Sierra Scroll Wheel Not Functioning

When I turn the mouse scroll wheel one increment at a time the computer does not react at all. I could scroll slowly 100 times, and the computer still wouldn't react. I have to turn the wheel several increments rapidly so as to scroll on screen. This means that it is virtually impossible to slowly scroll through a document, or to zoom smoothly in Vectorworks & Photoshop etc.

3rd Party software instantly solves the problem (e.g. USB Overdrive) but is causing compatibility issues with Vectorworks, so I have had to uninstall.

I'm using a Macally Bumpermouse, but the problem is identical with Dell, Logitech and Acer mice too.

Has anyone found a solution here? Seems like a real issue with Sierra.

iMac with Retina 5K display, macOS Sierra (10.12.1)

Posted on Dec 8, 2016 9:09 AM

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Dec 9, 2016 1:48 AM in response to JimmyCMPIT

As advised, ran EtreCheck, results are below. This is problem is identical accross all five iMacs our office purchased 2 weeks ago, using a variety of different USB mice. Any help appreciated.


EtreCheck version: 3.1.5 (343)

Report generated 2016-12-09 09:40:30

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Runtime 2:02

Performance: Excellent


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Problem: Other problem

Description:

Scrolling mouse wheel one increment at a time yields no on screen response. User must scroll several increments rapidly to scroll/zoom on screen.


Hardware Information: ⓘ

iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2015)

[Technical Specifications] - [User Guide] - [Warranty & Service]

iMac - model: iMac17,1

1 3.2 GHz Intel Core i5 (i5-6500) CPU: 4-core

16 GB RAM Upgradeable - [Instructions]

BANK 0/DIMM0

8 GB DDR3 1867 MHz ok

BANK 0/DIMM1

Empty

BANK 1/DIMM0

8 GB DDR3 1867 MHz ok

BANK 1/DIMM1

Empty

Bluetooth: Good - Handoff/Airdrop2 supported

Wireless: en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac


Video Information: ⓘ

AMD Radeon R9 M380 - VRAM: 2048 MB

iMac 5120 x 2880


System Software: ⓘ

macOS Sierra 10.12.1 (16B2555) - Time since boot: less than an hour


Disk Information: ⓘ

APPLE HDD ST1000DM003 disk0 : (1 TB) (Rotational)

[Show SMART report]

EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB

Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted> [Recovery]: 650 MB

Macintosh HD (disk1) / [Startup]: 998.99 GB (899.53 GB free)

Core Storage: disk0s2 999.35 GB Online


USB Information: ⓘ

Broadcom Corp. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)

WIBU-SYSTEMS AG, www.wibu.com WIBU-BOX/RU

Macally Peripherals Macally BUMPERMOUSE

Apple, Inc. Keyboard Hub

Apple Inc. Apple Keyboard


Thunderbolt Information: ⓘ

Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus


Gatekeeper: ⓘ

Anywhere


System Launch Agents: ⓘ

[not loaded] 7 Apple tasks

[loaded] 172 Apple tasks

[running] 92 Apple tasks


System Launch Daemons: ⓘ

[not loaded] 40 Apple tasks

[loaded] 157 Apple tasks

[running] 105 Apple tasks


Launch Agents: ⓘ

[not loaded] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist (2016-11-21) [Support]

[failed] com.adobe.ARMDCHelper.cc24aef4a1b90ed56a725c38014c95072f92651fb65e1bf9c8e43c37a 23d420d.plist (2016-11-12) [Support]

[running] com.adobe.AdobeCreativeCloud.plist (2016-11-11) [Support]

[loaded] com.google.keystone.agent.plist (2016-12-02) [Support]


Launch Daemons: ⓘ

[loaded] com.adobe.ARMDC.Communicator.plist (2016-11-12) [Support]

[loaded] com.adobe.ARMDC.SMJobBlessHelper.plist (2016-11-12) [Support]

