anyone else tired of forced Ios updates?

iOS 11 on the iPhone 5S: Slower, but not quite slow | Ars Technica

This shows load times increasing between iOS 10.3 and iOS 11 on iPhone 5s.

I use my phone for phone calls and WhatsApp 95% of the time; I rarely check email on it, browse the web only when I am outside and really need to see something, almost never take photos, etc so there is no benefit for me to upgrade.

I don‘t believe in any conspiracy or anything like that; I accept that the new OS may have heavier requirements and some new features may take more cpu/memory, I don’t see that as a problem.

Since I have a 5s that will not be upgraded, I just want to be left alone 😀

I agree that the user should have the option to disable update reminders. The problem is that updates can cause the device to stop working altogether (this happened to me when I updated my iPad to iOS 11).

Kekeller65 wrote:

No I'm not that ignorant, I am well informed about there license. But they could be less draconian about it.

When was a group of attorneys less draconian about anything?

Submit your feedback to Apple here:

http://www.apple.com/feedback

I've had three iPhones and three iPads, my wife likewise. One would have to be very stupid not to notice what Apple are doing. I will not update my iPhone 4, and when I was at my wits end with my previous iPad, which had of course slowed to a near stop and I was buying a very expensive new iPad Pro, a truthful "Apple genius" agreed that updating your IOS beyond a certain point was very unwise. He advised me not to update beyond ios 9 And said that he certainly wouldn't be updating his to ios 10 when it came. He would not say outright that Apple bricked iPhones or iPads but it itbwas clear as to what he thought. I wish I had taken his advice.

Now, with a less than reliable iPad Pro I'm being hustled to update to ios 11, and now ios 11.2 and being advised by reliable press reviews not to update yet. I suspect something nasty, as each time I click the tiny "remind me later" button and avoid the night time update, I think this also triggers a quiet "brickette" as my iPad gets noticeably worse. I am convinced that Apple are up to no good.

Signed

Your over loyal sap of a customer.

1. You can't update your iPhone 4. Apple stopped supporting it 2 years ago.

2. A New Phone Comes Out. Yours Slows Down. A Conspiracy? No. - The New York Times

3. https://www.futuremark.com/pressreleases/is-it-true-that-iphones-get-slower-over -time

Would you rather have your device disabled because of malware or a security threat? FWIW, direct your anger at the criminals who try to infect your device or steal your private information - Apple is just trying to mitigate that. I'd rather download the updates and know that my device is protected.

Never, and I will repeat, never had any issues with ANY of my iPad models “purposely” being slowed down by any Apple iOS upgrades/updates.

I have a 1st gen, 2nd gen, 3rd gen iPads and an iPad Pro an ALL of these are running just fine on each of their respective iOS versions.

My iPad 2 and my wife’s iPad 3 both are running fine on iOS 9.3.5.

My large iPad Pro is still running great, also.

Not every Apple computer or device user in the entire world is having trouble with their Apple products.

They get annoying.. fortunately it does not force update.. but sits as a reminded in the settings app. Gets awkward when you are travelling and to busy to update. I like having control of updates, and prefere to backup and prepare for it and make time for it, and when I do it I hold my breath and cross my fingers that all goes smoothly. After when and if an update is completed successfully i sigh with a relief that it is finally over, for the next few months , weeks or days. I prefer updating in iTunes if ever anythings should go wrong turning an iDevice into a temporary paperweight

Again, planned obsolescence IS a myth and IS an oxymoron to many extents.

By the definition people use this term for, ANY new products that are put out on the market on a yearly schedule, EVEN CARS and TRUCKS, by these peoples’ definition, would be called planned obsolescence!

That is why some people don’t like technology.

They keep waiting for the next big thing and if they keep waiting, they’ll never purchase any technology!

The “next big thing” is always going to be “right around the corner”!

Right now it's very thin bezelled, 5K curved, flat screen TVs, BTW.

If companies that produce stuff didn’t continue to put out products year after year after, it wouldn't be long before companies went out of business due to falling sales and lack of forward thinking, improvements and innovation.

Kinda like what was hapenning to Henry Ford and his creation of the Model-T.

He's quoted as saying that the Model-T is the ONLY car everyone will EVER need or own, in the ONLY color you’ll ever need, black!

That's not forward thinking or innovating.

If it weren't for his younger brother and other car manufacturers pushing forward thinking and innovation, around the world in 2018, we’d all be still driving some sort of version of Henry Ford’s Model-T car, based on his own statements and sensibilities.

And I feel no need to purchase any new electronic devices on a regular timeline.

