anyone else tired of forced Ios updates?

Not at all. I have now used Android, Windows and Apple systems. Hands down the Apple iOS is the LEAST user friendly. I never had anywhere near the type of trouble Apple has caused me. not what I want to say, but an honest opinion. I use my phone for work, not social media, perhaps that is the difference. There is too much crap on the iPhone I cannot rid myself of, and the updates have caused me real trouble.

I bought a phone with email functionality, not a movie screen or social media interface. Apple seems to have a different opinion of how I should use the product I paid for, and wn't stop messing with it.

Have you considered a "dumb" phone: works great as a phone, does have internet capabilities (limited though), but it will never bug you. I have a Kyocera flip (Verizon) - works just like a phone is supposed to. I have no need for a smartphone and prefer not to pay for a data plan I wouldn't use as I find it much easier to look at emails on an iPad Pro, MBP, or iMac.

ThomasD3 wrote:

The real solution is through legislation; if we stop massive data collection, force companies to let 3rd parties access the os and do repairs, then we'll regain control of our devices; in the meantime, I'm using one only because it's convenient, but it doesn't bring me any joy and I certainly don't recommend it to anyone.

Yep, that's what we need, more government involvement. That always leads to more personal control.

I have right now a perfect example: tonight, almost every message I get on whatsapp, triggers a message that my storage is almost full... why is it almost full? 931.2mb taken by the ios 10.3.1 update that I don't want and will not install; and what will happen when I delete it? it'll be back, harassing me again and wasting almost 1gb of storage space.

This is exactly the garbage behavior that makes me hate using that product.

so, since I'm now down almost 1gb, should I delete more stuff to regain free space? or should I delete the update and install stuff I don't want to take space so that the update can't download? never again I buy that product.

ThomasD3 wrote:

never again I buy that product.

You should always buy the tool that best meets your needs. No one here has any vested interested in what that is. I fully support you're buying an Android phone it you think it will work better for you.

Best of luck.

I had the first one (google g1), then I think the iphone became way better than the androids; but over time, I think ended up in a situation where "we tell you how to use your phone" has become the norm.
I don't like the android ui, I don't like the shop either, but I like the ability to control more aspects of the device, so I'll try again for at least one iteration to see how it goes.

ThomasD3 wrote:

why is it almost full? 931.2mb taken by the ios 10.3.1 update that I don't want and will not install; and what will happen when I delete it? it'll be back, harassing me again and wasting almost 1gb of storage space.

Delete and block access to apple iOS update servers on your wireless router. It'll never auto download as long as you access the web thru the WiFi router that has the block in place.

I thought about that but on this island we have wifi almost everywhere (the local phone company has reserved channel 1 of every home routers to be a public access, which works very well).

The best solution would be to block on the hostfile... but someone at apple has decided I shouldn't have access to it..

However, I just remembered I use adblock (which creates locally a fake vpn) and I just put the 4 servers I could find online and we'll see how it works!

Sounds like you browse the web and charge the device at the same time. As far as I know, the device will not auto download iOS update unless you do both at the same time. I agree the best solution is to put the block on the device itself so it doesn't matter how we connect to the web, the block is always there. I highly doubt that will ever become a possibility.

However, I just remembered I use adblock (which creates locally a fake vpn) and I just put the 4 servers I could find online and we'll see how it works!

Let me know if that works. I'd love to learn a new trick to block iOS auto download.

I believe any attempt at blocking will be futile at some point since Apple is moving towards automatic downloads/installs for both iOS and Mac OS.

That makes my habit of shutting down at night (that is when most downloads will take place) more and more prudent as I wish to download an OS update if and when I want to.

@Thomas3D:

why is it almost full? 931.2mb taken by the ios 10.3.1 update that I don't want and will not install;

You can delete that automatically downloaded update; if you do, they will not download it automatically again. That is what I do - every time. I will mostly update, but I only do it via iTunes and always wait a while to hear about possible problems (they bricked the iPad Pros last year with an update (literally) - fortunately, I had waited, so mine was fine until they finally issued a correct update).

babowa wrote:

I believe any attempt at blocking will be futile at some point since Apple is moving towards automatic downloads/installs for both iOS and Mac OS.

I have never heard of it.

babowa wrote:

You can delete that automatically downloaded update; if you do, they will not download it automatically again.

Not in my experience. You can delete the fully downloaded iOS package but it will keep coming back (auto downloaded) whenever possible.

That's my experience too; each time I delete the update, it's coming back.

Yesterday I started to block on my phone the apple update servers through the adblocker; today it shows me there is an update, but somehow it's not downloaded yet; let's wait and see if this is the miraculous cure against it.

I have never heard of it.

They are; at least that was the last direct communication from Apple. Because of my NDA, that is all I am allowed to share (I asked). Exact time frame is not known.

As for the automatic downloads: on my iPad Pro, it has not been downloaded again once I've deleted it. I also have any/all possible automatic downloads disabled.

jamminpammin wrote:

OMG I am sooooo sick of updates. I don't think I've ever once been able to use my laptop without being bugged to update.

You do understand, don't you, that most of the system software updates include security updates?

If you don't want to be bugged, set your computer to do the updates automatically.

One issue here is the assumption that everyone cares about security. I run my phone on an old version of the OS; yes, it can be hacked, it can maybe even be bricked... I still don't want the update.

This device will never be updated, it will be recycled before it happens.

And I would love to stop being harassed by updates, losing space for the update that constantly re-downloads itself, causing low memory warnings.

On OSX it's even worse, we missed a deadline a year ago because of an auto update that broke a critical tool we needed. Will I ever be compensated for this? of course not...

When a device performs like I expect it to, and I have no interest in new features nor to keep it safe, why should I suffer through the updates?