anyone else tired of forced Ios updates?

So... I got an I Pad air 2 & an I phone 6...

Of course unlike most here i do not wish to upgrade my 2 apple products.

And! I can't stand pushing that pop up twice a day... APPLE NEED TO STOP HARASSING ME! 😟


And no, it is not for a Jailbreak, but for this simple reason:I like my product to last more then a couple of years before slowing down to a turtle stop!

Believe it or not, i have an Iphone 3g and 4 hanging in a drawer somewhere.

Never updated them,no Jailbreak and they are still as fast (almost) as day 1!


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Posted on Feb 3, 2016 5:35 PM

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Posted on Dec 7, 2017 6:31 PM

You could just leave update there.

Until you actually proceed with the install, it is not installed.

You ARE NOT forced into actually installing any upgrade/update!

It does take up space on your iDevice, but it is NOT ever installed.


For future reference there is a way to temporarily remove an iOS upgrade/update so it can't ever be downloaded at all!


Go into the Settings App, General Settings panel.

In the right hand column, tap Storage and iCloud Usage.

At the top in the first block of 3 panels where it is titled at the top of this block Storage, tap the panel that says Manage Storage.

A list of every app will generate itself.

Once this list stops generating, look through this list until you see something like iOS 10.x.x in this list.

Tap on the arrow at the far right on that iOS 10.x.x panel.

It will bring you to another screen that will allowing you to completely delete/remove the entire iOS upgrade/update.



This removal/deletion of an iOS upgrade/update is not permanent and may return at anytime when the iOS upgrade/update at some point will get re-pushed to your iDevice, where you can simply perform this procedure, again, to delete the iOS upgrades/updates.

For the most part, iOS upgrades/updates typically, wii not reappear for several days up to a week to two week intervals.

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Dec 7, 2017 6:31 PM in response to Butternc

You could just leave update there.

Until you actually proceed with the install, it is not installed.

You ARE NOT forced into actually installing any upgrade/update!

It does take up space on your iDevice, but it is NOT ever installed.


For future reference there is a way to temporarily remove an iOS upgrade/update so it can't ever be downloaded at all!


Go into the Settings App, General Settings panel.

In the right hand column, tap Storage and iCloud Usage.

At the top in the first block of 3 panels where it is titled at the top of this block Storage, tap the panel that says Manage Storage.

A list of every app will generate itself.

Once this list stops generating, look through this list until you see something like iOS 10.x.x in this list.

Tap on the arrow at the far right on that iOS 10.x.x panel.

It will bring you to another screen that will allowing you to completely delete/remove the entire iOS upgrade/update.



This removal/deletion of an iOS upgrade/update is not permanent and may return at anytime when the iOS upgrade/update at some point will get re-pushed to your iDevice, where you can simply perform this procedure, again, to delete the iOS upgrades/updates.

For the most part, iOS upgrades/updates typically, wii not reappear for several days up to a week to two week intervals.

Dec 13, 2017 7:22 PM in response to Raimbow

You CAN!

Does everyone here complaining about the red upgrade/update notification dots that annoyed and distracted by these?

Are these red dot notifications really a big problem for everyone?

Everyone complaining A.D.D. much?

Just don’t install it and delete it!

I haven’t upgraded one of my iDevices, yet!


For future reference there is a way to temporarily remove an iOS upgrade/update so it can't be downloaded at all.


Go into the Settings App, General Settings panel.

In the right hand column, tap Storage and iCloud Usage.

At the top in the first block of 3 panels where it is titled at the top of this block Storage, tap the panel that says Manage Storage.

A list of every app will generate itself.

Once this list stops generating, look through this list until you see something like iOS 10.x.x in this list.

Tap on the arrow at the far right on that iOS 10.x.x panel.

It will bring you to another screen that will allowing you to completely delete/remove the entire iOS upgrade/update.



This removal/deletion of an iOS upgrade/update is not permanent and may return at anytime when the iOS upgrade/update at some point will get re-pushed to your iDevice, where you can simply perform this procedure, again.

An iOS update notification may return in several days to 2 weeks!

