Stand activity doesn't work with standing desks (oh the irony)

lol. Yeah c'mon, all these nuts are just "standing wrong", right?

So to reach your "Stand goal" you can't just stand, you need to stand and move. To reach your move goal you can't just "move", but you have to move vigorously. Brilliant... 😉

Yes. I'm having the same problem. In addition, I get "stand up" reminders at 10pm. These are serious design flaws. I suspect that this will become a "throw away" App for most people and that there will far better Apps for activity tracking that come out from 3rd parties. Be patient and wait for the developer community to come to the rescue! 🙂

julie78787 wrote:

Your Watch isn't warm to the touch while charging

It is normal for your watch, power adapter and charging cable to become warm when connected to power.

More information:

Check your battery and charge your Apple Watch - Apple Support

julie78787 wrote:

Right, but it should feel COOL to the touch, not WARM.

To reiterate: It is normal for your watch, power adapter and charging cable to become warm when connected to power.

More information:

"Be aware that Apple Watch, its power adapter, and Apple Watch Magnetic Charging Cable warm up when plugged in to a power source."

Keep Apple Watch within acceptable operating temperatures - Apple Support

julie78787 wrote:

Jonathan -

I can't make a post in this entire forum without you responding, and if you're just going to keep responding it would be useful if you made helpful responses.

I am sorry if you have not found my replies helpful. For example (in no particular order):

You asked whether it was possible for the Workout app and Activity app to use a default measure of total calories instead of active calories. I advised that this was not presently possible and advised how you could submit your request to Apple. You marked the response as helpful, replied "thanks for the awesome response!" and confirmed that you had submitted feedback.

You reported that there was an "error in the flights of stairs". I advised that Apple Watch does not presently record Flights Climbed (stairs) and that this was instead tracked by iPhone, which has the necessary sensor. You replied "Thanks! I didn't know which sensor where was doing that calculation".

You asserted that four items of information published by Apple are "INACCURATE statements". I advised you how to submit feedback and/or contact Apple in order to raise your concerns..

You stated^ that "As I have repeatedly stated, I have contacted Apple for all or some of these issues and Apple has yet to respond or acknowledge there is an issue". I have previously advised that feedback is typically a one-way communication. In view of your various reported concerns, I - and others - have also repeatedly suggested that you contact Apple Support or make a Genius Bar reservation with a view to having your watch checked under warranty. I am not aware of you having yet advised that you have done so. To the contrary, you have instead stated, for example "I'm not just going to run off to the Genius Bar until I have a better idea of the scope of the problem", "I'm not the sort of person who runs off to the Genius Bar (or any other support location) every time I have an issue" and "The hardware is perfectly fine".

You advised that you were experiencing issues with the accuracy of active calories. I suggested a number of steps to help improve the accuracy of that estimation. You replied "thanks again for a most awesome response".

You asserted (twice) that Apple Watch should feel cool to the touch whilst charging, rather than warm. I clarified (twice) that it is normal for the watch, power adapter and charing cable to become warm when connected to power, including a link to the associated documentation.

Again, please accept my apologies if you have found any of my replies to be unhelpful.

^ Re: Inaccuracies in Apple Watch for treadmill desk usage

I am having the same sort of problem. My apple watch is giving me a minute for standing when I am actually sitting. Also at times when it reminds me to stand I stand for 5-10minutes and it doesn't alert I have done so. Unfortunately it makes you question the "exercise/activity" function that the watch is supposed to be measuring.

It's not really about sitting versus standing, you need to do a little moving around as well. I usually find that getting up and going to make a cup of coffee or something of that nature is quite adequate in order to achieve my stand goal for that hour.

It's a stand feature, not a stand desk feature, it works exactly how it says it does. I actually think you need to get away from your stand desk too, you are kidding yourself if you think standing still for hours on end is good for you, but that's another matter, this app is nothing to do with stand desks, it's to get you up from sitting and have you move around a little, to that end that's exactly what it does.

I thought it was an issue also until I started to swing my arms more prominently when I walk. Before, I would walk upstairs and back and forth for almost 5 minutes with no "credit". Now, it only takes me about 30 seconds to get the Watch to recognize it...and it's because I started to swing my arms more wildly as I walk when I'm prompted to stand.

