Muaawiyhah T

Q: Live Photos separated

I need some help. I just came back from my holiday with my family and I took loads of pictures using the 'live photo' feature.  However, I made the mistake of importing it into aperture and deleting the pics upon import.  So now in aperture I have photos and a Mov file for each live photo. I'm aware that this is how live photos work, it is essentially a jpeg and a mov, but how to I recombine them back onto my phone or on the Photos app on the mac?

MacBook Pro, OS X El Capitan (10.11)

Posted on May 19, 2016 7:15 AM

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  • by LarryHN,

    LarryHN LarryHN May 19, 2016 7:40 AM in response to Muaawiyhah T
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    May 19, 2016 7:40 AM in response to Muaawiyhah T

    Live Photos are a new feature and does not work with Aperture (an old and discontinued program) - they only work with Photos (the latest version is 1.5 with OS X 10.11.5)

     

    And there is not way to make a live photos from a photo and a MOV  - you have to import the live photo form the phone to Photos directly - once you have separated the two pieces you can not reassemble them

     

    LN

  • by Muaawiyhah T,

    Muaawiyhah T Muaawiyhah T May 19, 2016 7:42 AM in response to LarryHN
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    May 19, 2016 7:42 AM in response to LarryHN

    There must be some sort of app, program or fix, as I have hundreds of 3 sec vids...who wants that?

  • by Muaawiyhah T,

    Muaawiyhah T Muaawiyhah T May 19, 2016 8:19 AM in response to Muaawiyhah T
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    May 19, 2016 8:19 AM in response to Muaawiyhah T

    I also have the .AAE files that came with each photo.  Does that help?

  • by LarryHN,

    LarryHN LarryHN May 19, 2016 11:30 AM in response to Muaawiyhah T
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    May 19, 2016 11:30 AM in response to Muaawiyhah T

    Sorry the the answer is

    Live Photos are a new feature and does not work with Aperture (an old and discontinued program) - they only work with Photos (the latest version is 1.5 with OS X 10.11.5)

     

    And there is no way to make a live photos from a photo and a MOV - you have to import the live photo form the phone to Photos directly - once you have separated the two pieces you can not reassemble them

     

    Not sure why you insist that there "must be a way" - but if there is you need to tell us since there is no known way

     

    LN

  • by Muaawiyhah T,

    Muaawiyhah T Muaawiyhah T May 19, 2016 1:33 PM in response to LarryHN
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    May 19, 2016 1:33 PM in response to LarryHN

    There has to be a way because:

    1) I have the components that made up the original file

    2) I know of one app (fyuse) that can make live photos by means other than how the iphone makes it. That means others have found a way to 'make' live photos

    3) If you wanted to help you can start by telling me how Photos stores live photos in its library.  I've found the jpeg component but not the mov part.

    4) I'll ignore your condescending tone.

  • by LarryHN,

    LarryHN LarryHN May 19, 2016 2:42 PM in response to Muaawiyhah T
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    May 19, 2016 2:42 PM in response to Muaawiyhah T
    2) I know of one app (fyuse) that can make live photos by means other than how the iphone makes it.

     

    Ok then use it

    4) I'll ignore your condescending tone.

     

    And me yours

     

    Have a nice day

     

    LN

  • by Old Toad,Helpful

    Old Toad Old Toad May 19, 2016 5:17 PM in response to LarryHN
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    May 19, 2016 5:17 PM in response to LarryHN

    This is a WAG (wild a.. guess) solution: 

     

    1 - assemble the components of the "live" photos into a folder on the Desktop.  Include the .AAE files for each photo.

     

    2 - import that folder into a Photos Library. 

     

    I don't expect it to work but it's worth a try.  When it doesn't offer an apology to Larry because he was correct in that there's no way to reassemble a broken live photo. 

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  • by Muaawiyhah T,Solvedanswer

    Muaawiyhah T Muaawiyhah T May 19, 2016 4:46 PM in response to Old Toad
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    May 19, 2016 4:46 PM in response to Old Toad

    I tried your folder thing, and photos, as you predicted, does not recognise it as a live photo.  However it is possible to recombine the two pieces.  There is an app called 'intoLive' that allows you to make any video into a live photo and as a final step after choosing a video you can choose a still picture as the first frame, thus re-combining the two pieces.  This is why I said I find it hard to believe that it isn't a simple solution to combine two simple files to act as one.  All it takes is for someone to do it first.  However, truth be told, it doesn't look like the sound is preserved for some reason, but at the same time, I haven't purchased the pro version, which is £1 something.  So any devs out there, there is an opportunity to make some cash...make a live photo creator for the mac, add a feature where you can do batch recombines and stuff.  At the moment one can only make a live photo via the new iphone, but it is possible to do it via other means.