I haven’t received an iOS update red dot notification in a couple of weeks!


No one is obligated to respond with any action to ANY red dot notification presented to an iDevice!

Apple IS NOT FORCING ANYONE TO DO ANYTHING when everyone receives these red dot iOS upgrade/update notifications!!!


Is everyone that persuaded/influenced to do something when some notice is sent to your mobile devices?

Is society, as a world-wide whole, becoming that gullible?


Seriously?...

Feb 4, 2018 6:14 AM in response to Paris7

Here's my official response If you don't want to run an iOS upgrade/update.


For future reference there is a way to temporarily remove an iOS upgrade/update so it can't be downloaded at all.


Go into the Settings App, General Settings panel.

In the right hand column, tap Storage and iCloud Usage.

At the top in the first block of 3 panels where it is titled at the top of this block Storage, tap the panel that says Manage Storage.

A list of every app will generate itself.

Once this list stops generating, look through this list until you see something like iOS 10/11.x.x in this list.

Tap on the arrow at the far right on that iOS 10/11.x.x panel.

It will bring you to another screen that will allowing you to completely delete/remove the entire iOS upgrade/update.


This removal/deletion of an iOS upgrade/update is not permanent and may return at anytime when an iOS upgrade/update at some point will get re-pushed to your iDevice, where you can simply perform this procedure, again.


There ya’ go.

Nov 25, 2017 8:06 AM in response to ThomasD3

I installed the profile. Not sure yet about the phone itself asking for updates, I'll see over time.


Now, when plugging the phone in, I still get this from iTunes.

User uploaded file


I found this online (on Cisco's site)

  • mesu.apple.com - Apple's Mobile Asset Software Update service. Provides an XML file with information about available iOS updates. When blocked, devices cannot determine that a new update is available.
  • appldnld.apple.com - (Optional) Apple's iOS and software repository. Where devices will actually download the iOS update from. However, other software and updates are also provided by this URL. Blocking may not be desirable in all environments.


I will try to block those on my router and we'll see what happens.


Update:

The notification is still there with iTunes, but the download of the update fails when I block these two domains, so it's a half win.

Mar 16, 2018 6:09 AM in response to MichelPM

@Michel, you know very well that the word 'forced' is a figure of speech here.

would you prefer if we swapped it for the word 'harassed'?


Messages about updates where you can't say 'no', just 'later', updates downloaded without asking the user, all your space taken by an update you don't want, the updated being re-downloaded over and over and over and over and over when you delete it, apps sending you warning messages for low memory because the update is back yet again, bandwidth used regardless if you happen to be on a very expensive metered connection (plane or boat)...


So, yes, we're not 'forced' to update, we're just harassed by something a sizeable group doesn't want on the device they bought and own.


Mods saying regularly that we're not forced are not helping anything or anyone finding a solution for this, it's just irritating people.


The solutions I have found:

- keep almost no memory free on the devices: the update doesn't download and you don't get the annoying popup. It may not work for everyone, but it really works 100%

- block apple.com on your router and any access point you are using. It will work, but you may end up using wifi at some point somewhere else and you'll be harassed to update once again.

- use the method we can't name here, it also works 100%


The solution that will work for me in a near future:

- buy another brand that lets you really own the device you bought.

Apr 23, 2016 12:13 AM in response to Philcavana

Your later rants were that your iDevices SiNCE your daughter ended up updating these are not functioning as they should.

BTW, I DO the same as you.

I wait out iOS upgrades/updates for, at least, a week, sometimes a lot longer, if there are reported bugs/issues.

Unfortunately, I couldn't wait as long as I would've like to to update to iOS 9.3.1 because there is a fairly major security threat of a remote activated version of the iOS date/time bug that can both brick and burn up your iDevice's internals remotely over a public, open WIfi network.

This had been discovered, just recently, and this vulnerability was specifically targetted to any iDevice still running the older iOS 9.2.1 update.

So, I was, sort of forced, to update my devices, just under a week, because I have two, relatively, brand new andvexpensive iDevices, that I do not to get wasted. And I have two older iDevices that I don't want trashed, either.

