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Sierra Mail - Remove Attachments doesn't work!

Hello,


In macOS Sierra the Mail function "Remove Attachments" (Message menu) no longer works!


Until now, when I received emails containing many large photos I always saved the photos seperately,

then removed them from the emails.


Now when I receive such an email, the photos are no longer displayed as attachments,

and can no longer be removed.


How can this be fixed?


Many thanks.

Posted on Oct 10, 2016 2:31 AM

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Jul 22, 2017 11:42 AM in response to coxorange

Editing with TexEdit the .emlx file in the directory /Users/Username/Library/Mail/V4/Mailboxes

seems to be the only way to remove attachments from any email so far.


Just be aware that in doing this you need to know what you are doing

it's not for beginners or you could end up ruining everything: do a backup and experiment it first on one email you don't care, like have someone send you an email with a small attachment.


Open the email, delete just the attachment below your message, save it, close Mail, re-launch Mail, and the attachment has gone.

I discovered that finding the .emlx file it's easier than it seems:


1) Quit Mail and open the folder V4 in /Users/Username/Library/Mail/V4/

2) write in the search field the Subject of the email you are looking for:

magically the email appears with the name of the sender or the senders if you have more than one email

with the same words. Choose the one you were looking for

User uploaded file

3) drag the email on TexEdit

4) find the attachment : it will look like garbled text- something like


/9j/4UcWRXhpZgAATU0AKgAAAAgACwEPAAIAAAAGAAAAkgEQAAIAAAAPAAAA

mAESAAMAAAABAAEAmAESAAMAAAABAAEAmAESAAMAAAABAAEA


It will be very long, depending how big is the attachment


5) Select it all but stop before you get to something similar to

--Apple-Mail-CA458EBA-4B87-4995-8B30-3FC1A217

Content-Type: text/plain;

charset=us-ascii

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

5) delete your selection and restart Mail


Your email is clean of any attachment.

Dec 24, 2017 11:15 AM in response to annabelle

There is one more folder that needs to be cleaned

Just open Mail Downloads -see picture for path

User uploaded file

Once there you can delete all folders with no regrets:

everytime you open any attachment you received, Mail creates

a new folder inside of Mail Downloads, with unreadable names like this:

8BF381A3-80CA-4D68-BC71-31DAB1BE246B.

A lot of space wasted, but easy to clean time to time


Happy Holidays!

Jan 11, 2017 3:21 PM in response to coxorange

Doesn't help but I'm also seeing this issue and only on the POP account - basically sent mail from either POP or IMAP still show the Paperclip and therefore the menu bar option to remove attachments is active - but Inbox for POP has no clip and the option to remove attachments is greyed out, IMAP Inbox is still ok and shows the clip.


Looking back through the POP Inbox it appears this issue started Sept/Oct 2016, prior to that I still have the clip on any mail that has attachments, and the ability to remove from the menu bar.


This is another post regarding same issue OS Sierra Mail not showing Paper Clip icon for Attachments


I've reported via Apple Bug Reporter but have not had a response yet, but if others have also done this would expect mine to be cancelled as a duplicate (Case number 29964955).

Jan 16, 2017 5:48 AM in response to Bruce 55

Bruce 55 wrote:



Complain to apple?


How does one do that really?


I have filled out the report at the link further up the thread as I am sure many have also but really are they going to listen.




You could try and sign up to "Apple Bug Reporting" https://developer.apple.com/bug-reporting/ - not sure if non developers can access (a part of the site) or not, but you just enter your Apple ID and password so it's worth a try.


But would advise if you are able to access to follow the guides/rules, report only the facts with as much supporting info as possible (screen shots, list of steps leading to the issue, os and app version, log files if requested etc) - and it goes without saying "no complaining".

Jan 16, 2017 2:28 PM in response to SiHancox

I have ,as stated in my post, reported this to the link on page 3 of this thread http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html in an appropriate manner and I will attempt to also report as a bug per your suggestion however it is time for a little complaint as well. Too often software developers in the name of updating product ruin perfectly good work flows and systems and in later years of Mac operating systems this seems to be more common. In years past you could alwyas look forward to updating your OS and do so with confidence but now not the case.


I waited quiet some time before updating to Sierra searching the forums for reported problems and solutions before I upgraded but unfortunately I missed this one and it is a deal breaker for me.

Feb 6, 2017 3:55 AM in response to 750 H2C

I can confirm, after close to a month, that removing my HTML signature took care of all my problems related to removing attachments from messages, both incoming and outgoing.


In one of the other threads discussing this topic, a brilliant forum user found out that one of the subproblems had something to do with content encoding. For a while, I used a manual tweak to edit messages in Text Edit to make them behave correctly, which worked just fine. So to me, there seems to be a plausible connection between content encoding and the use of HTML signatures, and I'm happy to be safe for the moment. 🙂


But I also realise that my problem situation might be totally unique, and that my solution is not valid for anyone else. Mail is apparently a melting pot of all kinds of bugs and messy code.

Jul 23, 2017 2:13 PM in response to annabelle

Hi Annabelle,


Thanks, I tried it, I found something like the following (see below).

What exactly should I remove?

BTW: I would like to have a note in the document mentioning the name of the attached file

which had been removed, just like Mail did it until it stopped working.

Thanks again!


[...]

