Windows 10 crashing, but not sure why.

How do I find the PID/VID?

Loner T wrote:

1. Can you check the Product Version in Bootcamp.xml on your USB (or OSXRESERVED)?

2. On 2015 Macs, it is in a hidden OSXRESERVED partition, visible from the OSX side. This partition is deleted if Windows is properly and successfully installed. A failure at any point may leave this partition.

1) I found this bootcamp.xml on the WindowsSupport Software downloaded through BCA->Action->Downlad...= 6.0.6237 (it is not the one I used)
2) I can't find this bootcamp.xml in the OSXRESERVED as it has been "deleted" I guess after the successful installation of W10 using BCA (it is how I did)
But, the bootcamp.xml should be the same in both right ? Anyway this worked fine, BCA did its job well (including its own Intel drivers).

WU will stay disabled for sure.

Maybe I can check on my installed drivers on my BOOTCAMP partition to check this product version ? or any other way ?

let me know if I can help you to by providing infos about my system....

I can't find those PID/VID infos as well.

Running Windows 10 with WU disabled is not a good solution in my opinion. I'm trying to delete the Intel Iris driver from the BC6 package before installing Bootcamp drivers. This seems to solve the issue as the Win 10 Iris Pro Driver is supposedly more up to date anyway.

On the OS X side, About This Mac -> System Report -> Graphics/Displays. It should be similar to the following.

On The Windows side, Device Manager -> Properties (the example shows a Broadcom Wireless Network adapter)

mothman07 wrote:

This seems to solve the issue as the Win 10 Iris Pro Driver is supposedly more up to date anyway.

The more important question is the stability of the current drivers and updates to follow. 😉

I'm glad I found this thread as I've just spent all afternoon with the same problem on my iMac and am currently stuck in the 'Preparing Automatic Repair' loop! I'm happy with the suggested solution but am struggling to get back into windows to do a restore and switch of the updates. I've tried making a bootable W10 repair USB stick and when booting I get the additional options of 'Windows' and ' EFI Boot' but neither selection seems to start safe mode. Can I get into safe mode another way? I've tried F8!

If you can, I suggest removing the current installation of Windows and run a clean installation.

Who would no better what Iris Pro driver is best, Intel of course not Apple. From what I understand reading another thread the 2015 imacs are UEFI complient. You can use Disk Utility to create freespace, boot to a Win 10 installer and run Windows 10 with no BCA at all, I've done it. Win 10 will install drivers and the only one needed from the Bootcamp 6 is the Network controller for wireless. You don't have 'Bootcamp' to choose startup disc but you really don't need it. If you want to return to OSX just shut Windows down, power up and hold option key to boot OSX

I prefer the UEFI/EFI installation over the BCA version of it on the 2013-2015, because it is much cleaner vis-a-vis the MSR partition. If you install BC drivers after such an installation, you get a much better installation/switching experience. I run W8.1 EFI on a 2013 rMBP.

Loner T wrote:

On the OS X side, About This Mac -> System Report -> Graphics/Displays. It should be similar to the following.

Here is what I've got :

Fournisseur : Intel (0x8086)

Identifiant du périphérique : 0x1622

Identifiant de révision : 0x000a

What does that mean ? It is not similar. thx

Hi Headhunter06,

I experienced the exact same problem described by you and so many others here. I followed the steps of installing W10 through BCA without connecting to the Internet and turning off Auto update all together. After a couple of trials I managed to get a stable installation, so first of all thanks very much to you and others in this discussion for getting me this far.

THe unfortunate thing with this solution is that now you won't have any updates at all, which is not entirely satisfying to me. Searching the internet I came across a howto that tells you how to exclude a device from having driver updates on the basis of its hardware-id. It's done through the local group policy editor. Here's the link: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/take-back-control-driver-updates-windows-10/

I did this and it seemed to work. To be sure of that I restored the first stable with the Winclone image I made of it and repeated the procedure and hey presto! It worked again. After turning back on the auto update the first updates started to download and install but for the Iris 6200 update it gave the glorious message: installation failed. Exactly what you want to see. I had to share this with you all and I hope it helps you too, at least untill MS closes this loophole. From what I read I get the eery feeling that they are on a zealous mission to take total control over our machines.

During this process I also found out that the iMac still works ok when you use the Microsoft basic video driver instead of the Intel driver. So if all else fails you could decide to go with that. I didn't test it any further but when after the first connectionless installation you go to the device manager, look foor the graphics adapter and choose the option to roll back to the previous drivers, it gives you this basic driver, the one Windows installs before you install the Apple WindowsSupport files. I guess you won't be bothered with updates after you've done that but that is just a hunch.

So I hope that this info will help you all. Have a nice sunday and happy computing!

Hans_NL wrote:

From what I read I get the eery feeling that they are on a zealous mission to take total control over our machines.

They need to be careful of unintended consequences like people switching to Macs. 😁. Thanks for the link about driver updates.

Hello, sorry for being so computer illiterate, but I'm having trouble following this thread. Is there any way that someone who wouldn't mind terribly much could explain out how I should proceed once I'm at the point of crashing and restarting. I think I'm grasping that you should reinstall windows, but how would I redo the process, and what would I do differently?

I feel like this is a very annoying/stupid question but I've been trying to figure this out for a while so I thought I'd ask! 😉

@Klewis270:

In my opinion reinstalling Windows is useless, as the problem is in Windows update, that pushes an Intel driver update which makes the system to crash.

See for the solution that worked on my system (iMac late 2015, iOS and Bootcamp/Win10) the post of Headhunter06 of 29 Jan. 3:36 pm (ref. my post of 5 Feb. 2:29 pm).

After implementing these instructions Windows update stays functional (so you will receive updates) but the Intel driver update is blocked, thus preventing your system to crash.

Good luck!

On the first screen that Windows Installer requests the choice of partitions, physically disconnect any network connections, install Windows, BC drivers, create a Windows System Restore point, see Hans_NL's post here about disabling driver updates.