Apple Event: May 7th at 7 am PT

Looks like no one’s replied in a while. To start the conversation again, simply ask a new question.

charger in box?

does iPod touch include a charger in box? or is it an additional cost?

iPod touch

Posted on Jul 27, 2015 6:52 PM

Reply
25 replies

Jul 28, 2015 11:56 AM in response to General Nuisance

General Nuisance wrote:


Well, I thought converting AC to DC is a (perhaps desired) byproduct of the lowering of voltage. I'm no expert, so don't quote me. But I believe the way they lower the power (if I'm not mistaken) is by creating an electric charge with coiled wires. When the alternating current goes through the coiled wire, it creates an electric charge. Depending on how many coils there are in the wire, it can either lower, or increase the voltage (This is also how inductive charging works). I am not sure if it changes to DC through this process, or if that is done separately. Honestly, I didn't think it had to be changed 😁 BTW, can you site some sources? I am really into the whole electricity thing and could probably benefit from some of that stuff. 😉

Correct, you're no expert.


Changing voltage (either way) does not change from AC to DC or vice-versa.

Jul 28, 2015 12:09 PM in response to Csound1

*


Obviously, you did not read the comment I was responding to. And obviously you are not aware of the Laws and Guidelines of Human Logic and Sanity. In section A-113... I found three violations. I'm signing you up for the 10 Step Apple Support Community "Just Common Sense" Program. You can thank me later.


BTW, can you site some sources? I have a hard time believing you know your stuff😕

Jul 28, 2015 3:30 PM in response to General Nuisance

General Nuisance wrote:

...I believe the way they lower the power (if I'm not mistaken) is by creating an electric charge with coiled wires. When the alternating current goes through the coiled wire, it creates an electric charge. Depending on how many coils there are in the wire, it can either lower, or increase the voltage (This is also how inductive charging works). I am not sure if it changes to DC through this process, or if that is done separately.

The sort of old-fashioned power supply you are thinking of has a transformer with two coils, one supplied with mains electricity and the other outputting a different, usually lower, voltage by induction (this is not a 'charge' - a capacitor holds a charge which can be discharged when required - induction only produces an output when there is an input). This is still an alternating voltage so it has to be rectified, usually with a bridge rectifier, to produce a voltage which swings zero to the output peak, rather than going positive and negative. A capacitor is then used to smooth out the peaks and produce DC. This is very primitive - for one thing the output voltage almost doubles when under no load (because the internal resistance - losses in the transformer - is then insignificant compared with the route resistance so the entire voltage is applied to the output rather than its being divided between the route and the internal resistance), so it's normal to use a circuit to regulate it to a constant voltage over a reasonable range of loads.


These are bulky and heat-producing; pretty well all modern power supplies and chargers are switched mode - for a detailed explanation of that please see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switched-mode_power_supply as already suggested above.


You (I think it was you) made a reference to a 'block' fitted to the USB-to-lightning lead. Older iPod leads don't have this, and it's probably a simple ferrite core designed to reduce RF interference picked up by the cable - it has no effect on DC, just damps AC at higher frequencies. It's certainly not a charger.


When connected a computer the voltage from the USB socket charges the device quite slowly. A proper charger is faster and should have a built in facility to detect when charging is complete - probably switching off until the battery has discharged by a couple of percent then picking up again.

Jul 28, 2015 5:00 PM in response to Roger Wilmut1

Ok, thanks. I learned something. But, wait. First of all, what generation of iPod was the original poster referring to? The little adapter I am referring to is about

1"" by 1/2"" by 1/2"", white, and comes with most iPhones. So, if I am getting you, I was right. There is no such thing as a "charger". The "charger" is the USB to lightning and a USB port being used jointly, what ever the USB is coming from. Right? Or am I completely missing the point?

charger in box?

Welcome to Apple Support Community
A forum where Apple customers help each other with their products. Get started with your Apple ID.