Bogus iPad Pro Shipping Info

The first origin scan reported by UPS for my iPad Pro's shipping was <Shenzhen, China 11/14/2015 11:00 P.M.>. Four days (and 8 scans later) it read—<Louisville, KY, United States 11/17/2015 12:50 A.M. Arrival Scan>. But a few hours later it mysterious regressed to <Chek Lap Kok, Hong Kong 11/18/2015 9:28 P.M. Your package is in transit. We're updating plans to schedule your delivery>.


I spent 30 minutes with Apple's chat support trying to get an explanation. Totally. Unsuccessful. The rep said that all the iPad Pros were having troubles with accurate scan with UPS. I didn't buy it because my tracking number showed a predictable progress until Louisville, KY.


Anybody else experiencing problems like this?

Posted on Nov 18, 2015 1:53 PM

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Nov 25, 2015 6:25 AM in response to Cypocryphy

Same for me - chatted last night with Apple - they have no clue - said may be there in 2 days

Chek Lap Kok, Hong Kong11/23/20151:44 A.M.Pkg shipped; delivery being scheduled
11/23/20151:34 A.M.Your package is in transit. We're updating plans to schedule your delivery.
Shenzhen, China11/17/20159:20 P.M.Departure Scan
11/17/20154:00 P.M.Export Scan
11/17/20154:00 P.M.Origin Scan
China11/17/20152:20 A.M.Order Processed: Ready for UPS

Offered to cancel order and let me get one at an Apple Store but no local stored have the Space Gray 128Gb Wifi + ATT

Not the usual customer experience I've had with Apple.

Nov 25, 2015 8:48 PM in response to Redbirdguy

I call B.S. That guy you talked to has no idea. Here's a snippet of a typical UPS contract for carriage. Of course, this is assuming that Apple has a similar arrangement, which it might not. But if it were to have such a specialized, personal contract, it would undoubtedly be more favorable.


As you can see, I highlighted the important statements. Pallets are subject to restrictions, but all these pallets with iPads are undoubtedly being sent by same number and weight on each pallet. If the previous shipments went through without a hitch, then the "missing" iPads should not have any problem at all. Also, this is in regard to each individual pallet—not the overall shipment. This is happening to multiple shipments as can be seen by the diverse UPS tracking time stamps that customers are posting on this forum thread.


Also, why would anyone set it up for the tracking to be a separate occurrence than the actual shipment of the merchandise. That sounds like a recipe for theft.


I don't by these explanations, and I'm really upset now as I still, after two weeks, do not have an estimation for delivery. It's probably going to show up at my house when I'm at work, making me have to go pick it up and waste more of my time. All I know is that it's somewhere out there, lost. I was suppose to have a new one sent to me over night, as I was told. But that has not happened either. Both companies are failing right now.


Note that there are is no mention of overall limits or a quota system, by either weight or number. It is only the weight and size of each individual pallet that must not exceed the restrictions.

UPS Carriage Contract

Conditions of Carriage
This section sets out various restrictions and conditions which apply to the carriage of shipments by UPS. It also explains what the consequences are of the shipper presenting shipments for carriage which do not meet these requirements.

  1. 3.1 Service Restrictions and Conditions

    Shipments must comply with the restrictions in paragraphs ℹ to (v) below.

    The shipper shall be responsible for the accuracy and completeness of the particulars inserted in the Waybill and for ensuring that all shipments set out adequate contact details for the shipper and receiver of the shipment and that they are so packed, marked and labelled, their contents so described and classified and are accompanied by such documentation as may (in each case) be necessary to make them suitable for transportation and to comply with the requirements of the Guide and applicable law. Unless a different service level is clearly selected on the Waybill or other applicable UPS shipping documentation, shipments will be carried under the Express (or Express Freight) service (where available to the selected destination) and all applicable charges will be calculated accordingly.

    The shipper guarantees that all shipments presented for carriage under these terms comply with the restrictions in paragraphs ℹ to (v) above and have been prepared in secure premises, by him (in the case of an individual shipper) or by reliable staff employed by him or (where different) by the party tendering the shipment to UPS and have been protected against unauthorised interference during their preparation, storage and transportation to UPS. UPS relies on this guarantee in accepting any shipment for carriage hereunder.

    1. ℹ Packages must not weigh more than 70 kilograms (or 150 lbs) or exceed 270 centimetres (or 108 inches) in length or a total of 419 centimetres (or 165 inches) in length and girth combined. Pallets are subject to maximum size and weight limits that vary by origin and destination, and that are set out at www.ups.com.

