anyone else tired of forced Ios updates?

ThomasD3 wrote:

never again I buy that product.

You should always buy the tool that best meets your needs. No one here has any vested interested in what that is. I fully support you're buying an Android phone it you think it will work better for you.

Best of luck.

I had the first one (google g1), then I think the iphone became way better than the androids; but over time, I think ended up in a situation where "we tell you how to use your phone" has become the norm.
I don't like the android ui, I don't like the shop either, but I like the ability to control more aspects of the device, so I'll try again for at least one iteration to see how it goes.

ThomasD3 wrote:

why is it almost full? 931.2mb taken by the ios 10.3.1 update that I don't want and will not install; and what will happen when I delete it? it'll be back, harassing me again and wasting almost 1gb of storage space.

Delete and block access to apple iOS update servers on your wireless router. It'll never auto download as long as you access the web thru the WiFi router that has the block in place.

I thought about that but on this island we have wifi almost everywhere (the local phone company has reserved channel 1 of every home routers to be a public access, which works very well).

The best solution would be to block on the hostfile... but someone at apple has decided I shouldn't have access to it..

However, I just remembered I use adblock (which creates locally a fake vpn) and I just put the 4 servers I could find online and we'll see how it works!

Sounds like you browse the web and charge the device at the same time. As far as I know, the device will not auto download iOS update unless you do both at the same time. I agree the best solution is to put the block on the device itself so it doesn't matter how we connect to the web, the block is always there. I highly doubt that will ever become a possibility.

However, I just remembered I use adblock (which creates locally a fake vpn) and I just put the 4 servers I could find online and we'll see how it works!

Let me know if that works. I'd love to learn a new trick to block iOS auto download.

I believe any attempt at blocking will be futile at some point since Apple is moving towards automatic downloads/installs for both iOS and Mac OS.

That makes my habit of shutting down at night (that is when most downloads will take place) more and more prudent as I wish to download an OS update if and when I want to.

@Thomas3D:

why is it almost full? 931.2mb taken by the ios 10.3.1 update that I don't want and will not install;

You can delete that automatically downloaded update; if you do, they will not download it automatically again. That is what I do - every time. I will mostly update, but I only do it via iTunes and always wait a while to hear about possible problems (they bricked the iPad Pros last year with an update (literally) - fortunately, I had waited, so mine was fine until they finally issued a correct update).

babowa wrote:

I believe any attempt at blocking will be futile at some point since Apple is moving towards automatic downloads/installs for both iOS and Mac OS.

I have never heard of it.

babowa wrote:

You can delete that automatically downloaded update; if you do, they will not download it automatically again.

Not in my experience. You can delete the fully downloaded iOS package but it will keep coming back (auto downloaded) whenever possible.

That's my experience too; each time I delete the update, it's coming back.

Yesterday I started to block on my phone the apple update servers through the adblocker; today it shows me there is an update, but somehow it's not downloaded yet; let's wait and see if this is the miraculous cure against it.

I have never heard of it.

They are; at least that was the last direct communication from Apple. Because of my NDA, that is all I am allowed to share (I asked). Exact time frame is not known.

As for the automatic downloads: on my iPad Pro, it has not been downloaded again once I've deleted it. I also have any/all possible automatic downloads disabled.

jamminpammin wrote:

OMG I am sooooo sick of updates. I don't think I've ever once been able to use my laptop without being bugged to update.

You do understand, don't you, that most of the system software updates include security updates?

If you don't want to be bugged, set your computer to do the updates automatically.

One issue here is the assumption that everyone cares about security. I run my phone on an old version of the OS; yes, it can be hacked, it can maybe even be bricked... I still don't want the update.

This device will never be updated, it will be recycled before it happens.

And I would love to stop being harassed by updates, losing space for the update that constantly re-downloads itself, causing low memory warnings.

On OSX it's even worse, we missed a deadline a year ago because of an auto update that broke a critical tool we needed. Will I ever be compensated for this? of course not...

When a device performs like I expect it to, and I have no interest in new features nor to keep it safe, why should I suffer through the updates?

ThomasD3 wrote:

On OSX it's even worse, we missed a deadline a year ago because of an auto update that broke a critical tool we needed. Will I ever be compensated for this? of course not...

A proper back up strategy could have prevented that.

On your Mac, you can turn off notifications.

yes, we can always plan around the problem created by apple's "we know better how you should use your devices" mentality.

that being said, it was a mistake on our side since that computer shouldn't have been online to start with; but it illustrates one problem updates can create.

on the mac, at worst you just waste time restoring.

On a phone, if you don't like something, you're basically screwed.

I understand that for most of the population auto updates are ideal; they keep devices protected, compatible with new services, etc and I don't see anything wrong with that.

Putting conscious efforts to prevent people from not updating is what makes me mad; there is a small percentage of people that don't want updates and apple is going against that on iOS.

I buy a device for specific uses and when I get an apple product I don't sign in for some cult where I have to follow the vision.

I can not agree with you more there. I have had worse experiences with my old android tablet, that updated itself into a brick, and replaced it with an iPad. Worst thing was when it did it while I was doing an oil painting, with the reference image i made digitally was displaying on the screen, which ended my work for the day, and rest of the week, I worked from a printout the old school way. I do wish iDevices had some sort of time machine backup option that you could restore it without updating, and your restore file would be only compatible for your device.

The worst case is when I dont upgrade my OSX because certain apps I use to do my work, wont work in updated versions, and the latest versions have flat design, which does not help with my autism. So when I tried to full-restore an old iDevice, which I was going to donate to someone, it demanded i have to upgrade my iTunes, which then in the process demanded that I would upgrade my MacOS, which i thought restoring would happen smoothly as usual, while working on a digital painting. I gave up, but have the fear of my iDevices failing, because it is going to give me a chain of unwanted technical tasks, from iPhone, to iPad to Macbook and Mac Pro.

Kekeller65 wrote:

yeah apple tends to maybe not force but does brow beat us with the multiple reminders to upgrade. We should be able to say NO, and that's the end of it.

Submit your feedback to Apple here:

http://www.apple.com/feedback

Meanwhile, you may want to take a look at what the security components were in a lot of those updates:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222