Anyhoo...

Your iDevices are pretty new. I would strongly suggest you get your yourself and your iPhone and iPad to an Apple Store to get them to fix your iDevices and get them back to working properly and quit all of B.S. that you keep posting here about it!

You do not have to update your devices after this and there is a way to get rid of the update/upgrade notices for awhile ( Settings App, General, Storage and iCloud Usage, Manage Local Storage. A list of apps generate. The iOS upgrade/update file appears within this list where you can tap on it and delete the upgrade/update file for awhile. The red balloon notification will not dissappear, but the actual update file will be gone from your iDevices.

The upgrade/update file will return, but much less frequently and you can still remove/delete it the same way each time.).

This is how I put off iOS upgrades/updates for awhile without the update constantly bugging me to install a new iOS upgrade/update.

In the meantime you can get Apple employees at an Apple Store to straighten out your iDevices.

You want your devices to go back to working the way they were or not or keep coming here ranting about all of your issues and complaints with Apple doing this and that.

From here on out, you now know how you can keep iOS upgrades/updates off of your iDevices for as long as you want.

Feb 25, 2018 8:52 AM in response to babowa

"Asking other users about Apple's policies and decisions is a waste of time - we do not know and we aren't allowed to discuss it either. You should be addressing them with Apple."


Many questions are rhetorical here, they're just to address some frustrations and to discover if other users have found solutions and workarounds.


It fits in the context of the forums since users are genuinely looking for solutions and many may be of technical nature; it also serves as a warning for newcomers that may be deciding to move to iPhones/iPads.


The only 2 real solutions I have found to not be harassed by updates are to leave almost no free space, and it won't try to download the update, or the other way that if you mention it by name here your post gets deleted.

Feb 4, 2016 5:45 PM in response to Philcavana

Hmmm...

My iPad 2 and 3 are running just fine and dandy on the latest iOS 9.2.1 update,

Juust Peachy!

So, it's not the iOS upgrades/updates.

Your iDevices are having other issues.

I am using my iPad 2 right now and it is just fine.

So, your attitude on iOS upgrades/updates is based on error in the actual facts.

Your iDevices are having issues outside of any iOS upgrades and updates.

In addition, if you are doing these major iOS upgrades/updates over the air via WiFi, this method is the least reliable method to doing iOS upgrades/updates due to data transfer issues/errors over WIfi and possible unstable signal strengths and varying download speeds over WIFi, too.

Best, most reliable method for doing ANY major Mac OS X or iOS upgrades/updates is through a computer using iTunes.

The iTunes method is best and have been using this method for ALL my various OS upgrades/updates for many, many years and have never, EVER had any issues with any of my Macs or iDevices. Ever.

Feb 3, 2018 4:30 PM in response to maurorinaldi

“Planned obsolescence” is a made up, oxymoronic term and “myth”.

What do you to make your iPhone 7 perform better?

How much free data storage space is left on your iPhone 7?

Ideally, it should have, at the least, 3 GBs or more of free data storage space.


In Settings app, General settings panel, turn OFF Background App Refresh.

In Settings app, under General settings, Reset panel, at the right bottom of the list, Reset All Settings.

In Settings app (NOT from the iOS Control Panel) turn OFF Bluetooth when not using any Bluetooth devices.


Also, in general, if you want a faster IDevice, on all of my iDevices, I turn off most of the iOS motion graphics eye candy, by simply turning ON Reduce Motion in Settings app, General, Accessibilty settings.


Make sure you aren't running scads and scads of background apps in the iOS 11 Control Panel/App Switcher.

If you are, you need to quit the bulk of these background running apps by tap and hold a finger on an app window in the switcher and slide your finger upwards to quit an app. You should be able to use more than one finger to quit more than one app window simultaneously.


Also, make sure you don’t have scads and scads of active website tabs running in the web browser.

If you do, greatly reduce the amount of active website tabs your web browser.


Also, if your iPhone 7 is over a year old, maybe its performance would speed up by the benefit of a new replacement Li-ion battery replacement under Apple’s new reduced price iPhone battery replacement program in effect until the end of 2018.


