iPhone 7 Plus Camera - Pictures are bad

I take the following picture with my new iPhone 7 Plus (only one example).


http://abload.de/img/img_01482duth.jpg


So as you can see, this is really crap.


What is the problem? Is it a Hardware of Software (10.0.2) issue?


The results of my old iPhone 6s Plus were better...

iPhone 7 Plus, iOS 10.0.2

Posted on Oct 1, 2016 5:30 AM

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Posted on Nov 1, 2016 4:04 PM

I was also less than impressed when pinching to zoom in on photos taken on my 7 Plus. After thinking that it might just be me, and a bit of user error, I persevered. However, still not happy with the level of definition in my photos, tonight I Googled "iPhone 7 Plus photos poor image quality", and found my way to this thread. I read the suggestion that to switch the setting in "Photos & Camera" from "Optimize iPhone Storage" to "Download and Keep Originals" had resulted in an improvement. I was sceptical, but gave it a try. To my surprise, it actually seems to have worked for me, too. Now granted, this was not exactly laboratory conditions, but comparing a photo taken of the same scene immediately before and after changing that setting, there is a marked improvement in the definition. It's also worth noting that so far the improvement remains even with the setting switched back to "Optimize iPhone Storage". So it does appear that, at least in some cases, the issue being experienced is the result of a stupid software bug. From what I've read, it doesn't appear to resolve the issue for all, but I'd definitely recommend changing this setting, and taking a before and after photo, to see if it results in an improvement for you.

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Oct 31, 2016 7:28 AM in response to MrBojingels

This has been a known issue since the iPhone 6 was introduced, my 5S took amazing photos and this stupid heavy noise reduction wasn't present then.


Please submit this as a bug to Apple via https://bugreport.apple.com/


This is the only way to get our points across, there are plenty of other threads of this same exact issue on here and on MacRumors.com...... This is ridiculous and is a perfect example as to why the Pixel has overtaken the iPhone as the go-to camera smartphone.

Oct 31, 2016 5:07 PM in response to chevysales

So knowing a tad bit of photography makes this a non-issue? Give me a break man, get over yourself.


If you think this is a non-issue then go take a look at the following threads:


http://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-6-noise-reduction-too-strong.1786611/

http://forums.macrumors.com/threads/raw-support-no-apple-noise-reduction.1995838 /

http://forums.macrumors.com/threads/update-9-3-camera-quality-improvement.196271 0/

iPhone 6 noise reduction and sharpening excessive


This is a widespread issue, most users don't realize it because they snap a picture, look at it and think it looks perfectly fine. That's fine for the average user but to those of us that also know a thing or two about photography we can all see there's too much noise reduction going on and it destroys the fine details. Shooting RAW by-passes this of course but to say this isn't an issue is just ridiculous.

Nov 1, 2016 9:54 AM in response to MrBojingels

I have this problem, too! Currently have a 5S and was going to upgrade to the 7. Played around with the camera at the Apple Store and compared images taken with it and with my 5S -- EXPECTING to see much better images with he 7. To my amazement, the images were WORSE on the 7. Way oversharpened and generally unpleasing. From reading this forum, I realize how it's actually way too aggressive of noise reduction.


I have an iPad Pro 9.7" with a 12 MP camera at home. Under iOS 10, it also takes these same kind of strange photos. My theory is this: It's not the iPhone 7, it's ANY of the 12 MP iPhones or iPads (including the 6/6S/7/SE and the Plus variants, along with the iPad Pro 9.7) running iOS 10. But not the 8 MP camera iPhone 5S running iOS 10.


Apple, fix this!!!


For now, I'm keeping my 5S.

