anyone else tired of forced Ios updates?

ThomasD3 wrote:

Since benchmarks show than on older phone (like the 5s), there is a measurable slowdown with the latest iOS, that means we're been harassed into downgrading our devices. Hopefully they stop supporting them after a while and I don't get updates 😀 (since I won't buy a phone without an audio jack)

What benchmarks are you referring to? This is the only one I have seen that is credible, and it shows the opposite - that updates do not slow down iPhones.

https://www.futuremark.com/pressreleases/is-it-true-that-iphones-get-slower-over -time

And this related article:

A New Phone Comes Out. Yours Slows Down. A Conspiracy? No. - The New York Times

iOS 11 on the iPhone 5S: Slower, but not quite slow | Ars Technica

This shows load times increasing between iOS 10.3 and iOS 11 on iPhone 5s.

I use my phone for phone calls and WhatsApp 95% of the time; I rarely check email on it, browse the web only when I am outside and really need to see something, almost never take photos, etc so there is no benefit for me to upgrade.

I don‘t believe in any conspiracy or anything like that; I accept that the new OS may have heavier requirements and some new features may take more cpu/memory, I don’t see that as a problem.

Since I have a 5s that will not be upgraded, I just want to be left alone 😀

I agree that the user should have the option to disable update reminders. The problem is that updates can cause the device to stop working altogether (this happened to me when I updated my iPad to iOS 11).

No one forced you to upgrade to iOS 11.

I still have one iDevice I haven’ t upgraded to iOS 11, yet!

I only get the upgrade/update red notification dot only when a new iOS 11 update is issued and I just delete the upgrade and move on.

It is always advisable, wise and prudent to due some due diligence about computer operating system upgrades/updates before just randomly and blindly upgrading/updating your iDevices to a very new and VERY MAJOR iOS upgrade you knew nothing about!

This fact was very well known and well documented in tech news circles and in the mainstream news media for the entire 6 months prior to the release of iOS 11.

iOS 11 is an all 64-bit iOS written from the ground up, similar to what iOS 7 was, any all older 32-bit iDevices and older 32-bit applications no longer will work with iOS 11.

Older iPad models are still, currently, receiving app updates, but this fact will come to an eventual end sometime in the foreseeable future.

Kekeller65 wrote:

yeah apple tends to maybe not force but does brow beat us with the multiple reminders to upgrade. We should be able to say NO, and that's the end of it.

Submit your feedback to Apple here:

http://www.apple.com/feedback

Meanwhile, you may want to take a look at what the security components were in a lot of those updates:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222

You CAN!

Does everyone here complaining about the red upgrade/update notification dots that annoyed and distracted by these?

Are these red dot notifications really a big problem for everyone?

Everyone complaining A.D.D. much?

Just don’t install it and delete it!

I haven’t upgraded one of my iDevices, yet!

For future reference there is a way to temporarily remove an iOS upgrade/update so it can't be downloaded at all.

Go into the Settings App, General Settings panel.

In the right hand column, tap Storage and iCloud Usage.

At the top in the first block of 3 panels where it is titled at the top of this block Storage, tap the panel that says Manage Storage.

A list of every app will generate itself.

Once this list stops generating, look through this list until you see something like iOS 10.x.x in this list.

Tap on the arrow at the far right on that iOS 10.x.x panel.

It will bring you to another screen that will allowing you to completely delete/remove the entire iOS upgrade/update.

This removal/deletion of an iOS upgrade/update is not permanent and may return at anytime when the iOS upgrade/update at some point will get re-pushed to your iDevice, where you can simply perform this procedure, again.

An iOS update notification may return in several days to 2 weeks!

I haven’t received an iOS update red dot notification in a couple of weeks!

No one is obligated to respond with any action to ANY red dot notification presented to an iDevice!

Apple IS NOT FORCING ANYONE TO DO ANYTHING when everyone receives these red dot iOS upgrade/update notifications!!!

Is everyone that persuaded/influenced to do something when some notice is sent to your mobile devices?

Is society, as a world-wide whole, becoming that gullible?

Seriously?...

