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no cover flow in any program's open or save dialog box

I updated 2 computers to El Capitan and now there is no option for cover flow in the save or open dialog boxes. My adobe products were in cover flow mode at first but when I chose list, I noticed there was no button for cover flow any more. It's there in finder only. Anyone else have this issue? Any idea if this was done for a reason?

iMac, OS X El Capitan (10.11)

Posted on Oct 15, 2015 8:44 AM

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Sep 24, 2016 2:39 PM in response to Craft1

No cover flow when placing images in InDesign - yeah, I noticed it immediately! It is causing me BIG problems. I do newsletters with lots of photos and they often have subtle differences that I can only see when displayed in cover flow. Do software engineers consult DESIGNERS when they toss out things like this? Or do they just assume nobody cares? I am still mad as **** about the elimination of the color keying system. I lose time every day because that system of tiny colored dots is not what I need. Is it impossible for them to give us options?? Grrrrrr.

Oct 4, 2016 8:02 AM in response to Craft1

I am curious. If InDesign is a publishing program, it should benefit publishers. RIGHT?? What idiot decided it would be OK to remove the Cover Flow viewing option when importing images to a document?? I do magazines and newsletters, some have hundreds of photos. Often the photographers give me multiple images of the same subject - some may be slightly out of focus - it is impossible to tell them apart in a thumbnail view. If InDesign is not designed for publishing these days, WHO is using it and are they more important than the rest of us? This is costing me time - AND $$$$$ - per job.


I have been using this program since 1985 (Pagemaker 1.0). I can't remember any other change that made me ANGRY. After 31 years of HAPPY, this is a first.

Oct 4, 2016 8:08 AM in response to WisconsinGurl

You are directing your anger at the wrong place.

This is not something thar InDesign developers decided.

It was a change that Apple made in El Capitan (or perhaps Yosemite already). Try it in other applications and you see they all behave the same way. There are the three views (Icon, List, Column); the fourth (Coverflow), even though it remains in the Finder, disappeared from the Open and Save windows. No idea why.


Send Apple feedback. Be precise and polite (anger does not get much traction). If enough people let them know they want the feature back, there is a better chance the may make it happen.


http://www.apple.com/feedback

Oct 4, 2016 9:02 AM in response to Luis Sequeira1

In El Capitan: Cover flow is available in the finder and every program EXCEPT InDesign. I vented my anger at InDesign - how would I know to do otherwise? Furthermore, I have reported other things directly to Apple that have adversely effected my INCOME and I hear nothing and nothing changes. They don't listen to designers.


I will go directly, once again. But I'm not expecting anything.

Oct 4, 2016 11:22 AM in response to WisconsinGurl

I realize that this is a change that is difficult to understand.

It introduces an inconsistency where things were consistent before.


Regarding sending Apple feedback: they do not reply, but they do take notice.


In the meantime, you can get almost the same result as Coverflow if you use Column Mode with the preview active.


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(I am no designer, and I have only rarely used Coverflow, so I hardly noticed it was missing; but then again I use Column View most of the time)

Oct 4, 2016 11:41 AM in response to Luis Sequeira1

Column view may work for some, but when you have highly complex and deep projects, column view can be maddening, at least for me.


As far as feedback to Apple does, I do not have the same belief that you share. At least in the bug tracking tools they employ, the standard practice is that if duplicate reports come in, they close the duplicates. For almost 15 years, I worked on a seed team, and the number of bugs that professionals found that Apple fixed is so minute to the number of bugs still existing today. I have bugs still in the system that are over 10 years old. Lots of others also dedicated lots of time, resources, energy and belief that the testing Apple asked us all to do would actually matter. The reality was most of us have long since moved on and given up on Apple putting any time into professional user's needs. Many have even switched platforms, in some cases company-wide.


The reality is that Apple cares about 2 things: their image in the mainstream press and their desires for how things work internally. The days when it was about being the best and working out the bugs before release are long gone. If a bug makes it to the mainstream press, it has a shot at being fixed. If it affects the way employees work, it has a shot at being fixed.


Apple, if this ruffles your feathers, then address it. For too many years now, professions feels like they come dead-last in your hierarchy of priorities. You can shove stuff at us that you deigned for you, but you stopped building what we need.


The hardest part of writing posts like this is that many of us know it could be so much better. It not a matter of trying to bash Apple, just to bash Apple. It is in sheer frustration that we know Apple to be far more capable, far more responsive to needs, capable of building things that help us change the world. Now, every chance to stupify things, lessen capabilities, tell us we can only do something their way, they write as gospel.


I want better. I know Apple is capable of better. I am tired of seeing people frustrated by a company that would rather micromanage all of us, rather than give us the tools to be free.


What's the bet this post will be pulled or worse?

Oct 4, 2016 2:38 PM in response to WisconsinGurl

Well, NOW HEAR THIS: column view has changed. When did it change? I have no idea. It never worked for me so I stopped using it ages ago. The width of the columns was fixed. If I clicked a photo, it did not appear large enough to help me choose exactly what I needed. Someone in this thread mentioned using column view, so I gave it a try.


You can pull the window as large as your screen. While the columns to the left stay the same size (which still irritates me because they cut off most of the file names!!), but click on a photo file and the preview shows up in the right column - quite LARGE. While I am not jumping for joy, this may work.


Now, can anyone solve the problem of lost color coding of files? I have been trying to make this "tiny dot" insanity work for me since it was invented and I don't think it ever will.

no cover flow in any program's open or save dialog box

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