El Capitan running slowly?

Vapresto wrote:

In my opinion, the 'contaminated fuel' is El Capitan... I suspect all the testing has been done on sparkly new machines,

I'm running it on hardware dating back to 2009. Seems to be a lot less complaints about El Capitan than any other of the last ten OSXs.

Cheers

Pete

Maybe your Mac was in fine fettle before you upgraded?

The irony of my situation was that I did lots of research before I 'upgraded', as I wanted to continue with Aperture (I am a professional event photographer with over 2 million images in around 100 libraries). So, I waited until a few fellow Aperture users had gone to El Capitan and said Aperture still worked. I also did a lot of Googling and found a few reports of people with older MacBook Pros, with low RAM, finding El Capitan actually sped their machines up...

However, i has killed my MacBook Pro and I can't use it 😟 Right now my main Aperture library is 'Repairing' for the 3rd time this week (and it's only Tuesday)... The repair is 30% complete after 2 hours 😟

Luckily, I kept my iMac at Yosemite and at least I can do my work when I'm in the studio, but I have a funny feeling my laptop won't be another Apple product, when I can stand this no longer...

OK, but just like the contaminated fuel scenario, not ALL cars that hadn't been serviced regularly failed - only some of them, and with 3,000 moving parts, there was no telling which ones being in poor condition were most vulnerable...

I doubt that there are any 2 identical Macs out there (in terms of hardware / software configuration), so there is no telling where the vulnerabilities are. I appreciate this is a nightmare scenario for a software manufacturer, but Apple should have a massive advantage over Microsoft, in that respect, but I believe they have dropped the ball recently (or it really is 'planned obsolescence' - and a Google of that phrase and Apple throws up a huge number of responses 😉 )

I've been on these forums for many years and I am simply saying that there are a lot less issues posted about El Capitan than there were about previous OSXs. Hardware which is having issues will often be caught out with any OS update, be it OS X or Windows or iOS or Android. Believing that an OS will speed up a machine affected by a slow down issue

I also did a lot of Googling and found a few reports of people with older MacBook Pros, with low RAM, finding El Capitan actually sped their machines up...

Is fraught with danger and the issue should be addressed BEFORE attempting an update or upgrade.

But you seem to believe that El Capitan is the most complained about OS on the planet, so I doubt the tens of millions of users with no issues can sway you from that. You may be better changing platforms if restoring your previous system from your backup is not an option.

Cheers

Pete

I also have it running (very well) on an 09 machine.

Mine is a mid 2010 iMac 27".

petermac have you looked outside these forums? When you have websites devoted to the El Capitan issues and a system dubbed "El Crapitan", it's not just a small percent of the users.

bpdesignguy wrote:

Mine is a mid 2010 iMac 27".

petermac have you looked outside these forums? When you have websites devoted to the El Capitan issues and a system dubbed "El Crapitan", it's not just a small percent of the users.

Yes I have and I have seen that there are nowhere near the complaints about it as there were with Yosemite, Mavericks, Mountain Lion, Lion (in particular) Snow Leopard, Leopard etc. You may care to do your Googling on them as well as Windows ME, Vista, XP, 7, 8, 8.1 and 10 and try doing a comparison if statistics interest you so much.

Cheers

Pete

Vapresto wrote:

Maybe your Mac was in fine fettle before you upgraded?

Isn't that as it should be?

From my perspective the difference with El Crapitan is that it is causing complete slowdowns of EVERY App, keystroke, click and cursor movement on affected Macs. Other OS's tend to have specific incompatibilities with specific software / hardware, whereas the El Capitan issue seems to be random, has no 'cure' except formatting and going back to a previous OS.

Vapresto wrote:

From my perspective the difference with El Crapitan is that it is causing complete slowdowns of EVERY App, keystroke, click and cursor movement on affected Macs. Other OS's tend to have specific incompatibilities with specific software / hardware, whereas the El Capitan issue seems to be random, has no 'cure' except formatting and going back to a previous OS.

You really need to give links to back up such generalized claims that this issue you are having is the same as all other affected Macs.

Thanks in advance

Pete

there are nowhere near the complaints about it as there were with Yosemite, Mavericks, Mountain Lion, Lion (in particular) Snow Leopard, Leopard etc.

Just so this doesn't turn into an argument, I hope you guys know myself and others aren't here just to troll and be Mac haters. We like Macs, thats why we use them. But we are very dissatisfied with THIS release as some of us didn't experience the other OS's with problems (my 2010 came with 10.6). The way you describe it those couple OS's I missed out on sound equally as bad, so again why are you so hastily defending Apple???? The argument that the others were worse isn't exactly comforting, no? Doesn't sound like a company making good operating systems to me.

Csound1 wrote:

Vapresto wrote:

Maybe your Mac was in fine fettle before you upgraded?

Isn't that as it should be?

Not necessarily... believe it or not, some people just want to USE computers and don't know or care how to keep them in 'fine fettle'.

I am now a photographer, not a computer technician - I got a Mac because friends and colleagues said they were best and 'just work'...

I used to be in the car industry and cars ALL have a printed service schedule and a service point within a few miles of every car owner, whereas there is no such thing as a 'standard' service to keep your Mac in tip-top condition, as we all have massively differing configurations and jobs they have to do - a car only really has one!!!

I'm going to bow out of this thread now, as the patronising comments aimed at non-geeks are starting to wind me up!

Over and Out...

bpdesignguy wrote:

so again why are you so hastily defending Apple???? The argument that the others were worse isn't exactly comforting, no? Doesn't sound like a company making good operating systems to me.

Because only a tiny percentage of the tens of millions of users have had issues. Many because of poor preparation before upgrading, others with malfunctioning Hardware which comes to light after the strain of an upgrade, others with incompatible of malicious third party bloatware and sometimes there are simply bugs which are picked up and eliminated in ensuing upgrades to the OS X after they have been discovered. It has always been the same with any OS

You really only have two mainstream choices of OS brand. Most have few issues with them. A tiny percentage always will.

Pete

Vapresto wrote:

Csound1 wrote:

Vapresto wrote:

Maybe your Mac was in fine fettle before you upgraded?

Isn't that as it should be?

Not necessarily... believe it or not, some people just want to USE computers and don't know or care how to keep them in 'fine fettle'.

And they would mostly be the users having issues. Being in the Car industry you should be well aware of the importance of keeping your car servicing up to date.

Cheers

Pete

Well if your Mac is not in fine fettle replacing the OS is a very bad idea.