You might be right I am already considering going back to a flip phone. It is much cheaper and why do I really need a ipad and iPhone which is kind of redundant and quite expensive in data cost and smart phones have extra cost because well the companies can. I bought the first gen ipad and the last upgrade bricked it and no way to go back it became more of a book reader and watch movies but internet crashed, apps crashed. Apple and Microsoft are trying to make it so we don't own anything and have no say, well that's not going to work for me.

Kekeller65 wrote:

Well why cant they separate them? Ill tell you why because they don't accept that the device is ours and we should have a say.

****

The device is yours but not the software. Read the terms again next time.

You have a licence to use, that's all.

Kekeller65 wrote:

No I'm not that ignorant, I am well informed about there license. But they could be less draconian about it.

When was a group of attorneys less draconian about anything?

Submit your feedback to Apple here:

http://www.apple.com/feedback

I've had three iPhones and three iPads, my wife likewise. One would have to be very stupid not to notice what Apple are doing. I will not update my iPhone 4, and when I was at my wits end with my previous iPad, which had of course slowed to a near stop and I was buying a very expensive new iPad Pro, a truthful "Apple genius" agreed that updating your IOS beyond a certain point was very unwise. He advised me not to update beyond ios 9 And said that he certainly wouldn't be updating his to ios 10 when it came. He would not say outright that Apple bricked iPhones or iPads but it itbwas clear as to what he thought. I wish I had taken his advice.

Now, with a less than reliable iPad Pro I'm being hustled to update to ios 11, and now ios 11.2 and being advised by reliable press reviews not to update yet. I suspect something nasty, as each time I click the tiny "remind me later" button and avoid the night time update, I think this also triggers a quiet "brickette" as my iPad gets noticeably worse. I am convinced that Apple are up to no good.

Signed

Your over loyal sap of a customer.

1. You can't update your iPhone 4. Apple stopped supporting it 2 years ago.

2. A New Phone Comes Out. Yours Slows Down. A Conspiracy? No. - The New York Times

3. https://www.futuremark.com/pressreleases/is-it-true-that-iphones-get-slower-over -time

1. I know, that's fine by me, it still works well, I've just put a new battery in it.

2. Yes, they do if you update the ios again and again with faulty updates, it's happened too often with my iPhones and iPads and with yours too I guess. Why do you change yours? Just because you're a "must have"? I doubt that.

'In the meantime" as they say, check Forbes.com dated 14 Dec 2017:

"Apple iOS 11.2.1 Verdict: Install If You Have iOS 11, But iOS 10 Users Avoid

At this point the happiest iOS users who contact me are running iOS 10 (specifically iOS 10.3.3, the last release, which is rock solid). In fact one user delighted in telling me his iPhone 6 still runs like new because he has stuck with iOS 9!

Consequently my feelings towards iOS 11.2.1 are that those already running a version of iOS 11 should upgrade. If you have battery issues there’s a chance iOS 11.2.1 may deliver tangible improvements based on early reports, though if you’ve been lucky enough to avoid them so far there’s nothing much in iOS 11.2.1 which should tempt you to gamble with your device this time.

Meanwhile for iOS 10 (and happy iOS 9!) users with perfectly functioning devices, there’s simply no need to jump on this if you haven’t been tempted by previous updates.

Meanwhile looking at iOS 11 more widely, Apple’s trend of pushing out iOS updates almost weekly clearly isn’t a sensible strategy long term. The company is essentially caught on a hamster wheel right now rushing out updates to fix problems which in turn cause problems which require more rushed out updates."

Forbes is an Apple hater, and, if you read carefully, they just quote this forum. Full circle. And, BTW, going to forbes.com is risky, as they have a long history of serving up malware through their ads, which you can't block if you want to go to the site.

YES! I and 1.5m other people searched the same ****** problem! How are we supposed to use our computer for anything else while we upgrade the ****** software every 72 hours!!! What was so wrong with it in the first place? If they cannot make a decent product to start, upgrading it constantly just broadcasts it. I do not have the time nor the patience to engage in something that keeps me from working on the device I need for work and we are forced to forever upgrade.

Employees, please spend your bonuses on solving this dilemma!