response to gno2

what do you mean by "batch changed" when using the script? could you actually post the script i need to use in your reply? here is the one i have been trying to use and i get and error. also when i go to photos, services, the only choice is "service preferences". the script in there is already "checked". so not sure what i am doing wrong!!


on run {input, parameters}

tell application "Photos"

activate

set imageSel to (get selection)

if imageSel is {} then

error "Please select an image."

else

repeat with im in imageSel

set title to the name of im

if not (exists (title)) then

set the name of im to the filename of im

end if

end repeat

end if

end tell

end run

Nov 1, 2015 12:40 PM in response to R C-R

This problem has been an issue for many users, and is the topic of several long threads, like this one. Apple had many useful features in iPhoto (such as copy file names to photo titles, which it did automatically). Most of those features were removed from Photos, and replaced with less useful ones. For example, I want to sort by photo title, which is the same as the file name. Photo does not allow me to copy file names to titles, and only sorts by file date or the date the picture was taken. I have 14,000 photos from film cameras; the photo date does not exist, so Photos sorts by scan date -- less than useless. Users have created scripts, such as the one a few messages ago, that does this job -- it takes about ten lines of code. It would seem an easy feature to add to Photos, but there is no evidence that it has any priority at all. The main reason why I upgraded to El Capitan, is that these discussion threads suggested that Apple would upgrade Photos to include sort options. Well, I upgraded, and no sort options exist.


Copying file names to title names, and providing sort options is not "professional" use, it's basic use. I am grateful to Apple for providing this for free, and would be willing to pay for sorting options, which were included in iPhoto for free. Charge money if you have to, but we really do need a suite of sort options.


This is why this thread is 13 pages long! With all due respect to Apple, sometimes it seems like valid and widespread user needs and suggestions receive no attention for months, years, or perhaps ever. It would not seem difficult to include a 10-20 line script to end these discussions. It's a low-hanging fruit....


Personally, if Photos included a set of sort options, including a "light table" that allows a matrix of photos to be dragged to better locations, and that sort list be used for future "slide shows", Photos would receive 5+++ stars from me. Without it, it's much less. The best option is for anyone interested in this problem to send a feedback note to Apple requesting these sort options. The more feedback, the better -- and maybe, maybe we'll get what iPhoto had.

Nov 1, 2015 1:53 PM in response to alaz0

alaz0 wrote:

Apple had many useful features in iPhoto (such as copy file names to photo titles, which it did automatically).

That isn't quite correct. iPhoto does not automatically copy file names to photo titles. It just automatically displays the file name (less its extension) if the photo's title field is missing. This has caused a lot of confusion over the years, leading many iPhoto users to believe they are the same thing.

Nov 1, 2015 3:11 PM in response to R C-R

Interesting. In prior threads, the idea of displaying vs. copying was missed, or I missed it.... Thank you for the correction! That does explain a few things.


ALSO, I found that I was in error in Photos not sorting by Title - it does, (at least in the current Photos 1.2, El Capitan). In the opening page of Photos, click on an Album name, View, Sort and select sorting by title. My apologies for my frustrations. It was not obvious to me from the Apple instructions.....


Now if I can figure out how to use a photo editor of my choice, I'd be all set.... :-)


- Andy

Nov 29, 2015 1:19 PM in response to léonie

To see the keywords below the thumbnails you could invest into PowerPhotos.


Perhaps that's an answer for me. In my engineering work, I do very little editing of my images. I am more about organization and being able to see the keywords under each thumbnail.


If I'm not interested in editing anything, wouldn't I just launch PowerPhotos to find the image I am after? And NOT use Photos at all?


As you may know, iPhoto HAD the ability to show Keywords under thumbnails for the first 10 years of its existence. Apple eliminated this capability a couple of years ago which prompted me to switch to Aperture. Once again, I am chasing keywords under thumbnails. "Lyn" does this, but I like to stick with Apple stuff whenever possible.

Nov 29, 2015 1:23 PM in response to Ziatron

wouldn't I just launch PowerPhotos to find the image I am after? And NOT use Photos at all?

PowerPhotos is a companion to Photos. You use Photos to create the library, create albums, assign keyword, titles, captions.

Once that is done, you can use PowerPhotos to manage and browse the libraries and move photos between libraries.

Dec 8, 2015 4:45 PM in response to tdavenport

I have the same problem. All the titles for my pictures in iPhoto, after migrating over to Photo, are now missing and are now "untitled". And I can't even sort my pictures by filename (or am I missing something? someone help! 😟)


Please post if you have any kind of solution. Can I revert back to iPhoto on my mac? I am a new user to Mac so any help is appreciated! Thank you.

Jan 18, 2016 4:41 PM in response to thedatadude

I'm an Aperture user and I've been struggling with this as well and finally found a web page that gave me the solution. In Aperture, you basically need to do a Batch Change to copy the Version Name to the Title field. Photos for Mac only recognizes Titles. In Aperture, Title is an obscure little used field. Running an Apple Script I found on the attached webpage causes the Version Name you currently have to appear in the Title field in the Info panel in Aperture. When that is done and you migrate to Photos, and voila, the title will appear in Photos. I have never run an Apple Script before and I was initially reluctant to go down that path, but it was surprisingly easy if you follow the instructions on the web page. Here's the web page to cut and paste into your browser:


https://photoapps.expert/tips/2014/8/1/applescript-copy-aperture-version-name-ti tle-field#.Vp15GhaJXZE

Feb 17, 2016 8:33 AM in response to NMJones

I'm hoping this subject fits in here: when scrolling through "All Photos" some of my photos display file names (and I don't mean titles) and some don't, even though they show up in the info panel. What's going on? Also when scrolling through "All Photos" the month & year would show up, a feature in iphoto that seems to have disappeared. I must say Photos has taken 0 steps forward and 3 steps backwards with this one.

Feb 17, 2016 8:46 AM in response to nilesk

nilesk wrote:


I'm hoping this subject fits in here: when scrolling through "All Photos" some of my photos display file names (and I don't mean titles) and some don't, even though they show up in the info panel. What's going on? Also when scrolling through "All Photos" the month & year would show up, a feature in iphoto that seems to have disappeared. I must say Photos has taken 0 steps forward and 3 steps backwards with this one.

You are not seeing file names in all photos as that is not an option - you are seeing titles and if there is a file name in the title it is because some time you have put the file name into the title - the only place you can see file names in Photos is in the info window - in all photos you can only see the title - and file names have no value anyway since you never use them with photos


LN

Mar 3, 2016 6:28 AM in response to Washington Apples

I have exactly the same issue as Washington Apples... I have all the view metadata selections clicked on and yet Title shows up "untitled". I haven't even titled my photo's I have left them with the original file info from the photo. And as per WA's issue none of these file names have been imported into Photo's. Ugly bug if indeed that's what it is... Big error...

Mar 3, 2016 7:10 AM in response to GSW1

I haven't even titled my photo's I have left them with the original file info from the photo.

Photos does not use the filename as the title by default. It will show any title that you add manually. You can see the filenames in the Info panel. It was Apple's design decision treat the filename differently from a user added title.

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