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Bogus iPad Pro Shipping Info

The first origin scan reported by UPS for my iPad Pro's shipping was <Shenzhen, China 11/14/2015 11:00 P.M.>. Four days (and 8 scans later) it read—<Louisville, KY, United States 11/17/2015 12:50 A.M. Arrival Scan>. But a few hours later it mysterious regressed to <Chek Lap Kok, Hong Kong 11/18/2015 9:28 P.M. Your package is in transit. We're updating plans to schedule your delivery>.


I spent 30 minutes with Apple's chat support trying to get an explanation. Totally. Unsuccessful. The rep said that all the iPad Pros were having troubles with accurate scan with UPS. I didn't buy it because my tracking number showed a predictable progress until Louisville, KY.


Anybody else experiencing problems like this?

Posted on Nov 18, 2015 1:53 PM

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Nov 23, 2015 8:09 PM in response to parkscorner

It is a UPS thing, nothing to do with the iPad Pros. I ordered a 13" MacBook Pro, shipped from china and got the same message. That was originally scheduled for delivery today, but never showed up. If I was to guess, I would say it is the sending UPS facility delayed on the paper work and they made their last update after it was in the US. Either way I am calling tomorrow, this was a business order, so they will give me great service and figure out exactly what is happening.

Nov 24, 2015 12:49 PM in response to januszpa1

thats what they told me also, but that doesn't explain why UPS claimed it was scanned in as arriving in Anchorage and then again in Louisville when obviously it never actual left the far east. UPS even sent me an email that it would be delivered between 11:45- 3:45 yesterday. There may be a backup but it seems like its UPS's problem for false reporting.

Nov 24, 2015 3:34 PM in response to dsmith20639x

Okay. Here's an update on what's going on: Nobody knows on Apple's end. UPS stated that the shipping information was sent before the actual merchandise, as if the latter is somehow separate from the shipping identification/tracking info. My iPad has been siting in Hong Kong for over five days now with no idea when it will arrive, let alone ship. This is after it ostensibly had made its way through the US before mysteriously recrossing the Pacific Ocean, returning to Chek Lap Kok.


Interestingly, I got an e-mail from Apple asking whether I had received my delivery/purchase and that if I have not, to notify it whether I wish to have a refund or a replacement. I called and ordered a replaced, which allegedly is now being shipped as expedited. I still have not received a letter of confirmation about this expedited shipping, so I suppose I'm in a position of having to take the representative's word on this. Again, this doesn't resolve my issue with being able to receive the package as Thanksgiving is coming up, and I will be away.


Anyway, the point being is that I recommend anyone who is still waiting to contact Apple and order an a replacement, shipped at an expedited rate.

Nov 24, 2015 5:02 PM in response to Cypocryphy

Hi there,


For me the opposite happened it seems.


My delivery was scheduled for the 27th and I got mine the 23rd in the UK.


So...I am wondering if somehow a couple of palets did not go to the wrong destination causing a snafu at the customs/transshipping warehouse.

If for example the palet for a later date somehow ended up shipping out first and the first palet got moved to the back of the que...

Nov 24, 2015 6:06 PM in response to januszpa1

This doesn't make any sense to me. I heard that Apple met its quota on shipments for the time being, but it just doesn't seem to make sense. If this is a commercial installment contract between the two companies—which is what it has to be—then the process would be accomplished by apportionment of cost, meaning that UPS would ship those iPads even if there were some kind of quota, charging Apple at the next billing cycle for going over its limit. They would not simply hold onto the merchandise, essentially holding it hostage, until the next shipping cycle for Apple. That's ridiculous. I'm sure Apple contracted against that occurring, knowing it provides for free two-day shipping. It just doesn't make sense, and if this is true, then UPS is to blame and should fear repercussion from Apple.

Nov 24, 2015 7:03 PM in response to parkscorner

My Pro came in today after 9 days in transit via Hong Kong (twice), Anchorage (twice), Louisville (twice), Osaka, Japan (once), and finally to Denver. Regardless of whether the issue is Apple, UPS, or U.S. Customs, it's a strange problem. The UPS tracking scans are pure fiction. But at least it seems to be simply a shipping issue rather than a product issue of any kind.

