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iCloud Restore for iPhone 6s - Missing Messages/Recent Calls Missing

Day one my wife and I got our new iPhone 6s (with iOS 9.0). We did an iCloud restore from our iPhone 5s with iOS 9.0.1 and it was successful bringing all our data including Messages and Recent Calls. The phones were then updated to iOS 9.0.1. Everything was working fine...


My phone had an issue which ended up getting me a replacement iPhone 6s (iOS 9.0). From here I tried restoring from the past iPhone 6s (with iOS 9.0.1) iCloud restore. Unfortunately, Messages and Recent Calls did not come over from the past iPhone 6s backup and I even tried various of the iPhone 6s time stamped backups. I also updated the new iPhone 6s to 9.0.2 and still no difference with the restore. It wasn't until I reverted back to my iPhone 5s backup (iOS 9.0.1) that it would bring the Messages and Recent Calls over. Note that the inclusion of the Messages and Recent Calls is evident immediately after the initial restart from restore (when the phone starts downloading apps). This has me worried going forth and here is why!


I've done a new backup and a little digging. I've noticed that both my new backup for the iPhone 6s and wife's are both smaller than our iPhone 5s backup was. Example for my device backups: iPhone 5s: 18 GB, iPhone 6s: 17.1 GB. Note that this seems backwards as if there was any difference for whatever reason, I would imagine that it be on the larger resolution device. Also, this difference in size would seem reasonable for not including Messages (includes messages, videos, audio, etc.) and Recent Calls. There may even be other data that this did not bring over as I did not see it benefit in losing years of messages for a week of new data, i.e. I did not research the loss to the full extent.


Has anyone else experienced this issue recently with an iPhone 6s or maybe there is a known issue I just have not stumbled across.

iPhone 6s, iOS 9.0.2

Posted on Oct 3, 2015 5:37 AM

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Posted on Oct 13, 2015 4:28 PM

I Spent 6 hours with the geniuses and no one thinks this is a big issue!!!!


not sure if you noticed, but after a restore where all your messages are gone, if you do get new messages, you will not get notified, they will not be in chronological order, if you get multiple messages, the order doesn't change, and most importantly, if you turn your phone off and back on, all those messages will be erased. (this last part they "fixed" by resting settings)

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Dec 1, 2015 4:29 PM in response to sambasta12

I was also referred to a Sr. Advisor. Changed password to a temp password so the engineers could take a look around.


On a positive note, my call history (appears to be full) restored this afternoon. Suspect it is the magical Apple Engineers at work.


Sr. Advisor informed me that they are aware that this is a wider problem than just a few isolated events. I get the sense it is centered on iCloud backups since every advisor I have spoken to first asks if I have an iTunes backup.


I'm holding out faith that it is being worked on and will be resolved!!


GH


PS - Yes, frustrated as well - but am still considering it a #firstworldproblem.

Dec 2, 2015 5:08 PM in response to gr8_av8r

My Call history has restored even when setting up a device as new.

For me, I think it either saves it to iCloud as a seperate sync (like contacts), or it's syncing with another device you may have on the same iCloud account.

I have my macbook (with Facetime, has a call history), and my iPad (also facetime, has a call history). With my iPhone set to do the wifi calling thing, I believe it's syncing the call history too.


So, sorry to disappoint, but if you have another device you're logged into for Facetime, it's probably syncing from that and isn't Apple fixing something yet..



I'm having the missing data issue too. I've been posting on this thread: Re: ios9 icloud backups missing information

I'm also waiting for engineering feedback, and my iCloud account is in "troubleshooting" mode.

Dec 2, 2015 7:35 PM in response to r-m

Guys Casey did it! Casey from apple support figured out the issue! I had the same problem as everyone else in restoring my messages, phone call log, crashing apps etc and Casey, senior support specialist at apple took the time out to listen and troubleshoot the issue. While having the apple engineer take a look at the software glitch, she told me to restore the iPhone in iTunes to get a new copy of the IOS on the device and then during the Setup, restore the most recent iCloud backup again and voila! it worked! It turns out that the recent iphone 6S replacement devices may have faulty software on them and just re-installing the latest software from apple via itunes will fix the problem so I finally got all my messages, call log, and photos in correct order back 🙂 Hope this works for everyone else! Dont forget to backup your device on itunes as well before you hit restore! Finally the misery is over!