X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273)





--Apple-Mail=_5143F4D3-D45B-4524-A98E-48719A95C8DB

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Content-Type: text/plain;

charset=us-ascii



line 1 before jpg



line2 after jpg





--Apple-Mail=_5143F4D3-D45B-4524-A98E-48719A95C8DB

Content-Type: multipart/related;

type="text/html";

boundary="Apple-Mail=_AD31BC74-A15D-49FA-BB90-866238C13EDA"





--Apple-Mail=_AD31BC74-A15D-49FA-BB90-866238C13EDA

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Content-Type: text/html;

charset=us-ascii



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--Apple-Mail=_AD31BC74-A15D-49FA-BB90-866238C13EDA

Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64

Content-Disposition: inline;

filename=test.jpg

Content-Type: image/jpeg;

x-unix-mode=0644;

name="test.jpg"

Content-Id: <F4CCD32C-5114-4CF1-94F0-A37AF663DC20@home.gateway>



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Jul 24, 2017 8:41 AM in response to annabelle

Thank you, I tried it.


1. After only deleting the section the jpg was still displayed.


2. After deleting the four lines referring to the image too, there was still an attachment icon in the mail, but clicking on it didn't open anything.


3. After removing the entire section beginning with ---Apple-Mail (which had included the 4 lines) there was only a little missing-image image displayed.


4. I had difficulties adding the note describing which file had been manually removed.

Even though I had added it in the text area, it is not displayed in the mail.

Probably it would be required to edit the "text length info" somewhere in the mail?

This makes it unusable for me, because I need the reference to the image file's name (which I store separately in image libraries).


5. For someone who doesn't care and wants to use this method: It does not yet actually remove the image which is still somewhere in the V4 folder. If you want to remove attachments to save space, it wouldn't make sense without removing the image file too manually.


I've just updated to the new macOS Sierra version 10.12.6 and checked if the "Remove Attachments" problem had been resolved, but NO! Still not. Please everybody, report your feedback about this nuisance AGAIN to Apple - Feedback - Mail - Apple - maybe it helps.

Jan 11, 2017 8:54 AM in response to coxorange

I've had problems with the Remove Attachments command for years. Slight variations over time, but always some defect. Either the command has been greyed out, or it hasn't had any effect, or it has corrupted the email messages beyond recognition. All variations have been covered in different threads in this forum.


Today, with Sierra, the command mostly works but I'm very often left with a tiny attachment consisting of a text file saying that the attachment has been removed (thanks, great info). In some cases, the command won't bite and I can't get rid of the attachment.


Now I've stumbled on something that might shed some light over this murky business. I've had an HTML signature for many years. Now I've replaced it with a text-only version. And: after that I've had no trouble with the Remove Attachments command. Let's see if this nice situation prevails. Probably not.

Jan 11, 2017 12:57 PM in response to 750 H2C

Hi

750 H2C wrote:

I've had problems with the Remove Attachments command for years. Slight variations over time, but always some defect. Either the command has been greyed out, or it hasn't had any effect, or it has corrupted the email messages beyond recognition. All variations have been covered in different threads in this forum.

I had only reported regarding POP accounts. Which type did you use?

There were issues with Yosemite (yes, even with corruptions!),

but for me all had been resolved with El Capitan! ... until now... 😕


Today, with Sierra, the command mostly works but I'm very often left with a tiny attachment consisting of a text file saying that the attachment has been removed (thanks, great info). In some cases, the command won't bite and I can't get rid of the attachment.

Makes sense for me (as long as I can use it with copies in the Sent folder):

Double-clicking on these tiny text files gives information about the file name(s) of the attachment(s) which had been removed. Maybe valuable in the future.


Now I've stumbled on something that might shed some light over this murky business. I've had an HTML signature for many years. Now I've replaced it with a text-only version. And: after that I've had no trouble with the Remove Attachments command. Let's see if this nice situation prevails. Probably not.

Please can someone else confirm that?

I wouldn't want to remove my HTML signature in vain (was a lot of work to get it right!).


Hmmm... How can the existence of a HTML signature (I'm using one - sometimes), though not used, influence if attachments of received emails arrive inline, and therefore are unremovable?

Jan 11, 2017 11:28 PM in response to coxorange

coxorange wrote:


I had only reported regarding POP accounts. Which type did you use?

There were issues with Yosemite (yes, even with corruptions!),

but for me all had been resolved with El Capitan! ... until now... 😕

Always been on IMAP. El C was a step up, definitely, resolving the major issues. But the tiny problems left unresolved – or added – are pretty annoying too. And the irregularity of it all is probably the worst thing about it. I have filed a couple of error reports.

Jan 12, 2017 3:35 AM in response to SiHancox

SiHancox wrote:

Looking back through the POP Inbox it appears this issue started Sept/Oct 2016...

Probably after you've upgraded to Sierra.

I've reported via Apple Bug Reporter but have not had a response yet, but if others have also done this would expect mine to be cancelled as a duplicate (Case number 29964955).

Good! It's normal that you don't get a direct response, but they read it - and hopefully take action!

Jan 12, 2017 4:37 AM in response to coxorange

Must admit only just noticed the issue, if it wasn't for a few recent posts talking about the problem would probably still be ignorant of it! - so it just goes to show how little I use the "remove attachment" function, tend to just delete the mail altogether after saving what I need.


Still, overall, quite happy with Sierra, the issues (all minor) can be counted on one hand - it's just when one gets sorted another usually pops up and it's more often than not an issue thats cropped up previously on another OS release. Why do Apple keep putting there foot in it!

Jan 13, 2017 10:05 AM in response to gdyson

I have been watching what you all write in the hopes someone had found an answer. I reported the problem to Apple before the last update and had hoped it would get solved but those attachments are now wasting huge amounts of space and really, who has time to resend all the messages with attachments to oneself in order to be able to remove them? Needless to say I have had no reply from Apple. I can't believe such a simple but fundamental glitch has not been sorted.😕😮

Sierra Mail - Remove Attachments doesn't work!

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