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2016 macbook pro 15" with touch bar poor battery life

I just received my new 15" MacBook Pro with touch bar. The battery life is horrible!!! I have Safari open with 6 tabs and with 95% battery, I am told that I have under 3 hours of battery life left! I thought these things were supposed to get 10 hours? I ran the battery down in 3 hours last night only browsing the web. I wasn't watching videos, just browsing. Is there something wrong with my laptop?

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Posted on Nov 20, 2016 10:07 AM

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Posted on Mar 5, 2017 11:31 AM

Hey everyone,


Received a new MacBook Pro with Touch Bar 15" as well, and like several of you, was shocked by the short battery life, even with the software updates. After some extensive trial and error, I have remedied my battery woes! Sharing out in case it helps any of you.


The largest change in my case was as some suggested, an SMC reset AND a NVRAM Reset. After doing both, my time remaining shot from 3-4 hours to 9-10 hours and even longer with further tweaks. I was shocked, but was able to verify the change based on using the Battery Guru app. The Milliamp output has been cut nearly in half to ~600 and the machine is significantly cooler during light usage. See below.


A little background:

  • As mentioned, my average was 3-4 hours with light usage. This was playing Spotify, writing emails, and surfing Safari only.
  • I have been using Fruitjuice and Battery Guru to monitor and verify usage time and energy output. Both put the machine at roughly 3-4 hours of battery time and on BG, I had an average ~1100 Milliamp output.
  • Assuming the higher output was the screen, kept brightness to 75% and reduced keyboard lighting to its lowest setting.
  • Confirmed Spotlight, Photos and iCloud had finished indexing before making a judgement.
  • Even after all of the above, still 3-4 hours.


But then: I noticed something was amiss when charging the device. The last time I did so, I found the machine running hot and I noticed the fan was going nuts. That lead to the SMC and NVRam reset. After doing so, voila! 9-10+ hours of battery life!


But not only that, I've been able to extend the battery even more so, doing some additional suggestions that the forums have suggested.:


  • Revisited my startup apps in Login Items and removed things like Skype for Business, Adobe Creative Cloud and several update checkers. Though several of these were negligible, some suggested S4B and Adobe may be eating up more resources and some have reported improvements.
  • Due to the recharge incident, I decided to disable Power Nap while on battery. I'm going to see if I run into the issue again while Power Nap is on charge, will report if it occurs again.
  • Download Turbo Boost Switcher to disable Turbo Boost. I found this adds around an hour of battery life back and the milliamp output can drop around 400 during light usage. Performance doesn't seem to be affected when doing light usage. I turn it back on when I'm working on more intensive applications or plugged in.
  • I keep my keyboard lighting low and brightness around 75%.


Anyway, that's been my experience, and I'm now very happy with the machine and thrilled that I don't feel the battery anxiety I once had. It would seem that there is something glitchy in either the hardware and software still, but hopefully it's just a SMC/NVRAM reset fix for many.


Good luck out there.

G

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Nov 22, 2016 6:54 AM in response to cab5g

If you bought it direct from Apple, you can return or change it at an Apple Store, except when you bought it refurbished (which requires return to source in case of D.O.A.


If you bought it from a Reseller, you need to discuss your options with the Reseller, not direct with Apple. Apple will repair it anywhere, but you can only return/exchange machines you bought direct from Apple.

Nov 22, 2016 7:19 AM in response to lux2aeterna

In my case battery performance was actually worse than my 2012 retina macbook pro with original battery.


I took my macbook pro to the genius bar yesterday and they saw the same issue with the battery life showing anywhere from 3-5 hours remaining on a nearly full charge with only the web browser open.


I used the data migration assistant and they claim it could be because of incompatible SW versions or library files from my old mac. So they re-imaged my machine and the battery life was showing 6 hours remaining with no applications open and 85% battery left. You'd expect it to be closer to 8.5 hours with the rated 10 hours. So there is definitely something going on. They even looked for applications that were using more energy and saw none.


Apple seems to have escalated my issue and they are going to "capture" my laptop. They will be shipping me a replacement (which may take weeks, but they claim they can expedite that to about a week). I was tempted to just return mine because of the 14 day return policy. However, apparently the holiday return policy applies since my device was shipped last week. I have until January 8 to return my laptop or the one they replace it with if the battery life still remains poor.


I am in the process of manually migrating my data instead of using the migration assistant and I will install my main applications manually as well. I will update if somehow the battery miraculously starts getting anywhere near the rated battery life.

Nov 22, 2016 7:28 AM in response to cab5g

Okay, I've now seen this for myself. I'm certain that this is a firmware/software problem, with the computer incorrectly reporting the battery status – both to the user and to itself. It shuts down because it incorrectly thinks it's going to run out of power, not because the battery really has a low capacity and needs replacing. I'm sure this will be all over the Mac news sites in the next week or so, and then Apple will issue an update.

