Hub 2000 Modem - Fibe Internet - extending WiFi using Airport Extreme

I have Fibe TV / Internet with Bell - using the Hub 2000 Modem/Router combination. The Hub is in my utility room / furnace room where all the Cat 5 data cable runs come into. The WiFi coverage from the Hub 2000 is all right for the Basement and Main Floor - however, the 2nd floor - not so good. What I want to do is extend the existing Wireless Network that I have set up on my Bell Hub 2000 using the Airport Extreme on the 2nd floor in my office - using the same SSID as already set up on the Bell Hub 2000. My goal is to connect the Hub 2000 using the existing Cat 5 cable drop from the 2nd floor office - plugging one end into the Bell Hub 2000 LAN Port and then the other end into the Airport Extreme WAN port in the 2nd Floor office.


Will this work based on the logic I've mentioned?


Daren

Mac Pro (Late 2013), iOS 8.4

Posted on Jul 15, 2015 12:24 PM

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Posted on Jul 17, 2015 11:30 AM

Thanks Bob and LaPastenague. I finally got it to work. For any of you Bell Fibe customers out there - here's the way to make it work.


The ONLY way to get this to work on the Bell Fibe service using the Home Hub 2000 is to log into the modem, completely turn off both the 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz Wireless Networks. Completely disable. This now makes the Home Hub 2000 a dumb router. Once you save and have confirmed both WiFi networks are disabled - follow the next steps.

1. Hard factory reset the AE [AirPort Extreme, Express]. Do this by inserting a paperclip end into the reset hole on the back side of the AE. While holding the paper clip in the reset hole, plug in the power. Hold the reset for 7-8 seconds-or until you see a rapid flashing amber/yellow light. Then release on the reset while keeping the power cable attached.


The next steps I'm plagiarizing from Bob's previous notes. So credit to Bob for those screen shots.

Connect an Ethernet cable from the hub to the WAN "O" port on the AirPort Extreme. I assume that you have tested the Ethernet cable and it is performing correctly.


2. Click the WiFi icon at the top of the Mac's screen and look for a listing of New AirPort Base Station. Just below that listing, click directly on AirPort Extreme.


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That will get the setup "wizard" up and running. It will take a minute to analyze the network, then present a screen that looks similar to this, except that you will see a picture of the AirPort Extreme.


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**NOTE** - You may want to click "Other Options" button at this point to ensure the "Create a New Network" radio button is selected.

The network you are creating is identical to the 2.4 Ghz Wireless Network you already had on the Home Hub 2000.


Network Name..............Enter in the exact SSID that the Bell hub is using

Base Station Name......Enter a short name that you want to call the AiPort Extreme

Password.....................Enter the wireless network password for the Bell network, which will also be the device password for the AirPort Extreme

Verify............................Enter the password again to Verify


3. Click Next

The following screen will come up asking for your PPPoE information from the ISP.

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Just ignore it - and Click Next.


4. The AE will connect with the router to gather network requirements. After a minute or 2 - it will say it's complete.

**HOWEVER** - You'll notice a red circle with a 3 inside of it. This means there are 3 errors. Click on it to see the errors.

i. is the alert that there is a Double NAT. Just click on the drop down and click "Ignore"

ii. Is the alert/error about PPPoE.


5. Click on the AE Icon then click "Edit" This opens the settings menu. Click on the Wireless Tab at the top. In the connect using drop down menu - it will be already populated with PPPoE. Click the drop down and select DHCP. Then in the lower right of the menu - click "Update". Wait 30 seconds or so. The AE will now show a green light and the AE in the AirPort Utility will show a Green light.


**NOTE** - You must leave the Wireless Networks that were on your Bell Home Hub 2000 always disabled.... never activate again. If you try re-enabling them - it will cause your AE to lose the connectivity for the Wireless Network.


I spent 2 hours on the phone with Apple Support and they were amazing helping me through this. Their similar Telco providing Fibe in the US is AT&T - which is our Bell in Ontario, Canada.


Thanks all for your help. Problem solved.

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Jul 20, 2015 11:38 AM in response to DubbaD

I think you may have misunderstood what I said. As I mentioned above, I must believe that if Apple Support advised you configure the AirPort in a certain way, there must have been a good reason for this based on their experience with other users who have fiber service similar to yours. It may well be that this was the only way that would allow the AirPort to work with your fiber service.


I don't know what Apple Support discussed with you or what other things that they may have asked you to try before arriving at your current setup.

If you want to try a traditional setting of Bridge Mode on the AirPort, I cannot assure you that the AirPort will continue to operate the same way that it is doing now. Changing the settings might very well result in another situation where you are unable to obtain an Internet connection, or the wrong settings present themselves during the setup.....as happened before.


I think it is probably best to leave well enough alone and leave things as is with the knowledge that you have an unconventional type of setup on the AirPort that was likely required with the fiber connection. Fiber is a different kind of animal, and settings that work fine with one fiber supplier often don't work with another. We have a huge learning curve at this point.

Jul 20, 2015 6:51 PM in response to Bob Timmons

Thanks Bob. Yeah, I'm not sure why I was told originally to ignore this error of Double NAT. All the same, end result seems to work the way it should. One question, if I'm in Bridge mode - on the AE - are my LAN ports still accessible / useable? I was under the impression that the LAN ports were automatically disabled in Bridge Mode. Maybe I misunderstood my buddy from work.

Mar 13, 2017 7:15 PM in response to Bob Timmons

Hello,


I ran in to a similar issue to what was described. For context, Home Hub 2000 Bell Fibe internet service but no TV service.


For me, I was able to salvage the Bell Hub 2000 wireless service by configuring my AirPort Time Capsule slightly different. Rather than DHCP mode, I set the AP to Static.


1. On the Home Hub 2000, I set the IP address range to start at 192.168.2.10 to 192.168.2.254

2. I set the AirPort static to 192.68.2.2.

3. set the subnet mask to 255.255.255.0 and

4.the DNS primary to the same as your router; 192.168.2.1


The Router stays in Off (Bridge Mode). Now my time capsule is backing up my Macs in the background as it should be.


At time of writing, AirPort firmware 7.7.8. Both 2.4GHz and 5GHz network available as well as guest. All with same SSID and password as the wireless setting on the Home Hub 2000.


Hope that helps

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