My wife and I still own and use IPad 2 and 3 models (6 and 7 year old devices) and I, also, own a 2-1/2 yeat old 64 Gbs iPod 6th gen (that replaced my nearly 8 year old, 8 GBs 2nd gen iPod Touch) and 12.9 inch IPad Pro, because I waited over 5 long years for larger screen iPads, not smaller screen iPads of which Apple has not introduce a new IPad Mini in nearly 2-1/2 years!

I’ll have my IPad Pro for, at least, 6 years and maybe longer.

I JUST purchased my very first new iPhone (a 32 GBs iPhone SE) for my wife who has gotten tired of her crummy 4 years old, El Cheapo and security risk-laden Android (Hemroid) phone.

I got this new iPhone very reasonably (paid much less than $200 for this phone) and can use it with our month to month pay-as-you-go mobile phone plan.

I am an IPad person. Never ever owned an iPhone until the beginning of 2018.

All of my older iDevices are still being supported by regular and daily app updates, currently, so I have no reasons to go out and purchase any more Appple devices until one of them dies and either I get the battery replaced or I start looking at new IPad models and some unknown future date!

I am one who tries not to fill landfills with old electronics devices, either. I have kept many of my older electronics devices which, in many cases, STILL work on their own, if they can or do still work, I still have these devices.

Not a big fan of e-waste, either.

I recycled, not trashed, my older TV and one older computer monitor in my over 20 plus years of using technology,only because of my serious health and heart issues, as these were older tube style TVs and way too heavy for me to haul around any longer with my severe weight limitations with my heart condition.

Zanaelf wrote:

Well I saw a chap respond about cameras and things in the relationship with iDevices.

If you cant afford regularly buying new iPads like once every 3 years in order to keep up with performance and productivity ., and only have the option to use an iPad until it dies or being eco-freindly reducing the landfill of electronic garbage to have consideration for the planet over capitalism causing planned obselesence...

One of my iPads is 5 1/2 years old. It works as well as it did when it was new. It has the latest version of iOS that it will support. It doesn't work as well as my iPad 5th Generation, but it still does the same job it did 5 1/2 years ago.

You need to remember one thing: this site is owned by Apple. Therefore, they can make whatever rules they like. And, by establishing an account, you agreed to their terms. Read the ToU here:

https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-5952

Threatening them is not the best idea.

Installing an ios update is technical, what else would it be? Technically speaking, talking about problems (that we are all having, not to say expecting and dreading) after a technical update is what this technical thread is about. To say that Apple doesn't appear to tolerate criticism from customers is technically correct. I have two technical questions related to the unwanted downloads that Apple 🍎 is kind enough to make to my Apple products and that come with a technically delayed popup, heavily balanced towards installing it, it's technically too easy to hit "install later" and miss the technically tiny "remind me later" line. Was it too technically difficult to include a "No thank you, don't ask me again" button? Technically, I go straight to the (technical) gear wheel 'manage storage' and remove the unwanted update. My second question is this, is it technically possible for any company to include program code so that when an update is delayed with a technical click, other unwanted things start to gradually happen to the technical aspects of the product? I strongly suspect that it is technically possible, but heaven forbid that anbody would suggest that a company of Apple's quality might indulge in such technical practices, as that would seem to be a conspiracy theory.

iOS devices are pretty much immune to viruses, Trojans and other malware. ** this is only true if you keep them updated to the latest version. So by not updating you are leaving your phone open to invasion. All of the recent “point” releases (11.2.1 to 11.2.6) fix serious vulnerabilities.

to leave almost no free space, and it won't try to download the update,

Dubious strategy IMO.

This may achieve your short term goal but may doom your phone to possible ongoing misbehaviour due to a lack of free storage.

It strikes me that we are mostly on the same page with this matter. Lawrence, I know you have quite a collection of Apple iPhones and iPads and are knowledgeable about update matters. However, as you say, ios 11 .+.+ has needed endless patches to fix technical vulnerabilities and technical errors introduced with .... Ios 11 +++. That is exactly our point really.

Thomas D, you are correct, a couple of my technical questions were almost rehetorical... almost. I've long heard of the rental route, but I personally don't think to sell you an item that doesn't work without renting specific software for it over which you have no control would for last long. Other companies will surface offering less cumbersome deals. In any case it would be like Ford selling you a car with a rented motor that keeps showing vulnerabilities such as causing the door locks to fail and faults such as the battery going flat in a hurry and the ca's speed dropping to 30 mph while filling the boot space with technical stuff.

I don't use 90% of my iPhone's actual technical capabilities, my next phone will be simple, reliable (and vastly less expensive). I stopped buying new phones as my iPhone 4s ios was updated once too often.