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IOS 10 mail puts messages threads in seemingly random order

Since the IOS 10 Update email message threads on my iPhone 6+ are in a really weird order. There seems to be no real order to how the messages are displayed once you click on the thread.

The first message in the thread seems to be randomly placed under some of the replies, and occasionally the entire thread will be under one of the replies as if the message breaks were not detected.


I have Enabled the "Most Recent Messages on Top" setting which has meant the last message and your entry point to the thread is at the top (rather than in the middle with this setting disabled), but the message order still has the above quirks.


The issue is the same in my Office 365 mailbox and Hotmail.

iPhone 6 Plus, iOS 10

Posted on Sep 15, 2016 2:15 AM

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Posted on Jan 4, 2017 7:56 PM

From an article I found on CNet


"You can tap that blue-arrow button to view the subject lines of all the emails in a thread without leaving the main view of your inbox. It's a convenient way to locate a specific email in a thread. The messages in this expanded view are ordered so that the most recent message is at the top."


The double blue arrow pointing to the right located to the right of the date will drop down the list of related emails. Then you can click into just the one you want.


Also sometimes if you swipe the message to the left and click more you can click show related messages and it brings you to another screen with the list of messages. However this doesn't seem to consistently work for me and I can't figure out why it works sometimes and why it doesn't. My best guess is I think either all of the messages in the thread either have to be read or unread for this 2nd option to work.


The first option though definitely works thank goodness

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Oct 11, 2016 9:59 AM in response to manualoverride

Replies composed in the mail app are also broken. I have somehow managed to send a reply to the wrong branch of a thread, even though I used the expander arrows, specifically selected the message I wanted to respond to, and saw the body of the message I was replying to while composing my reply. I didn't even realize I had done this until I looked for my reply in Outlook and couldn't find it in the part of the thread I was expecting.


I have *never* replied to the wrong message in the mail app before, at least not without fat-fingering it (and then immediately realizing my mistake and sending an immediate follow up).


This is ridiculous. Either due to extremely poor and misleading usability or due to bugs the mail app in iOS 10 is completely and utterly broken.


Apple, please return the functionality of the iOS 9 mail app -- that actually worked!

Oct 13, 2016 1:22 PM in response to manualoverride

To get your email threading back to an approximation of the old iOS 9 version:


1. Go to "Settings" and "Mail" and then scroll down to the "Threading" section and select "Most Recent Message on Top"


2. To scroll to a particular message within a thread, use the blue "<" and ">" arrows at the top right of the screen. The "<" arrow goes to older (prior) emails; the ">" arrow advances to newer (more recent) emails.


3. To reply to a particular email within a thread, go to that email, and then swipe left. You will then have the choice of replying to the email (blue circle with reply arrow symbol), flagging the email (orange circle with flag symbol), or deleting the email (red circle with trash can symbol)


Hope this helps! It took me a lot of research to figure all of this out.

Oct 18, 2016 4:25 AM in response to frizzo2020

RIGHT?!! I wonder this too! Do they read this feedback at all? DO THEY CARE ABOUT OUR PAIN??!! Why does no one from Apple reply with an explanation of this new structure? Irrational & cumbersome as it seems to all of us, perhaps they're working to fix the flow... or new features in a later release will correct the horrors of 10... but for god's sake THEY NEED TO TELL US!! Everyday I'm hoping and praying to wake up to a software update or some comment from Apple that will HELP ME figure out this terrible new 10 and learn some small way to make it work for my life and work (cause right now I want to throw my phone against a wall anytime I need to open the email app... which is about every 2 minutes!!!!). I don't know how to get Apple to listen, I've even called Support to vent my anger and ask if they know about any future fixes... and their reply??... "EVERYONE I KNOW LOVES THE NEW MAIL APP, IT ESSENTIALLY WORKS THE SAME" ... And then I start screaming. So my advice, until Apple listens, call tech support and start screaming. I am convinced if enough of us do this they will have to answer.

Oct 24, 2016 10:34 AM in response to manualoverride

Here is what I got from Apple Support!


I am sorry that you do not like the mail update with iOS 10. Sadly, there is not a way to revert back to iOS 9 that Apple supports. If you have some suggestions about the iOS 10 mail you can leave the feedback here.

If there is a functionality issue with the device, I would be happy to help troubleshoot. But in the case of not liking the updates, leaving feedback is the best place to start. Apple does not recommend to try and revert the operating system version. Apple Feedback

Oct 28, 2016 12:42 PM in response to manualoverride

I can't say this is a universal (or long term) fix, but the following seemed to solve it for me:


• Settings > Mail > toggle Most Recent Message On Top "On"

• While you're there, also toggle Organize by Thread "Off"

• Close and reopen the Mail app

• Settings > Mail > toggle Organize by Thread back "On"

• Close and reopen the Mail app


iPad Pro 9.7, iOS 10.0.2, native Mail app

Oct 28, 2016 8:51 PM in response to Jasonlseward

Unfortunately this didn't work for me. The best thing I've found, which is still significantly worse than before, was the blue arrow symbols at the main email screen. You get some form of organization, but this is still not very good. I am extremely frustrated with this issue and this update. I get well over 150 emails a day, many on the same topic. Being able to efficiently manage my emails and file the ones I no longer need to refer to and keep the ones I need to reference is critical. I was patient and thought that it was maybe just a learning curve or getting use to a new way of doing things. Not the case, this is simply bad. I truely hope Apple reverts back to the previous email functionality in a soon to be issued update.

Nov 6, 2016 4:46 AM in response to manualoverride

Fusher more, any unread message is instantly marked read as soon as you open the mail. This is a huge problem for people that are using iphones for buisness purposes. It would have been nice to have the option to have threaded messages as they used to be. This new threading is useless and now you only have thechoice of no thread or horrible thread. This needs to be fixed and the person who suggested this update ought to be given a demotion.

IOS 10 mail puts messages threads in seemingly random order

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