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Why are my bounces so quiet?

Every time I bounce a track I've made to MP3, it's half the volume of how it sounds in Logic... I've mixed it, tried normalizing off/on, tried ramping up the output volume/master volume but nothing seems to work. Help please!!

Logic Pro X

Posted on Apr 29, 2015 9:34 AM

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Posted on Apr 30, 2015 3:56 AM

First make sure both your main output and your master fader are at unity (0 dB)

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Are you using any metering, and if so, what does it say? If not, start doing that. You should at first aim for peaks around -3 dBFS, and for an RMS value of between -20 and -12 dBFS (depends on the genre).

If Normalizing is off (it should be) then your bounce will be as loud as you hear it. However, if it sounds quiter in iTunes, then iTunes is NOT set to unity gain (which is simply setting the slider to max)


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Also, getting a mix "commercially" loud is not simple, brainsurgeons and rocketscientists have failed at it.


But here are some valuable resources:

First, the legendary "Lagerfeldt PDF" found here:

http://www.logicprohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=57055

then, these pages:

Holger Lagerfeldt
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/music-computers/468170-loudness-when-producing-m ixing-tips.html

http://www.logicprohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=282853#p282853

Mo Volans

http://music.tutsplus.com/tutorials/how-to-master-a-track-in-15-minutes-or-less- -audio-24

Tarekith:
http://innerportalstudio.com/guides/

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May 11, 2015 5:01 AM in response to Eriksimon

I actually hired an Logic tutor to come to my house for 3 hours, and he said my settings were all fine... I mixed the track slightly differently with his help, and the mix sounds better but still low volume.


I'm going to send my mixes to a master engineer, and see if he can make them sound better. Otherwise I'm switching to Reason!

May 11, 2015 5:10 AM in response to daggers4

daggers4 wrote:


I actually hired an Logic tutor to come to my house for 3 hours, and he said my settings were all fine... I mixed the track slightly differently with his help, and the mix sounds better but still low volume.


I'm going to send my mixes to a master engineer, and see if he can make them sound better. Otherwise I'm switching to Reason!

Read this thread.....

Mastering Volume Question

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May 11, 2015 6:35 AM in response to space dogs

To my knowledge nothing has lived on my head since those pesky lice back in 1971.


Maybe you meant in my head?


Anyhow, newsflash: that's where everybody lives: in the heads of others. Therefore your question is, though meant as an insult, in fact not thought through at all.

Anyway, how come I (and many, many others using Logic Pro) can get mixes as loud as commercial releases then? I am using the same Logic Pro as you are.


Mmm, maybe the difference is that I have read and understood what was in those links I provided ages ago, and tried things out, and picked up advice and tips from people who know what they're doing and why they doing it.


And maybe you are trying to SLAM your tracks into the ears of the listeners. Second newsflash: not a real good approach. Not even for supermassive metal or hardcore black dancehousetriphiphop holes.

May 11, 2015 7:46 AM in response to Eriksimon

Its a shame that you didn't take the time to read what i typed that you quoted. i have sorted the sound level now, it is fine, i am happy with it, enjoying logic and making some great sounds


why are you assuming i am slamming anything into anything? as you are not able to actually anything i've made, why have you made this conclusion? Jealous of my stunning good looks and untold millions in the bank? i thought so!


really, i can't wait to here back from you, but in the likely event that i disengage myself from this thread i'll bid you a good life


Kindest bumcheeks regards


Jack (Mrs)

May 11, 2015 9:07 AM in response to space dogs

space dogs wrote:


Its a shame that you didn't take the time to read what i typed that you quoted.

I quoted bits of "And for those of us who don't live on your head?" and I just checked again, but that is what you wrote. And again I tell you: nobody lives on my head. So that sentence means: everybody. You tried to make somesort of snappironic remark or sarciwitty question or something, but language let you down. Also, it has a high "right back at ya" rating, since you appear to be the sloppier reader here.


If you meant the bit about your newfound levelbliss, it was confusing due to sloppy interpunction. I first read "+3.6 master volume" but I must now assume that you mean that you added 3.6 dB to the Main Output fader? Or even before that? Or to the master fader? Or is that at 0? And is that the master volume at zero (what the meters would tell you), or is it the master fader at zero?

space dogs wrote:

increase output level, +3.6 master volume at 0.0


space dogs wrote:


why are you assuming i am slamming anything into anything?

I did not assume or conclude anything. I contemplated the possibility ("maybe") because you said you wanted your bounces to be as loud as commercial tracks (just naming a few examples of such tracks would also have helped), and after ignoring all the actually useful links I gave you, you finally come up with the "solution" of cranking your main output or master fader (interpunction is a bit unclear in your post about this) to +3.6, or: more than twice as loud as 0, with a risk of clipping your outputs. But you're right, I haven't heard anything, in spite of me asking for that (because it does make it a lot easier to answer these kind of questions). So that's why I could only add the word "maybe". I don't choose these words for nothing, you know.


But, I do admit that I may have, eh, aggregated you and the original poster, daggers4 (I forgot that you were a later piggybacker).


space dogs wrote:


really, i can't wait to here back from you,

The word "I" (as in "me") is always written as a capital.

"Here" means "in this place" and is not a verb. I understand that you figuratively mean "listen", which is spelled "hear".

Example: "I will not be waiting here to hear from you, since you probably will not reply."

That is also not an assumption, but a forecast.

May 11, 2015 11:54 AM in response to The Art Of Sound

The Art Of Sound wrote:


Pancenter wrote:


Learning is one of the great joys of life.


...and becomes a part of one's daily routine.... when trying to achieve almost anything....


🙂


+1


For me it answers one of oldest questions known to man/woman.

Once the intellect has been groomed to teach itself, the emotional/spiritual becomes primary focus.

Why are my bounces so quiet?

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