anyone else tired of forced Ios updates?

ThomasD3 wrote:

On OSX it's even worse, we missed a deadline a year ago because of an auto update that broke a critical tool we needed. Will I ever be compensated for this? of course not...

A proper back up strategy could have prevented that.

On your Mac, you can turn off notifications.

yes, we can always plan around the problem created by apple's "we know better how you should use your devices" mentality.

that being said, it was a mistake on our side since that computer shouldn't have been online to start with; but it illustrates one problem updates can create.

on the mac, at worst you just waste time restoring.

On a phone, if you don't like something, you're basically screwed.

I understand that for most of the population auto updates are ideal; they keep devices protected, compatible with new services, etc and I don't see anything wrong with that.

Putting conscious efforts to prevent people from not updating is what makes me mad; there is a small percentage of people that don't want updates and apple is going against that on iOS.

I buy a device for specific uses and when I get an apple product I don't sign in for some cult where I have to follow the vision.

I can not agree with you more there. I have had worse experiences with my old android tablet, that updated itself into a brick, and replaced it with an iPad. Worst thing was when it did it while I was doing an oil painting, with the reference image i made digitally was displaying on the screen, which ended my work for the day, and rest of the week, I worked from a printout the old school way. I do wish iDevices had some sort of time machine backup option that you could restore it without updating, and your restore file would be only compatible for your device.

The worst case is when I dont upgrade my OSX because certain apps I use to do my work, wont work in updated versions, and the latest versions have flat design, which does not help with my autism. So when I tried to full-restore an old iDevice, which I was going to donate to someone, it demanded i have to upgrade my iTunes, which then in the process demanded that I would upgrade my MacOS, which i thought restoring would happen smoothly as usual, while working on a digital painting. I gave up, but have the fear of my iDevices failing, because it is going to give me a chain of unwanted technical tasks, from iPhone, to iPad to Macbook and Mac Pro.

Well, I see it every day since iOS 11 came out. I'm tired of deleting the download.

The updates are forced because banking and credit card companies will, at some point, require you to update the iOS to use their apps for security reasons. Apple should offer updates to security that don't force people to buy new products every time they introduce a new phone.

I've never owned an Android phone and don't intend to buy one. I am also not going to buy another Apple phone unless the iPhone 7 I have lasts another two years before I'm forced to update the iOS. I will also not update my iPad Pro. It works fast and fine as it is and once again, Apple isn't going to force me to get a new one before I want to because their updates slowed it down.

Every time I have updated the iOS on my iPhones in the last 3 years the bluetooth in my car stops working. Every time without fail. Last year Apple's customer service rep told me I needed to have my brand new car's software updated. That was total BS.

NorthTexasRedHead wrote:

Last year Apple's customer service rep told me I needed to have my brand new car's software updated.

Yes, that's fairly likely. Car manufactures are notorious for not keeping their software updated. But, even if they had, if your car took a couple of months to go from the factory to your garage, updates could have been released in the interim. That happens with all technology. Very often, if you buy an iOS device within a few weeks of an update, it will need to be updated. Computers need to do some updating out of the box.

Yes!! Apple is driving my nuts, I dont want to upgrade!! it wrecked my friend's phone !Why cant apple leave us alone? Now I can't call or use t since that ^&*% ios update intrusion keeps blocking me !! I like my iphone 6, it's fine, I don't want to be forced to buy the X or something else !! Leave us alone APPLE!!

I absolutely agree. Especially when There are known issues with these updates.. why would you keep forcing them out. Ill just keep deleting the updates. I haven't had two 5C's that were bricked after updates and Apple does not help you when this happens. Your just out the 8 to $900 to by a new one. I think the conspiracy theories that I used to laugh about are really true !!

I have a 5S and online benchmarks show that if I update the load times of apps goes down noticeably.

However, there are no new features that I care about...

Now I use my phone as .. a phone and for slack and whatsapp.

I use the map one time every 6 months, I go on the web when I'm out and I really need something and I hate doing email on it.. I may take 3-4 photos per month if I need to show something to someone.. I really don't need any other features and I am harassed by updated.

Maybe they need a checkbox to say you're not an "instasnapbook" addict and you you're happy with basic features and just leave me alone.

I absolutey hate that Apple does this, enforced updates, making it so I can't use my phone until I do it ! Why do I have to ruled by Apple???? And then certain app sI have ( not many ) cant be used because they don't update at the same time,and it's not just me. I ve heard several complaints around me, friends who are tech savvy, more than i am, and they hae it too

I absolutely hate it when people propose a strawman just to tear it down. In this case, that Apple forces you to update.

REAL FACT: Apple does not force you to update.

REAL FACT: Your phone will continue working if you don't update it.

REAL FACT: Apps do not require that phones be updated, except when the difference is several major versions different (e.g, iOS 7 to iOS 11). And even then, it is a choice of the app developer as to how many versions back to support. There is one exception, but it goes the other way: iOS 11 no longer supports 32 bit apps. But converting a 32 bit app to 64 bits takes about 5 minutes, so if your developer didn't do it they don't want to offer their app anymore.

Ok, do you prefer the word 'harassed' instead of 'forced'?

So, I (and I guess everyone else here) am tired of being constantly harassed by updates.

- I regularly get out of memory popups when using an app because the update auto-downloads and takes up all the free space. Do I have a choice? That's harassment.

- Every time I connect the phone to my computer to charge it, I'll get an update popup. Does it offer an option "no, I don't want that update".. no, it's either install now or later. That's harassment.

Imagine if I had expensive metered bandwidth? for example if I had the phone on a boat, I'd have paid thousands for the amount of times that 1gb update forcefully invaded my phone.

I think it's a total lack of respect to steal the user's time, space and bandwidth without consent.

I think it is helpful because it regroups people with a similar issue; from a larger group, the potential for a solution / workaround becomes higher.

For example I'd be happy to block the ios update servers on my home network without blocking the servers used to update the computers; I just don't know their addresses and maybe someone in the group will know them.

As far as the TOS, we're discussing a problem for which we're looking for a solution. It seems like anytime someone raises a problem which is not user related or write someone else than praising how apple does "something amazing that enlightens us so much in every moment in our lives", the TOS is raised as an objection to the topic. In short, Apple can never be at fault in a discussion.. either the user is at fault, or the TOS will be presented as an objection.

yes, it's completely ignored if you press cancel. I tried to check it and do download only, but then I'm still prompted for installs and the third option is to install the update making the box irrelevant.

It might be worth clicking to check the "Do not ask me again box" and then clicking "download only". After that, delete the downloaded file from your computer so that iTunes won't try to upgrade the phone later.

I absolutey hate that Apple does this, enforced updates, making it so I can't use my phone until I do it ! Why do I have to ruled by Apple???? And then certain app sI have ( not many ) cant be used because they don't update at the same time,and it's not just me. I ve heard several complaints around me, friends who are tech savvy, more thna i am, and they hat eit oo