Nov 24, 2015 8:17 PM in response to parkscorner

Here's what I understand from multiple chats with Apple:

1. A plane or planes arrived in Louisville with iPad Pros on them.

2. The scanning tags that accompany large shipments did not make it off the plane and returned on board to China.

3. The website tracking shows progress to Louisville and then picks up back in China.

4. Apple/UPS released the shipment without having tracking detail. Apple can only project hoped for delivery dates rather than real dates.

5. Some of the units have arrived and some have not.

I happen to have one that has not shown up. Without tracking ability the chances for theft and loss increase geometrically. Apple currently can give me no information where my unit is and have no idea of when it will arrive. When I asked the reasonable question, "At what point will you make restitution?" the answer was "Just wait day-by-day." I personally find this is an unacceptable response by Apple to a problem created by their vendor. Still waiting for my unit.

Nov 25, 2015 6:25 AM in response to Cypocryphy

Same for me - chatted last night with Apple - they have no clue - said may be there in 2 days

Chek Lap Kok, Hong Kong11/23/20151:44 A.M.Pkg shipped; delivery being scheduled
11/23/20151:34 A.M.Your package is in transit. We're updating plans to schedule your delivery.
Shenzhen, China11/17/20159:20 P.M.Departure Scan
11/17/20154:00 P.M.Export Scan
11/17/20154:00 P.M.Origin Scan
China11/17/20152:20 A.M.Order Processed: Ready for UPS

Offered to cancel order and let me get one at an Apple Store but no local stored have the Space Gray 128Gb Wifi + ATT

Not the usual customer experience I've had with Apple.

Nov 25, 2015 7:32 AM in response to parkscorner

I feel better knowing that it's not just me.

LocationDateLocal TimeActivity
Chek Lap Kok, Hong Kong11/23/20151:50 A.M.Pkg shipped; delivery being scheduled
11/23/20151:49 A.M.Your package is in transit. We're updating plans to schedule your delivery.
Louisville, KY, United States11/19/201512:47 A.M.Arrival Scan
Anchorage, AK, United States11/18/20153:19 P.M.Departure Scan
11/18/201512:57 P.M.Arrival Scan
Chek Lap Kok, Hong Kong11/18/20158:54 P.M.Departure Scan
Shenzhen, China11/18/20152:35 P.M.Departure Scan
11/18/201511:30 A.M.Export Scan
11/18/201511:30 A.M.Origin Scan
China11/18/201510:34 P.M.Order Processed: Ready for UPS

UPS chat yesterday offered nothing but scripted answers.

Nov 25, 2015 8:11 PM in response to archimago3116

Just joining the chorus here. I've had the same experience. Online chats with Apple and UPS with no real answers. Apple: it should be delivered. UPS: keep checking the website. I finally called UPS Customer Service and talked and waited until I spoke with a supervisor who told me they had tracking numbers because of the way they worked with Apple but the device was still in an Apple warehouse in Hong Kong due to exceeding a shipment contract.


In the end, while I experienced the Apple support folks as supportive and willing to help solve the problem and UPS as "script readers" I got no real resolution. Apple has "escalated my case" to solve the shipping question and will get back to me in 24-72 hours. I confirmed with the third Apple Support person that I could return the device once it arrived. I found out my local store had one in stock and I went to pick it up today.


Somewhere in the world there is an iPad Pro sitting on a pallet with my name on it. It will get here eventually and I will return it.


Someone messed up with a shipment of iPads and now Apple and UPS are pointing fingers.

Nov 25, 2015 8:48 PM in response to Redbirdguy

I call B.S. That guy you talked to has no idea. Here's a snippet of a typical UPS contract for carriage. Of course, this is assuming that Apple has a similar arrangement, which it might not. But if it were to have such a specialized, personal contract, it would undoubtedly be more favorable.


As you can see, I highlighted the important statements. Pallets are subject to restrictions, but all these pallets with iPads are undoubtedly being sent by same number and weight on each pallet. If the previous shipments went through without a hitch, then the "missing" iPads should not have any problem at all. Also, this is in regard to each individual pallet—not the overall shipment. This is happening to multiple shipments as can be seen by the diverse UPS tracking time stamps that customers are posting on this forum thread.


Also, why would anyone set it up for the tracking to be a separate occurrence than the actual shipment of the merchandise. That sounds like a recipe for theft.


