Repairment policy- iPhone unfixable?

My iPhone's glass was shattered on August.

The glass was replaced at my carrier's labs with an unoriginal screen without my awareness.

The Touch ID Sensor started lately to function on and off until it completely stopped responding.

I Previously managed to update to 9.2.1 and my iPhone worked without the Touch ID Sensor.

I erased the iPhone and downgraded it to 9.2 and the Touch ID started working again. After couple of days it stopped and never worked ever since.

I updated to iOS 9.2.1 and the iPhone is bricked (Unable to downgrade since 9.2 in unavailable).


I was told by a premium reseller that a glass can not be replaced without replacing the Touch ID as well. And Their policy, as well as Apple's is to change the iPhone to a new one.

Apple representative told me they won't check or fix my iPhone , neither will the premium reseller (Even to understand whether I have original parts or not).

I don't understand, If my iPhone's screen shatters then I must buy a new iPhone?

My brother's iPhone's glass was shattered, he replaced it at a third-part lab and his iPhone 6 works with 9.2.1.


I don't understand if the glass must be replaced with Touch ID

I don't understand if the glass's unoriginality itself can cause iPhone to become bricked.

I don't understand if every time my glass shatters I must buy a new iPhone

I don't understand if I can find out some how whether I have an original Touch ID or not (not Apple nor a Premium preseller want to help)

I don't understand if I can rescue my iPhone, if my Touch ID is damaged or just unoriginal parts


Please help 😟


Thanks for the helpers

iPhone 6, iOS 9.2.1, Touch ID

Posted on Feb 16, 2016 9:17 AM

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Feb 16, 2016 1:43 PM in response to KiltedTim

As I understand even if the iPhone was perfectly untouched, Apple still would treat (not treat) me the same.

They are being real jerks. They first claimed the screen was original and they keep playing this denying game.

This is why I wished for Apple or any other premium reseller to verify the issue so I'll have something to fight them with. I'm sort of an hostage in their hands.

I keep getting contradicting answers from Apple and other. This is why I wished to know maybe people here can tell me.


1. The big question is whether I had any other choice saving my phone when it shattered, without replacing it to a new one.

2. Must the glass be replaced with Touch ID?

3. does every time my glass shatters, must I buy a new iPhone?

4. Can I somehow still find out if my Touch ID is original?


Thanks

Feb 16, 2016 1:56 PM in response to amigo1989

Yes, if you had gone to a quality independent repair shop you would not have this problem.

The glass digitizer/LCD itself is not part of touch ID and error 53. Competent shops will carefully transfer your original home button from your original broken glass to the new glass leaving touch ID intact. It is not necessary to install a new home button with every screen swap, but careful transfer of your original button is.


No, every time your glass shatters you do not need to buy a new phone. You can either go to an Apple Store where they will replace the glass and the home button and reprogram the new button to your logic board. OR, you can go to a quality independent repair shop who has the experience necessary to carefully transfer your old home button to the new screen without damaging it. You have to do your research on this---the cheapest guy around is not going to be the best.


Yes, your Touch ID is still original. You would have greyed out fingerprint sensor 100% of the time if it was not. The most likely explanation for your experience is either damage to the home button/fingerprint sensor from the original drop, or damage to the sensor or one of the flexes/connectors that it uses to talk to the board during your screen swap.

Feb 16, 2016 2:00 PM in response to mendonipadrehab

Thank you so much for the quick and helpful response!


3 small follow up questions

1. Why does a quality independent repair shop is better than carrier's lab?

2. If my Touch ID is original, How would the independent repair shop's fix would be better? I assume he doesn't have original glass as well.

3. Where would I get grayed out fingerprint sensor? during using my iPhone? Even with 9.2?


Thanks again!

Feb 16, 2016 2:20 PM in response to amigo1989

Great questions,


1.) Quality independent repair vs carrier lab. I don't think that all carrier labs are necessarily not qualified to do general repair on iPhones. The better question might be "how do I identify a quality independent repair shop/ carrier lab?" The reality is that it is possible for any repair service to botch an iPhone job, so you want to find one that has a robust warranty. A good shop will do a complete pre-check and post-check in front of you when your bring your phone to service. This allows them to document pre-existing conditions. If your touch ID works at intake, it should also work when you leave.
Will the shop be around to honor the warranty? Take a look at the reviews online to see how long the shop has been in business, and how many positive reviews they have vs negative reviews. Also pay attention to how they respond to the negative reviews online. It really is no different than finding a really great mechanic, electrician, hairdresser or any other service trade. Ask about pricing. If you get a quote significantly cheaper than other stores, this by definition means they are either willing to do precision work for pennies, or are using inferior parts---both are things to avoid.


Ask good questions---where do you get your screens? It is widely known that true Apple original screens are not available in the independent repair marketplace. A quality shop will be forthcoming with this information and will have reasonable answers. Sketchy shops may try to convince you that they are using true Apple screens---this is a huge red flag.


2.) If your carrier does INDEED have Apple original screens, then by definition they are an Apple Authorized Service Provider. Ask them if they are. If so, I think it is telling that an AASP is not willing to take responsibility for a mistake they made. AASP will continue to get referrals for business by virtue of the fact that some people will always choose AASP over independent repair. On the other hand, an independent repair shop will have to work harder to build a business based on the overall satisfaction of their customers. Your ultimate satisfaction will be more important to them for their continued success.



3.) A grayed out fingerprint sensor is something that you notice in settings--passcode/touch id. If the fingerprint sensor is not working, you will have no option to 'add a new fingerprint' and the function will be 'grayed out' This is a sign that your fingerprint sensor is either not original or damaged.

Feb 16, 2016 2:38 PM in response to mendonipadrehab

Wow that's a lot of helpful information! Thank you!

My brother knows a great quality independent repair shop, He fixed his shattered screen there and his iPhone works just fine with the new version.


My carrier's different representatives say claim things, As I understood they have both but sold me a non original one because it's cheaper (As if they tried to save me money)


My iPhone was grayed out sometimes and got back working other times. the last week before it was bricked, it was constantly grayed out. (As I mentioned, erasing iPhone fixed it for a while..).

If I understood you correctly, I should take my iPhone to this independent repair shop. Maybe he'll manage to fix my iPhone or at least tell me what is wrong with it?


Can my carrier find out if somebody else opened my iPhone? I don't want them to then blame me for taking it else where..


Thank you so much!

Feb 16, 2016 3:41 PM in response to amigo1989

Whenever someone that doesn't get a paycheck from Apple opens your phone, you are potentially at risk for voiding your option with Apple to buy a refurbished phone from them at a discount---$299 for iPhone 6 when you trade in your phone. This is the out of warranty phone service option from Apple. In my experience, I've never seen anyone get denied OOW swap.


If you can find a quality independent repair shop, they can take a look at the phone and see if there is any visible damage to the home button and its flexes/connectors and give you some guidance. A good shop will present your options with Apple as well as what they might be able to do for you, if anything.


best of luck!
jessa

Feb 16, 2016 3:58 PM in response to amigo1989

amigo1989 wrote:


As I understand even if the iPhone was perfectly untouched, Apple still would treat (not treat) me the same.

If your phone had not been repair by someone unauthorized, yes, Apple would have helped you. However, once the screen was replaced, you voided not only your warranty but your eligibility for out-of-warranty service. This is why avoiding unauthorized repairs is generally a good idea.

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