Homekit automation not triggering

I am really loving the new Homekit app in iOS 10. I think it is much better than the Philips Hue app I have been using to control my lights at home. However there does seem to be something wrong with the automation feature. Or else I am just missing something, in which case, I would be appreciate any help I can get.


My setup is as follows:

  • 4th gen Apple TV acting as a homekit hup
  • 1 Philips Hue bridge
  • 4 Philips Hue white bulbs
  • 1 Philips Hue Lightstrip
  • 1 iPhone and 1 iPad Mini using Homekit app to set scenes


I have several scenes set up and using the automation feature, I use the following schedule

  • Good morning - All 4 white bulbs and lightstrip on at 05:30
  • Lights off - All lights of at 08:45
  • Afternoon - All 4 white bulbs and lightstrip on at 14:30
  • Evening - 3 white bulbs and lightstrip on at 19:00
  • Good morning - All lights except lightstrip off at 22:30


The problem is that the timers don't always trigger. As far as I can tell, the lights off afternoon, evening and Good night automations work fine. But the morning automation never seems to trigger automatically. When I try to debug in the morning and play with the times and wait and see, it will sometimes trigger, sometimes not. Then I wait again for the next morning and it doesn't trigger. I even put a Light off in at 05:00, half an hour before good morning, to see if that helped, but it didn't.


Does anyone have any suggestion as to why the morning automation doesn't want to activate?

iPhone 6s, iOS 10

Posted on Sep 16, 2016 9:36 PM

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Oct 3, 2016 2:24 PM in response to ArthurGaudio

I'm having the same problem.


I have similar set up, I've used IFTTT for the last couple of years to turn the lights on at sunset and off at certain different times per room etc (I've got 18 Hue lights), today I decided to switch to the new Apple Home app and do this as I read that it will work even if internet is down if you have two-factor verification on which I do as I had to turn it on to be able to unlock my Mac with my watch.

I have an iPhone 7 with the new Philips bridge and the latest Apple TV, all devices are running latest software. I can see my Apple TV 4th gen in the Home app as a hub. I tried signing in and out on Apple TV and phone but when I create a trigger to say turn one bulb off in 5 minutes it doesnt work, I've tried lots of times today, with scenes too. If I go to the Philips app it works fine, if I go to the Elgato Eve app it works, I've also got that Home app, the third party one and it works in there too!

I've used IFTTT and its worked well but bringing as much automation as possible into my own ecosystem seems like a really good step forward.

Glad its not just me that's getting frustrated!

Oct 3, 2016 10:16 PM in response to SHIVERINGGOAT

Well the elgato and 3rd party home app use the same HomeKit technique to create triggers


so the Apple home app probably has an error in your automation

one mistake I often make is to trigger the lights to be off not on

when you ad a light to a scene, the default setting is copied from the light's current setting


so if the light is off, it will turn it off when the time occurs for the trigger

you can easily check by checking the details of the scene

Oct 4, 2016 4:25 AM in response to bereillyte

Thanks! I'm pretty sure I've set them correctly as I tried them to turn on and off lights when I was trying to triage yesterday, I know what you mean about checking them though and replicating current state. I'm going to reactivate all my IFTTT rules until this is working properly, thankfully I just disabled them so was easy to turn back on.


Looking forward to Canary releasing HomeKit cameras which is soon as going to buy a couple, I heard really good things about them and HomeKit integration is top of their development.

Thanks agin

Oct 5, 2016 9:27 AM in response to ArthurGaudio

I have been experiencing the same issue with almost the exact same set up. I changed the zigbee channel and that seemed to fix the problem until I tried to trigger my lights using my siri remote on my apple tv. Every time I asked siri to change my light settings it responded with "sorry, I can't do that." After logging out of icloud and logging back in on my apple tv the siri remote worked just fine controlling my lights. However, my time based automation started not triggering again. Very frustrating. At this point I'm going back to using the Hue app as it worked just fine. I would love to hear any other ideas on how to correct this issue in Home app (if it is correctable at all vs. a software update from Apple) but so far I'm very disappointed in the Home app.

Oct 5, 2016 10:26 AM in response to david5177

I hear you David! both timed lights and sunset setting in the Apple Home app do not work for me at all.


All I want to do is trigger 6 scenes at sunset without using IFTTT. I've also tried setting up in Elgato Eve and the selfcoded excellent 3rd party Home app but I'm baffled. I will email developer of Home app and see what he says, I'll report back. I did read somewhere that people only using Hue with HomeKit seem to have a problem.

They just released the Elgato mains plugs in the UK that are HomeKit compatible so may buy one of those and see if that makes any difference.

Oct 14, 2016 5:59 AM in response to ArthurGaudio

I'm still getting the odd one not triggering, I read that you can only trigger scenes by automation so I created a scene for when I leave in the morning and it turns off all the lights at a certain time, I've let it all settle down and not change anything for five days but I'm still getting inconsistency, this morning The trigger to turn the lights off at 8:30 AM when I took the kids to school was still on when I got back to the house so didn't work, I'm confident that I've set everything up correctly and all my devices are up-to-date with the latest software. It's just a bit odd that when I search the formups again today there aren't many people with the issues that we seem to have.

Oct 31, 2016 8:33 AM in response to alainfrommont-saint-hilaire

I've updated all my devices as well, still completely inconsistent results in triggering automation. I have given up on Home app and gone back to using Hue app for automation. Works perfectly as it did before. In my experience the Home app has been garbage. It's not like I have multiple smart home devices creating havoc either. I've got 4 Hue lights, that's it. I've tried everything from hard resetting the hub to reinstalling the apps and rebuilding all my automation settings multiple times to no avail. The most puzzling part of all this is it still seems there are few to no other people reporting this issue which gives me little to no hope it will be addressed by Apple. I absolutely cannot figure this one out. Very frustrating. Oh well, first world problems right?

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