Nov 23, 2016 6:44 AM in response to Michael Fuhrmann

Yes, evaluating the 15" MacBook Pro (and mine came to $3100), running a few Safari tabs, Mail, Outlook, Messages, Slack, Evernote, and Terminal, and my battery is showing 3:30 remaining at 97%. Activity Monitor shows 96% idle.


I seriously hope that this can be resolved through an update, because this is not impressive.


FYI - running 10.12.1, and this was a clean setup, no migration assistant used.

Nov 23, 2016 7:57 AM in response to cab5g

Well, it was easy to get rid of one possible cause of the problem: I used Boot Camp and installed Windows 10. Windows 10 reports battery life similar to that of macOS 10.12. And the battery life drops at about the same rate as macOS 10.12 if you're doing roughly the same things (playing a movie while browsing web pages in Safari/Edge). So it it's a but in macOS then precisely the same bug occurs in Windows 10.


However ...


When I started my tests (one in each OS) the predictors said that the battery would last another 3 hours 20 minutes. I ran my tests for 30 minutes. And after 30 minutes the predictors said that the batter would last another 3 hours and 10 minutes (not quite to the minute but close enough). So in both OSes the predicted battery life dropped 10 minutes in 30 minutes of use.


This suggests to me that the problem is not with low battery capacity, but with the prediction system. The prediction system uses the charge remaining in the battery, and the current drain rate, to predict how much longer the computer can function. The problem is this: the figure for the charge remaining the battery is not digitally produced by the battery. Instead it is a calculation based on the PD across the battery and graded on a curve. The curve has to be custom-created by the manufacturer based on their knowledge of how the battery preforms in real life. The curve is stored in firmware.


The computer uses the same result you do for its judgement. If it thinks that the battery will last less than another (for example) five minutes it will put the computer to hibernate mode. So if the curve is faulty, so is the computer's judgement about when the computer should hibernate.


My guess, based on the above, is that the battery does have something like whatever capacity Apple claims it does; the battery's power/charge curve, or some other part of power assessment, is incorrect in firmware; and that Apple will release a user-installable fix correcting this rather than repairing or replacing these computers.

Nov 23, 2016 9:25 AM in response to LidoShuffling

+1 for battery life disappointment. My 13" MBP (w/ Touch Bar, 3.3GHz i7, 16GB, MacOS 10.12.2) is consistently getting 5.5hrs of actual use - I have run several battery cycles from 100% until it dies. I have been on wifi and purposely not doing anything taxing (mail, safari, notes, message, and a couple other apps). I called Apple Support on Monday and they did a a couple diagnostic checks before making me a Genius Bar (GB) appt. GB did not know what to do - I was the first 2016 MBP they had seen. Machine is great otherwise. How do you enable solar power on the touch bar? 😐

Nov 24, 2016 9:48 AM in response to LidoShuffling

On my new 15" MBP (a $4,000 version) it's not just the predicted time that's bad it's the actual time. I charged to 100% then unplugged, I used the computer to surf the web with only Outlook running in the background. After 2 hours, I got the message that my battery was low (menu bar said 14% left). Within another 15 minutes it shut down. Activity monitor says that Safari was using a lot of power and I'm finding I can't quit Safari, I can only force-quit it, whenever I run it. I reset the SMC (or whatever it's called) and now I'm getting nearly 3 hours of battery life! (I guess that's "almost" 10). After recharging to 100% then unplugging, and with no programs running (except coming to this site on Chrome instead of Safari) and the screen at about half brightness, Activity Monitor says right now says that the computer has been on for 2 hours 10 minutes and has 1 hour 18 minutes of time remaining. Very concerning.

Nov 25, 2016 6:15 AM in response to cab5g

Finally! Early adopters of new machinery where you have a potential issue and wonder if anyone else is having It but you wait for ages for forums to appear!




The answer is YES! I'm having pretty horrendous and erratic battery life/estimated time remaining on my 15' Touch Bar MacBook Pro with 2.9ghz and Radeon Pro 460 GPU. I initially thought that having the higher specced graphics card would eat into the battery but I didn't know they switched between the 2 automatically (my last Mac of 5 years didn't do this) depending on what app I'm using.


Im glad im not alone on this one. I don't want to have to go through the faff of returning another new Apple product. The last 3 new ones I bought. iPad Pro, iPhone and an Apple TV were all replaced. Im either just unlucky or Apples QC is down the toilet


Either way I'm currently sitting on 35% battery and I'm getting 49 min predicted left. There is definitely a software issue here. Even if the prediction is wrong it still wants to put the machine to sleep. So our machines could be sleeping even if there is another 2 hours of juice left in them.


The more noise made about this issue the quicker Apple will take not of it. I will follow this thread closely



This was what I was getting earlier on web browsing. Pretty poor if you ask me!


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