    2. (ii) The value of any package may not exceed the local currency equivalent of USD 50,000. In addition the value of any jewellery or watches, other than costume jewellery or costume watches, in a package shall not exceed the local currency equivalent of USD 500. The value of any pallet may not exceed the local currency equivalent of USD 100,000.
    3. (iii) Shipments must not contain any of the prohibited articles listed in the Guide including (but not limited to) articles of unusual value (such as works of art, antiques, precious stones, stamps, unique items, gold or silver), money or negotiable instruments (such as cheques, bills of exchange, bonds, savings books, pre-paid credit cards, share certificates or other securities), firearms and dangerous goods
    4. (iv) Shipments must not contain goods which might endanger human or animal life or any means of transportation, or which might otherwise taint or damage other goods being transported by UPS, or the carriage, export or import of which is prohibited by applicable law.
    5. (v) Pallets must be palletized, stackable, able to be lifted by forklift, and shrink-wrapped or banded to a skid.
  2. 3.2 Perishable and temperature sensitive goods will be transported provided that the shipper accepts that this is at its risk. UPS does not provide special handling for such shipments.
  3. 3.3 Refusal and Suspension of Carriage
    1. If it comes to the attention of UPS that any shipment does not meet any of the above restrictions or conditions or that any COD amount stated on a COD Waybill exceeds the limits specified in paragraph 8, UPS may refuse to transport the relevant shipment (or any relevant part thereof) and, if carriage is in progress, UPS may suspend carriage and hold the shipment (or any relevant part thereof) to the shipper’s order.

    2. (ii) UPS may also suspend carriage if it cannot effect delivery, if the receiver refuses to accept delivery, if it is unable to effect delivery because of an incorrect address (having used all reasonable means to find the correct address) or because the correct address is found to be in another country from that set out on the shipment or on the Waybill or if it cannot collect amounts due from the receiver on delivery.
    3. (iii) Where UPS is entitled to suspend carriage of a shipment (or any relevant part thereof), it is also entitled to return it to the shipper at its own discretion.


Nov 25, 2015 9:22 PM in response to parkscorner

Apple now gives me a delivery date into the new month -- Dec 1 to 3. They now indicate that the product is in Hong Kong. It all ties in with the theme that UPS is holding the product and given the new projected dates it does seem like Apple exceeded it's contract and the shipments are being held until Dec 1 when they will again start to move. I've had a lot of experiences with shipments and customer relations but this is a new low.

Nov 25, 2015 10:33 PM in response to LJSpock

"it does seem like Apple exceeded it's contract and the shipments are being held"


I just don't think so. If that were the case, it would be something that wouldn't just come as a surprise. This is information that is known beforehand, during the time the orders are placed. UPS would state, and Apple would know, exactly how much can or cannot be shipped at the point of contracting. It would not be something like "whoops, we somehow exceeded our quota . . . our bad." And even if this situation occurs whereby a quota is exceeded, it would be inconceivable that Apple would not organize some other means of meeting its shipping needs, be it ONTRAC, FEDEX or whatever, so that it doesn't have any hiccups.

Nov 27, 2015 5:10 PM in response to brandondhont

Well looks like my ipad is sitting in KY AGAIN. (so they say) I sat on tracking information for a while before calling Apple to see if the UPS status would change and give me a delivery date. It didn't, so I called Apple. The rep there said he did some research and UPS said the ipad was there and it would be delivered in 24 to 48 hours. I asked him that based on what has happened in the past am I really suppose to believe that. He understood why I thought that. ****, If that was remotely true I would think I would have a shipping date????????? Not to mention if they deliver without updating the status how was I going to sign for it. Maybe I should just stay home till its delivered???? The rep blamed it on UPS on scanning bogus information on their tracking in the past. He still couldn't answer why I was told earlier in the week the ipad was in KY. No change since 4 AM guess time will tell!!!!!User uploaded file

Nov 24, 2015 5:02 PM in response to Cypocryphy

Hi there,


For me the opposite happened it seems.


My delivery was scheduled for the 27th and I got mine the 23rd in the UK.


So...I am wondering if somehow a couple of palets did not go to the wrong destination causing a snafu at the customs/transshipping warehouse.

If for example the palet for a later date somehow ended up shipping out first and the first palet got moved to the back of the que...

Nov 24, 2015 6:06 PM in response to januszpa1

This doesn't make any sense to me. I heard that Apple met its quota on shipments for the time being, but it just doesn't seem to make sense. If this is a commercial installment contract between the two companies—which is what it has to be—then the process would be accomplished by apportionment of cost, meaning that UPS would ship those iPads even if there were some kind of quota, charging Apple at the next billing cycle for going over its limit. They would not simply hold onto the merchandise, essentially holding it hostage, until the next shipping cycle for Apple. That's ridiculous. I'm sure Apple contracted against that occurring, knowing it provides for free two-day shipping. It just doesn't make sense, and if this is true, then UPS is to blame and should fear repercussion from Apple.

Nov 20, 2015 6:51 AM in response to parkscorner

finally, an update in the tracking log:


Chek Lap Kok, Hong Kong11/20/20158:25 P.M.Departure Scan


the scheduled delivery info is still "not available at this time", probably safe to assume that there's no chance it gets delivered today, but with any luck, it'll make it to the local UPS distribution center over the weekend for a monday delivery.


this is a terribly pricey item to get such slapdash shipping treatment; pretty disappointed.

Nov 21, 2015 1:58 PM in response to parkscorner

Just got my hands on mine today; it actually arrived yesterday, but I had it shipped to a PO Box that doesn't sort UPS packages until 24 hours after they arrive. I'm also happy many other users on this board got their iPads as well!


While the experience was a bit nerve-wracking, I really like the iPad Pro, and I'm very happy with it. While I still somewhat doubt the whole customs/technical glitch explanation, I do greatly appreciate the professionalism of Apple tech support in their candor, as well as them following up with my case.

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