"I suspect that this will become a "throw away" App for most people"

Not me. I find it helpful as I tend to get too absorbed at my sitting desk and the reminder to stand up and walk around is helpful, and hopefully healthful.

George

Yeah, also have this problem. I have a standing desk, too. PLUS, I have a TREADMILL under my desk that I use most of the day.

I'm in motion for hours on end and had to quickly shut off the "Stand Up" feature (and, frankly, most of the other Health features, since it doesn't record any of my steps) because my wrists are on the desk.

Oh well, I'm going to investigate using the Nike pedometer and see if it integrates with the Health app.

(I can't believe I'm replying to this.)

Winston, the point of the Apple Watch's prompt is to try to make the wearer of the watch healthier by encouraging them to be more active.

Standing (even relatively immobile) is better than sitting. (Feel free to read the medical studies.) And, moving around (even on a treadmill) is better than standing.

The users in this post are merely pointing out that the sensors on the Apple Watch can't detect whether your standing or moving if your wrists aren't moving (i.e. on a desk).

Therefore, even those people who are walking miles on a treadmill at a standing desk are getting the same "encouraging" prompt to be more active as those who are sitting like blobs. Therein lies the irony.

Winston, the point of the Apple Watch's prompt is to try to make the wearer of the watch healthier by encouraging them to be more active.

The point of the stand feature is to (exactly as it says on the tin) to make you stand and move around for at least one minute, every hour for 12 hours each day. Why on earth would you think Apple would put up that message if the intention is something different.

Standing (even relatively immobile) is better than sitting. (Feel free to read the medical studies.) And, moving around (even on a treadmill) is better than standing.

That may be true, but Apple are giving you credit for moving around not just for standing, that's how it is (and quite rightly so). I'm sure that sitting at a desk all day is better than lying in bed, how about Apple give you credit for getting out of bed.

The users in this post are merely pointing out that the sensors on the Apple Watch can't detect whether your standing or moving if your wrists aren't moving (i.e. on a desk).

No. Most (but perhaps not all) are wanting to deceive themselves, they want to be given credit for standing. Whilst a standing desk might be a little healthier it's not healthy enough, they need to move.

I very much doubt even sitting at a desk, that your hands aren't moving at all and yes the watch can tell the difference between light movement at a desk and movement due to you moving around. Incidentally I'd be very keen to see anyone move around whilst not moving their wrist because they are on a desk. 😁

Therefore, even those people who are walking miles on a treadmill at a standing desk are getting the same "encouraging" prompt to be more active as those who are sitting like blobs. Therein lies the irony.

No, I believe the irony is that you are happy to say anything without testing it. Spend an hour on a treadmill, you'll find you are given standing credit.

The point of the stand feature is to (exactly as it says on the tin) to make you stand and move around for at least one minute, every hour for 12 hours each day. Why on earth would you think Apple would put up that message if the intention is something different.

There ya go, Winston! I think you finally get the point of this thread: The prompt tells people to "Stand..." when they're already standing. Now you understand! 😁

No. Most (but perhaps not all) are wanting to deceive themselves, they want to be given credit for standing. Whilst a standing desk might be a little healthier it's not healthy enough, they need to move.

No, here is what Apple says in their Apple Watch materials: "Even if you're active part of the day, sitting for long periods has its own health risks." So, follow your own logic. Apple is very specific. They want you to stand (and move around). And, people are saying they're already standing.

(So, maybe you should stop accusing other of deceiving themselves? Sounds like the only one deceiving themselves is you, honestly. But, I wouldn't be so rude and presumptuous to accuse you of that. I mean, I don't even know you. You seem like a nice person.)

No, I believe the irony is that you are happy to say anything without testing it. Spend an hour on a treadmill, you'll find you are given standing credit.

You must have missed my earlier post that stated I work at a standing desk with a treadmill. So, the only one who's saying anything without testing it is you. 😉

Incidentally I'd be very keen to see anyone move around whilst not moving their wrist because they are on a desk. 😁

Do you want me to send you a video from my treadmill desk today? I'll even turn the feature back on so you can see my Apple Watch tell me to "Stand up and move a little for one minute." LOL. 😁