Dec 2, 2015 11:11 PM in response to paganizonda7

I Don't know what was different for you for it to work, but it didn't work for me.

Ive tried it it many times recently and each time is the same result of missing data.


The only way it would work, is if there's a new iOS build they've just released, that has a fix for the issue.. Or they've fixed the broken iCloud backup, and suggesting it's the itunes software download that fixed it.

Dec 3, 2015 3:38 AM in response to r-m

I had emailed my good old buddy Tim Cook a few days ago, and I had a reply from the exec support team. They took over my case from the senior iOS advisor that I'd previously been dealing with.

I've had a couple of calls from them, and information was the same; engineering was looking into it still.


I've had a call this morning to ask me to try again, restore my iCloud backup as there's been some updates and it should be fixed.

I asked what the updates are, and he's told me they've fixed a server issue and the restore should work fine now.

He's suggested I try my most recent backup that I first noticed the issue with (14th November for me).


I'm in work for the next 6-7 hours so can't try until I get home.


Once i try, I'll post back about how it goes.

Dec 3, 2015 4:51 AM in response to iSchack

That was my understanding, that it'd be my backup from mid November and I'd have a gap then, between then and now.

I didn't think to ask, but I'm going to try, if I do a backup tonight based on my current faulty one (so should have everything up to mid-November, plus any health and messages since then), then restore that and see what happens.


It's not clear if it's a server fix for all future restores, or backups, or if it was just a fix for existing broken ones.

So I don't know if backing up this current broken data, will then restore back "fixed"... clear as mud ha.


I'll give a few options a try tonight.

Actually, I'll ring now and ask.

Dec 3, 2015 4:56 AM in response to r-m

On reading your comments I've just tried my last backup (which was 22nd November) - and all seems to be loading fine - call history back, as well as all my messages.


I will now try the back up that I did earlier today and see if my messages and call history (as long as new messages since last back up) are there and let you guys know.....fingers crossed - if not I've only lost a weeks worth of data - not so for some of you

Dec 3, 2015 5:01 AM in response to mcfarm1

Ah great, thanks for trying! Yeah that would be good to see. And whether there's any health data gaps on your backup earlier today, if you could check that once you're done?


I called, but the exec support guy isn't a tech guy so didn't know. He's going to get someone to call me back.

Dec 3, 2015 5:11 AM in response to r-m

So, I was put through to a tech support person about generally backing up and restoring. Stated, without knowledge of the case, that if the issue is fixed then I should be able to backup and restore and have my data.

He'd suggested doing an iTunes backup and restore as "the preferred method" but I know that it won't work.


I'll email the exec support guy with my specific question, and ask him to forward it on to the engineering team for now.

Dec 3, 2015 6:17 AM in response to mcfarm1

Unfortunately I restored the back up I did earlier today and all my old data was missing - so looks like its only fixed the original back up - although now this is working I'm sure there's a workaround using an iTunes backup I would suggest;


restore the old backup and then

backup to itunes

erase phone

restore new back up from icloud

transfer messages from iTunes backup

Backup again!!!!

Dec 3, 2015 6:46 AM in response to mcfarm1

The backup you did earlier today, then restored - did that have any data on it? or was it still all missing, nothing in health app? Also was that backed up to and from iCloud?


Also, your suggested steps - How would you transfer the messages from iTunes backup? A 3rd party tool?

Would that work for Health data (if it's at all retrievable)?

Dec 3, 2015 7:07 AM in response to r-m

Apparently I have read in other threads that your can select your messages etc from iTunes backup directly and then transfer them onto the phone - one of the geeks told me this in the apple store last week. Not entirely sure how it is done though - google should be able to provide a little insight,


Unsure about health data as I don't use it on my iphone.


Apple must be sorting a proper fix where data can be merged I would hope

iCloud Restore for iPhone 6s - Missing Messages/Recent Calls Missing

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