Nov 8, 2016 7:45 AM in response to piotrek_pe

I tested lightroom JPG quality that is saved to camera roll from DNG without any modifications. This is what i got. The camera app photo is less than 1MB and the lightroom is almost 2.5MB. It is easy to spot the difference with the depth of field fragments and the edges. But the best comparison is the photo of my kid's lips where you can clearly see the difference.


http://i.imgur.com/f5yqpRo.jpg


upper photo iPhone / lower photo Nexus 5x

http://i.imgur.com/WDSuUur.jpg

Dec 2, 2016 10:04 AM in response to MrBojingels

I've been looking at this since noticing just how poor dim lighted photographs are. I am a photographer and want to make the most use of RAW in iOS, most of the portraits I've taken indoors with the standard app have been truly terrible. Trying to mimic the standard app using third party apps like ProCamera doesn't work, for obvious proprietary locked down API reasons.


With the 7+ it seems there is a lot more to think about particularly where the telephoto lens is concerned. Please read through the iMore article below.


So I've been using ProCamera 10 and noticed the Dual mode lens option, which appears to mimic the "portrait" mode in the standard app doesn't take RAW photos which ***** big time. The explanation is in the second link below.


Looking at a lot of images here the combination of these two links, to me, explains the issue. I think for the likes of ProCamera the sooner they have access to the API that allows RAW capture using dual lenses the better.


When I have an SLR I know what settings to use in all environments and tweak as necessary, for my iPhone I want to take this out capture a moment and know I have a RAW file to manipulate later.


http://www.imore.com/iphone-7-plus-telephoto-wont-shoot-low-light-situations


https://www.procamera-app.com/en/blog/dual-camera-iphone-7-plus-procamera/

http://www.imore.com/iphone-7-plus-telephoto-wont-shoot-low-light-situations

Dec 3, 2016 3:53 AM in response to Community User

I've been comparing samples from my iPhone 7 using the stock camera and ACDSee Camera Pro, and an old LG G3. Same internal scene, same composition (sorry, no images yet). Here's what I noticed, all EXIF info reported by Google Photos:


A. iPhone stock app: f/1.8, ISO 32, shutter 1/50, file size 2.1MB. Some watercolour effect, most noticeable on skin texture and items that were not focussed.


B. ACDSee Camera Pro (Sharpening 25, Clarity 15, JPEG quality - Standard): f/1.8, ISO 25, shutter 1/50, file size 2.6MB. Considerably less watercoloring, but still apparent.


C. ACDSee Camera Pro (RAW, converted to JPG by Google Photos): f/1.8, ISO 50, shutter 1/35, file size 11MB/2.2MB (RAW/JPG). No hint of the watercolour effect, as expected. Note, Google Photos automatically converted this to a JPG file with file size 2.2MB


D. ACDSee Camera Pro (JPG derived automatically from RAW file - NOT a DNG preview): f/1.8, ISO 50, shutter 1/33, file size 2.8MB. ***?! The worst case of the watercolour effect I've seen from an iPhone. It's more like poster paint.


E. LGG3 Stock Camera: f/2.4, ISO 100, shutter 1/30. On par with image B.


I'm beginning to think that one contributing factor to this issue is the wider aperture on the iPhone. As most photographers know, a wider aperture results in a much shallower depth of field.

Dec 5, 2016 6:50 PM in response to MrBojingels

Hey guys, so I too commented a few days ago in the same frustration. Since then I've realized that for some pictures to come out better, the lighting needs to be good and your camera focused on your subject well with the proper exposure for your shots. Also to be able to take advantage of taking pictures in RAW format on the iPhone 7 you'll have to use a third party app that offers that feature. I think taking pictures in RAW format will began to take up more space than a regular jpeg image, but in RAW format you do get the full resolution of your images a lot better.

Dec 10, 2016 9:21 AM in response to MrBojingels

Might it be useful to post the date of manufacture of our iPhone? We might discover those made after a certain date are more likely to be plagued by this problem. I've used this application (Mac only) to find the manufature date: http://www.coconut-flavour.com/coconutid/. You could also use this website: http://www.chipmunk.nl/klantenservice/applemodel.html.


The images from my phone are not too bad, even in low light, but still exhibit some waterpaint effect, though not nearly as much as shown in some of the posts.


My iPhone 7 256GB version was made between 19 and 25 September, apparently.

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