Good Luck to You!

Nov 24, 2017 6:00 PM in response to Raimbow

I absolutely hate it when people propose a strawman just to tear it down. In this case, that Apple forces you to update.


REAL FACT: Apple does not force you to update.

REAL FACT: Your phone will continue working if you don't update it.

REAL FACT: Apps do not require that phones be updated, except when the difference is several major versions different (e.g, iOS 7 to iOS 11). And even then, it is a choice of the app developer as to how many versions back to support. There is one exception, but it goes the other way: iOS 11 no longer supports 32 bit apps. But converting a 32 bit app to 64 bits takes about 5 minutes, so if your developer didn't do it they don't want to offer their app anymore.

Dec 10, 2017 5:07 PM in response to a guy in boston

No one forced you to upgrade to iOS 11.

I still have one iDevice I haven’ t upgraded to iOS 11, yet!

I only get the upgrade/update red notification dot only when a new iOS 11 update is issued and I just delete the upgrade and move on.

It is always advisable, wise and prudent to due some due diligence about computer operating system upgrades/updates before just randomly and blindly upgrading/updating your iDevices to a very new and VERY MAJOR iOS upgrade you knew nothing about!

This fact was very well known and well documented in tech news circles and in the mainstream news media for the entire 6 months prior to the release of iOS 11.

iOS 11 is an all 64-bit iOS written from the ground up, similar to what iOS 7 was, any all older 32-bit iDevices and older 32-bit applications no longer will work with iOS 11.

Older iPad models are still, currently, receiving app updates, but this fact will come to an eventual end sometime in the foreseeable future.

Dec 17, 2017 3:50 PM in response to Paris7

'In the meantime" as they say, check Forbes.com dated 14 Dec 2017:


"Apple iOS 11.2.1 Verdict: Install If You Have iOS 11, But iOS 10 Users Avoid

At this point the happiest iOS users who contact me are running iOS 10 (specifically iOS 10.3.3, the last release, which is rock solid). In fact one user delighted in telling me his iPhone 6 still runs like new because he has stuck with iOS 9!

Consequently my feelings towards iOS 11.2.1 are that those already running a version of iOS 11 should upgrade. If you have battery issues there’s a chance iOS 11.2.1 may deliver tangible improvements based on early reports, though if you’ve been lucky enough to avoid them so far there’s nothing much in iOS 11.2.1 which should tempt you to gamble with your device this time.

Meanwhile for iOS 10 (and happy iOS 9!) users with perfectly functioning devices, there’s simply no need to jump on this if you haven’t been tempted by previous updates.

Meanwhile looking at iOS 11 more widely, Apple’s trend of pushing out iOS updates almost weekly clearly isn’t a sensible strategy long term. The company is essentially caught on a hamster wheel right now rushing out updates to fix problems which in turn cause problems which require more rushed out updates."

Feb 25, 2018 4:18 AM in response to MichelPM

Unfortunately the industry is moving toward the 'rental' direction:


I was in a meeting in 1999 where Intel guys were saying that the trend was going to be renting software and purchase would become a thing of the past. I didn't really think much of it, but now, in 2018, it's definitely shaping that way.


Products becoming services, etc and, in the end, your data is not your data anymore if you skip a payment. Microsoft wants everyone to move to Office 365, Adobe is trying to get everyone to rent their software, and the list keep growing.


Similarly, with Windows 10, Microsoft is now deciding when it updates, what it updates and can install apps for you when they feel like it.


Chromebooks are the perfect example of a device where you have no control over the software.


I think Apple is just another company like that: you own the hardware, but they want to keep control on the software and make sure you don't deviate from the rules they have set. They are auto downloading the updates in a never ending fashion, and leaving you with the only option to update now or update later. It is a matter a time until it becomes forced like Windows 10.

If they wanted to add a 'no thanks, I'll stay on my old version' button, they would have, but this is not the way any of this is going right now.


Personally speaking my next phone, whatever it will be, will have to give me total access and have an audio jack.

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