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IOS 10 mail puts messages threads in seemingly random order

Since the IOS 10 Update email message threads on my iPhone 6+ are in a really weird order. There seems to be no real order to how the messages are displayed once you click on the thread.

The first message in the thread seems to be randomly placed under some of the replies, and occasionally the entire thread will be under one of the replies as if the message breaks were not detected.


I have Enabled the "Most Recent Messages on Top" setting which has meant the last message and your entry point to the thread is at the top (rather than in the middle with this setting disabled), but the message order still has the above quirks.


The issue is the same in my Office 365 mailbox and Hotmail.

iPhone 6 Plus, iOS 10

Posted on Sep 15, 2016 2:15 AM

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Posted on Jan 4, 2017 7:56 PM

From an article I found on CNet


"You can tap that blue-arrow button to view the subject lines of all the emails in a thread without leaving the main view of your inbox. It's a convenient way to locate a specific email in a thread. The messages in this expanded view are ordered so that the most recent message is at the top."


The double blue arrow pointing to the right located to the right of the date will drop down the list of related emails. Then you can click into just the one you want.


Also sometimes if you swipe the message to the left and click more you can click show related messages and it brings you to another screen with the list of messages. However this doesn't seem to consistently work for me and I can't figure out why it works sometimes and why it doesn't. My best guess is I think either all of the messages in the thread either have to be read or unread for this 2nd option to work.


The first option though definitely works thank goodness

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Sep 28, 2016 8:23 AM in response to Flynner8r

OK. Here's a solution.


While I still think what Apple did to threaded emails is crap, apparently, there is now a double blue arrow toward the top right of every threaded email conversation.


When one clicks on this blue arrow, the ability to access individual emails within the thread is regained—it's an "expand/collapse" function, essentially.


This restores some of my faith in Apple iOS Mail—at least, as far as it is most critically concerned.


This change brings up a larger issue in Apple's platform: that when they release a new iOS, they explain very little.


I mean, perhaps this was demonstrated in the WWDC video somewhere, but who has the time to watch all of that crap? Plus, they rarely go into every minute function change.


Anyway. Still some other issues with the changes to Mail, but I hope this helps everyone.


Brad | YRLK

Sep 28, 2016 7:42 PM in response to bradlii

I Have already tried that and while it does expand the threads its not solving the garbled message issue. Also from my Mac it's inconsistent with including all the thread or just a portion. Makes my email unusable. A real mess with multi response threads. It's mixing text from one person with time stamps and signatures of another. Hope this is solved soon. Can't image how apple missed this since most professionals don't operate in a world of one time emails With no replies

Oct 1, 2016 6:01 AM in response to marmur99

The only solution I could find is to turn threading off all together. From a business, Email user's point of view, this update is completely useless. I spent 10 minutes yesterday trying to reply to one email in the middle of a chain. It was absolutely impossible. Only after turning threading off, then searching for the original email, could I reply to just that one message. Apple - please, please FIX this!

Oct 1, 2016 9:00 PM in response to manualoverride

OK, finally found something close to what we had before. Better, but not as good. Turn on all 3 thread notes in systems and then go back to your mail and find a thread. The email on top will have an arrow thing right next to the time or date of the email. Press the arrow and the other emails in the thread will drop down below and then you can click on the email you would like in the thread.

Oct 3, 2016 4:36 AM in response to manualoverride

Solved!


In the main message view a level before where all the messages are in a list with all the details, there is a little double arrow to show it's a threqded message. Tap this little double arrow and it expands the list of messages in the thread to you and manage them easier. Make sure threaded messages and show latest message to the top is switched on in settings for mail and you will be back to being productive with messages again.

Oct 3, 2016 1:30 PM in response to stewartscotlland118

I'm still having the issue with the message being all garbled. For example a thread that has several replies back and forth, there's a sentence that i sent randomly placed in the thread as if it's a part of a reply.


Another email with multiple replies back and forth has a reply for today but the 2nd paragraph is from an email several weeks ago randomly placed in the thread. this is a nightmare.

Oct 3, 2016 5:23 PM in response to manualoverride

I'd just like to add my voice to this chain. This is a terrible move by Apple. Although I don't have the issue of emails out of order, when clicking on a conversation the next window contains all of the emails open, instead of the list of emails contained in the chain. Once the chain gets long, one has to scroll and scroll to find individual responses. It's confusing and a waste of time. The workaround that some have suggested--hitting the double-arrow in the higher level (or main) list of emails--is definitely a help, but one might expect that when the individual emails in the conversation appear that they would be demarcated to set them apart from the rest of the list, for example by being indented.

Oct 4, 2016 5:32 PM in response to manualoverride

I understand everyone being upset. Change is bad, blah blah blah. But if it's that unworkable for you, then why don't you switch from the iPhone to another phone? Seems like the mail issue has really ruined your Apple experience if you are posting a thread here where users help each other fix issues.


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Oct 5, 2016 12:56 AM in response to manualoverride

iOS 10 mail update on iPhone 5S is a nightmare! I have over 15 email accounts on my iPhone 5S

each email account has multiple folders to get all the emails organized in iOS 9 which worked well and was easy to manage. Now it's all out in iOS 10 and I need to scroll to find anything and often it puts emails in the wrong folder guessing instead of letting me decide. Can't stand what apple did to mail which functioned well since 2008 with iOS 10 update! It wastes huge amounts of time trying to find mail in folders that I used to be able to access quickly before iOS 10. It's the most unorganized email system for many emlail accounts I have ever seen. Trying to fix it would take me weeks to reorganize years of many email accounts saved emails. That's not including failing getting over /00 emails I need to manage which is why I had a good organized system set up. Apple dropped the ball on email update in iOS 10 turning it to a pile of poop No one wants search through!

IOS 10 mail puts messages threads in seemingly random order

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