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GPS data not available to apps after iOS 8.3 update

I'm using a Wi-Fi only iPad with remote GPS connected via bluetooth (Bad Elf GPS Pro). Following update to 8.3, the GPS position data from the Bad Elf receiver is not available to other apps on the iPad that require it (in particular, Seattle Avionics FlyQ efb). Bad Elf bluetooth connection is good, and the GPS position data is displayed on the iPad using the Bad Elf accessory app, but it appears to not be available to the FlyQ app. Spent hours with tech support and other paths trying to fix this problem, including reloading iOS 8.3 update and applications, and even bought a new Bad Elf GPS receiver. I think this is a fairly common hardware/software combination (Wi-Fi only iPad, Bad Elf GPS, FlyQ app) for private aircraft pilots, so would expect others to be seeing the same problem (unless they were smarter than I was, and delayed updating their OS). Have others experienced this problem or found a solution? Quite frustrating, as navigation is the primary use for my iPad.

iPad (4th gen) Wi-Fi, iOS 8.3

Posted on Apr 12, 2015 5:31 PM

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Posted on Apr 12, 2015 5:57 PM

Actually, it's a bug on all bluetooth GPS devices since iOS 8.3 !

I personally use Garmin Glo and Dual Electronics 150 & 160 and the trouble remains the same.


Bad Elf blog suggest that Apple is aware of the problem and will correct it very soon.

I will believe it when i'll see it...

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Jun 16, 2015 4:02 AM in response to petermac87

Uh yeah. No hole dug here. You statement was wrong. The idea this hardware can't take the old OS's that it shipped with makes no sense. So, you're saying my iPad shipped with 6.1, but it's too new to handle going back to that? That's what you've said.


And sorry I don't have my iOS dates down to the day of their release. Life got in the way of worthless things like that.

Jun 16, 2015 4:09 AM in response to F-16 CHIEF

Ummm...can you actually read?


The hardware in those old phones is too old to run newer iOSs. Simple.


Pete


You replied


Uh yeah. No hole dug here. You statement was wrong. The idea this hardware can't take the old OS's that it shipped with makes no sense. So, you're saying my iPad shipped with 6.1, but it's too new to handle going back to that? That's what you've said.

😕

Best you stay away from adult threads

Cheers

Pete

Jun 19, 2015 3:11 AM in response to petermac87

Please, petermac87, lose that attitude. Or use it somewhere else.


I'm not very keen on arguing with you, but what do you mean with "no research"? Please specify. If you don't know anything about my "research" – don't assume, and don't use that attitude. Ask me instead.


I have reported all my bugs to Apple. And the thing is that nothing ever happens about any of them. App versions come and go, the bugs are obviously here to stay. I started out as a very loyal user in 1995, but for the last years, the bugs have started showing for real, and I'm not really interested in just overseeing Apple flaws anymore. If Apple monitored this forum, they would be picking up lots of valuable user experience. But they don't.

Jun 19, 2015 7:36 AM in response to petermac87

With an approach like that PeterMac, you could get a job with Apple Customer relations - you'd blend right in.


I've been leaving this discussion alone for a while because it is going nowhere . . . slowly.


There is nothing new in the last month or so. Facts are still the same now as they were then. iOS 8.3 is still broken and it seems will never be fixed, just replaced with 8.4 with its own special set of bugs but, hopefully, not ones that affect me.


It is now over *10 weeks* since Apple launched the defective iOS 8.3 on an unsuspecting customer base that believed Apple just got things right. In that 10 weeks, my iPad Mini and Dual XGPS160 have sat idle on a shelf and remain there to this day. If anyone associated with Apple think that is fair enough then they are from a planet that would welcome home Scientologists.


I understand now that Apple is the most successful business on the this planet and has a gob-smacking market cap that is around $750 billion. As I see it, it achieved this sort of success by producing beautifully engineered products that just work. The intuitive nature of the iPad has made IT more accessible to many who probably thought themselves, proudly, as Technophobes - people like my wife. There is no doubt the iPad and iPhone have brought a lot of people into the Apple world, including people like me, who had previously avoided it since Apple left the Apple II+ behind and went all proprietary. I certainly swallowed the hype that Apple was not like Microsoft and actually had bullet proof OS. Clearly, I should have been more circumspect and certainly will be in future. What is happening at Apple? Are they losing the plot? Are they taking their customers for granted like Nokia did? A very slippery slope.


The rule that Apple does not allow OS rollbacks under any circumstances is plain pig-headed and stupid. Yes, it is quite undesirable to have people hanging back in old versions but, if the new version does not work then you need to allow people to step back to a version that does. Yes, when 8.4 comes out, in the fullness of time, it will probably mean I can dust off my iPad Mini and Dual XGPS160 but every time I look at my iPad I'll be reminded that Apple thinks it is OK to eff its customers around for >10 weeks while they dilly dally about with more bells and whistles for the marketing people to bang on about. Surely, a functioning OS is more important that adding more OS functionality?

Jun 19, 2015 8:05 AM in response to PilotDon

Beautifully written! It captures the essence of this fiasco brilliantly. Thank you.


I fear Apple's sheer size will ultimately be their downfall. It has happened to every single company out there that grew to dominate its competitors. Hubris is the first sign that they are standing on the precipice of a looming decline. And the other sign is the CEO taking their eye off the ball and trying to paint the company as a world do-gooder. Note Mr. Cooke's comments over the past few years on social issues. That said, Mr. Jobs would never have allowed something like this to occur. There are tons of stories about how he was a tyrant, but that tyranny led to incredible products, shareholders be ****** - and they never were because those products ultimately paid huge benefits for the shareholders. Mr. Cooke, on the other hand, is no Steve Jobs. And he never will be. And Apple will never be the same, either. Just look at this issue. Does anyone really believe this would have occurred under Steve Jobs?

GPS data not available to apps after iOS 8.3 update

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