  • by Muaawiyhah T,

    Muaawiyhah T Muaawiyhah T May 19, 2016 4:51 PM in response to Muaawiyhah T
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    May 19, 2016 4:51 PM in response to Muaawiyhah T

    But if anyone knows how photos stores live photos in its library that would be helpful and would appreciate a share.

  • by Muaawiyhah T,

    Muaawiyhah T Muaawiyhah T May 19, 2016 5:01 PM in response to Muaawiyhah T
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    May 19, 2016 5:01 PM in response to Muaawiyhah T

    For those who may be interested http://www.mackungfu.org/turn-any-movie-into-a-live-photo-and-create-your-own-li ve-wallpaper

     

    A mac app that allows you to make live photos

  • by Muaawiyhah T,Helpful

    Muaawiyhah T Muaawiyhah T May 20, 2016 12:28 AM in response to Old Toad
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    May 20, 2016 12:28 AM in response to Old Toad

    I didn't give up on you...

    Old Toad wrote:

     

    This is a WAG (wild a.. guess) solution:

     

    1 - assemble the components of the "live" photos into a folder on the Desktop.  Include the .AAE files for each photo.

     

    2 - import that folder into a Photos Library. 

     

    I don't expect it to work but it's worth a try.  When it doesn't offer an apology to Larry because he was correct in that there's no way to reassemble a broken live photo.

    OTsig.png

    After playing with it for a bit I discovered that the reason why my initial import didnt work was because the mov file had a different date to the original file.  It said was todays date as I 'exported' a version from aperture without realising. I exported the 'original' and BOOM, the simple drag of the folder into photos enabled it perfectly without a long winded download of external apps.  So although one can 'make' a live photo from the mov file and  choosing the image as the still, just simply having a mov and jpeg file with the same metadata does the job. Photos recognises it immediately.

     

    So advice to those who say 'It cant be done'...well it can.

     

    Thanks Old Toad...this is all I asked for, something constructive.  You're genius.

  • by Muaawiyhah T,

    Muaawiyhah T Muaawiyhah T May 20, 2016 12:28 AM in response to Muaawiyhah T
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    May 20, 2016 12:28 AM in response to Muaawiyhah T

    Update:

     

    This morning I went to my initial Aperture import, exported the live photos (ie the Jpeg & mov files) in batch and did so using the 'export originals' option.  It is very important that the raw original files are exported and not edited ones, as different dates separates the two files. Once both files/components of the live photo have the same name and metadata, just drag and drop into Photos and BOOM!!! it just works.  Its a relief that Apple didnt require some extra file to link to two together and that the program is smart enough to just link the two files together.

     

    As an afterthought, it seems like a good exploit to make ones own custom Live Photos.  Maybe just two files with same name and metadata would be sufficient to make it live.  So 'potentially' one can join longer mov videos and better quality images.  I will give it a try and see what I get.  Will Update you all.

  • by Muaawiyhah T,

    Muaawiyhah T Muaawiyhah T May 20, 2016 12:52 AM in response to Muaawiyhah T
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    May 20, 2016 12:52 AM in response to Muaawiyhah T

    Tried to import into Photos a mov and jpeg with the same filename and time stamp but it doesnt work.  Not sure what else live photos have in them that links them together.  I would suspect some metadate that I either cannot access in Aperture or don't recognise.  Either way, thats it from me.  Can't spend more time on it.  If anyone else wishes to pic up on this then by all means share your findings here.

     

    But the conclusion of all of this is that it is super easy to recombine Live Photos after they have been split via Aperture or other programs.

  • by Filip UK,

    Filip UK Filip UK Aug 9, 2016 6:27 AM in response to Muaawiyhah T
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    Aug 9, 2016 6:27 AM in response to Muaawiyhah T

    I had a similar problem to this that had been bothering me for months. Having read through this thread, I've been able to solve it. Big thanks to Old Toad and Muaawiyhah T for pointing me in the right direction!