I don't by these explanations, and I'm really upset now as I still, after two weeks, do not have an estimation for delivery. It's probably going to show up at my house when I'm at work, making me have to go pick it up and waste more of my time. All I know is that it's somewhere out there, lost. I was suppose to have a new one sent to me over night, as I was told. But that has not happened either. Both companies are failing right now.


Note that there are is no mention of overall limits or a quota system, by either weight or number. It is only the weight and size of each individual pallet that must not exceed the restrictions.

UPS Carriage Contract

Conditions of Carriage
This section sets out various restrictions and conditions which apply to the carriage of shipments by UPS. It also explains what the consequences are of the shipper presenting shipments for carriage which do not meet these requirements.

  1. 3.1 Service Restrictions and Conditions

    Shipments must comply with the restrictions in paragraphs ℹ to (v) below.

    The shipper shall be responsible for the accuracy and completeness of the particulars inserted in the Waybill and for ensuring that all shipments set out adequate contact details for the shipper and receiver of the shipment and that they are so packed, marked and labelled, their contents so described and classified and are accompanied by such documentation as may (in each case) be necessary to make them suitable for transportation and to comply with the requirements of the Guide and applicable law. Unless a different service level is clearly selected on the Waybill or other applicable UPS shipping documentation, shipments will be carried under the Express (or Express Freight) service (where available to the selected destination) and all applicable charges will be calculated accordingly.

    The shipper guarantees that all shipments presented for carriage under these terms comply with the restrictions in paragraphs ℹ to (v) above and have been prepared in secure premises, by him (in the case of an individual shipper) or by reliable staff employed by him or (where different) by the party tendering the shipment to UPS and have been protected against unauthorised interference during their preparation, storage and transportation to UPS. UPS relies on this guarantee in accepting any shipment for carriage hereunder.

    1. ℹ Packages must not weigh more than 70 kilograms (or 150 lbs) or exceed 270 centimetres (or 108 inches) in length or a total of 419 centimetres (or 165 inches) in length and girth combined. Pallets are subject to maximum size and weight limits that vary by origin and destination, and that are set out at www.ups.com.

    2. (ii) The value of any package may not exceed the local currency equivalent of USD 50,000. In addition the value of any jewellery or watches, other than costume jewellery or costume watches, in a package shall not exceed the local currency equivalent of USD 500. The value of any pallet may not exceed the local currency equivalent of USD 100,000.
    3. (iii) Shipments must not contain any of the prohibited articles listed in the Guide including (but not limited to) articles of unusual value (such as works of art, antiques, precious stones, stamps, unique items, gold or silver), money or negotiable instruments (such as cheques, bills of exchange, bonds, savings books, pre-paid credit cards, share certificates or other securities), firearms and dangerous goods
    4. (iv) Shipments must not contain goods which might endanger human or animal life or any means of transportation, or which might otherwise taint or damage other goods being transported by UPS, or the carriage, export or import of which is prohibited by applicable law.
    5. (v) Pallets must be palletized, stackable, able to be lifted by forklift, and shrink-wrapped or banded to a skid.
  2. 3.2 Perishable and temperature sensitive goods will be transported provided that the shipper accepts that this is at its risk. UPS does not provide special handling for such shipments.
  3. 3.3 Refusal and Suspension of Carriage
    1. If it comes to the attention of UPS that any shipment does not meet any of the above restrictions or conditions or that any COD amount stated on a COD Waybill exceeds the limits specified in paragraph 8, UPS may refuse to transport the relevant shipment (or any relevant part thereof) and, if carriage is in progress, UPS may suspend carriage and hold the shipment (or any relevant part thereof) to the shipper’s order.

    2. (ii) UPS may also suspend carriage if it cannot effect delivery, if the receiver refuses to accept delivery, if it is unable to effect delivery because of an incorrect address (having used all reasonable means to find the correct address) or because the correct address is found to be in another country from that set out on the shipment or on the Waybill or if it cannot collect amounts due from the receiver on delivery.
    3. (iii) Where UPS is entitled to suspend carriage of a shipment (or any relevant part thereof), it is also entitled to return it to the shipper at its own discretion.


Bogus iPad Pro Shipping Info

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