How to use iphone 7 headphones on mac?

It literally has everything to do with how much you paid for it. When you make a huge investment like that you expect a certain amount of convenience. Why should I have to buy alllll these extra adapters and equipment when I already paid so much for the device itself? It’s ridiculous and selfish. Money hungry is what Apple is.

cannoncd1 wrote:

It literally has everything to do with how much you paid for it. When you make a huge investment like that you expect a certain amount of convenience.

Perhaps you do. I don't. More expensive is frequently not synonymous with more convenient. Just because you think it ought to be don't make it so. Consider the Lamborghini Veneno Roadster. Expensive, beautiful. Not what I'd call "convenient", though.

And yes, Apple is a for profit company.

No, the majority of people expect that.

You’re comparing apples to oranges. But you’re wrong anyway. You don’t purchase ANY car and then have to go out and purchase a stereo. It’s an included accessory. You don’t buy a car that the key fits in the ignition but not the door... you paid a lot of money, one key fits all.

Just like you shouldn’t have to buy two different headsets because it should already fit OR be included.

It’s what’s expected. It should work. Period.

cannoncd1 wrote:

No, the majority of people expect that.

Site your source for that assertion.

You’re comparing apples to oranges. But you’re wrong anyway. You don’t purchase ANY car and then have to go out and purchase a stereo. It’s an included accessory. You don’t buy a car that the key fits in the ignition but not the door... you paid a lot of money, one key fits all.

Those are both actually a fairly recent innovations, by the way. But, how about this. I spent a lot of money for my car but I had to buy a special cable to use my phone with my car stereo. Or, spend even more money to get a stereo with BlueTooth. Should I be outraged?

Again, I absolutely support your right to have a personal preference. But, trying to make it seem as if this is some sort of unethical behavior by Apple, causing all the poor iPhone users who are miserably sitting next to their Macs, to gnash their teeth in frustration because they can't use their iPhone headset with it, is just silly.

Wanting to use the same equipment which does the same thing across different devices (in this case, listen to audio through a headphone device) is a no brainer. It avoids having to carry and replace additional equipment, adapters and builds positive consumer feeling toward the brand.

Apple knows this because they are brilliant at interoperability when they do it - iMessage, AirPlay, AirDrop etc. But in this case, they did not do it and chose not to. My guess is that to offer the specs that comes with anything newer than an iPhone 6 - the trade off was dropping one of the sockets to fit more into the phone. If you chose to buy the phone, then you hopefully did it knowingly given how much press surrounded this.

In the end, it's understandable that consumers want to be able to use their headphones across devices.

ciavarella wrote:

In the end, it's understandable that consumers want to be able to use their headphones across devices.

Understandable. Which is why you can use any of the hundreds of headsets with a 3.5 mm plug on all Apple devices, including the one that came with your Mac. But there is a technological reason you can't use a Lightning headset with a 3.5 mm jack. The headset is an active device. That means it requires power to operate the 4 microcircuits in the Lightning plug. And 3.5 mm jacks don't supply any power. So, while it's an attractive idea, it is not technologically feasible.

Lawrence Finch wrote:

So, while it's an attractive idea, it is not technologically feasible.

Nor was AirDrop across iOS and macOS until it was.

Yes, you can use the hundreds of headphones on your Mac - but that is not the original posters point, not sure why there is the need to state the obvious.

Lawrence Finch wrote:

ciavarella wrote:

In the end, it's understandable that consumers want to be able to use their headphones across devices.

Understandable. Which is why you can use any of the hundreds of headsets with a 3.5 mm plug on all Apple devices, including the one that came with your Mac.

Their headphones - meaning in the context of this conversation - the ones that came with the phones. Which they cannot.

The headphones that come with the iPhone are made to be used with the iPhone or other iDevices that use the Lightning connector. I can't find anything printed by Apple that says they were designed to be used with everything.

deggie wrote:

The headphones that come with the iPhone are made to be used with the iPhone or other iDevices that use the Lightning connector. I can't find anything printed by Apple that says they were designed to be used with everything.

Exactly.

OK, here is a challenge for you. Figure out a way to get power to the Lightning connector on the headset when the only thing it connects to is a 3.5 mm jack that can't supply power. If you can solve that I'm sure Apple would be happy to learn from you.

By design they are not supported on other Apple devices, however that is exactly the frustration I pointed out in my previous post and in the four pages of other people's posts.

Appreciate this is a support forum, but anytime users are given a voice, they will use it to provide feedback on user experiences they find frustrating.

You are not very consistent. Apple did not design the Lightning connected EarPods that come with the iPhone 7 and later to work with anything other than an iDevice with a Lightning port. That would exclude computers and older devices with 30 pin connectors.

An adapter would be remotely possible but you would have to replicate the 4 chips in the current Lightning to 3.5 adapter plus include a proper power supply and either a Lithium Polymer battery with circuitry for charging it or a power supply and a connector to a USB-C or USB-A port to provide power. It is going to cost money to design it and to build it with reliable parts is probably going to result in a price point somewhere between $60 to $100 USD. Who in there right mind would buy such an adapter to use with $29.95 USD headphones? Which leads to the next problem, who is going to spend the development time to create such a product knowing it is going to be a niche product at best and will probably fail?

that's a sin that apple has made new earphones that cant even plug into a mac. they should be ashamed of themselves.

nobody every said they should cry. They should be ashamed that the headphones that they provide with the iphone aren't compatible with the other most basic Apple device that people use (a macbook).