[running] com.adobe.adobeupdatedaemon.plist (2016-11-11) [Support]

[running] com.adobe.agsservice.plist (2016-11-13) [Support]

[loaded] com.google.keystone.daemon.plist (2016-12-02) [Support]


User Launch Agents: ⓘ

[loaded] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist (2016-11-21) [Support]

[running] com.spotify.webhelper.plist (2016-12-08) [Support]


User Login Items: ⓘ

iTunesHelper Application (2016-11-11)

(/Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/MacOS/iTunesHelper.app)

Mail Application

(/Applications/Mail.app)

Calendar Application

(/Applications/Calendar.app)

HLA_Projects Volume

(/Volumes/HLA_Projects)

Google Drive Application

(/Applications/Google Drive.app)

USBOverdriveHelper Application

(~/.Trash/USB Overdrive.prefPane/Contents/Resources/USBOverdriveHelper.app)


Internet Plug-ins: ⓘ

AdobePDFViewerNPAPI: 15.020.20042 - SDK 10.11 (2016-11-21) [Support]

AdobePDFViewer: 15.020.20042 - SDK 10.11 (2016-11-21) [Support]

QuickTime Plugin: 7.7.3 (2016-11-11)

AdobeAAMDetect: 3.0.0.0 - SDK 10.9 (2016-11-11) [Support]


3rd Party Preference Panes: ⓘ

None


Time Machine: ⓘ

Time Machine not configured!


Top Processes by CPU: ⓘ

38% mdworker(17)

10% WindowServer

10% mds

6% trustd(3)

4% ocspd


Top Processes by Memory: ⓘ

1.57 GB Google Chrome Helper(8)

1.12 GB kernel_task

770 MB Mail

557 MB mdworker(17)

311 MB Finder


Virtual Memory Information: ⓘ

9.77 GB Available RAM

3.81 GB Free RAM

6.23 GB Used RAM

5.96 GB Cached files

0 B Swap Used


Diagnostics Information: ⓘ

Dec 9, 2016, 09:10:21 AM Self test - passed

Dec 8, 2016, 02:42:07 PM /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/Microsoft Excel_2016-12-08-144207_[redacted].hang

/Applications/Microsoft Office 2008/Microsoft Excel.app/Contents/MacOS/Microsoft Excel

Dec 7, 2016, 05:38:12 PM ~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/Preview_2016-12-07-173812_[redacted].crash

com.apple.Preview - /Applications/Preview.app/Contents/MacOS/Preview

Dec 6, 2016, 04:06:38 PM ~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/com.apple.WebKit.WebContent_2016-12-06-160638_ [redacted].crash

/System/Library/Frameworks/WebKit.framework/Versions/A/XPCServices/com.apple.We bKit.WebContent.xpc/Contents/MacOS/com.apple.WebKit.WebContent

Dec 9, 2016 5:45 AM in response to rosholto

not seeing anything that scream get me off but I would consider getting rid of Spotify for office computers and anything with an SSD

https://community.spotify.com/t5/Ongoing-Issues/Major-I-O-write-bytes-on-the-Spo tify-Desktop-app-It-will-kill/idc-p/1365378#M25879

and your google apps, google can tend to write apps that have no concern with besieging a CPU for no apparent reason.


I would also advise against things like USB Overdirve in a production environment. OS X already can manage USB devices and you are looking to a developer who is circumventing functionality from what Apple has developed and he is not working in conjunction with Apple and his testing may not be concurrent with the OS or with your Applications you are working with. For home do what you want but I personally stay clear of this stuff for production.


Aside from that you appear to be running some sort of USB dongle.


I would shut down, disconnect all external devices except OEM keyboard and mouse then boot into safe mode

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201262

if the problem does not reappear the conflict is one or a combination of devices connected to the Mac, the next step would be to reintroduce one component at a time and reboot each time. If you can determine the cause you should speak with the developer solely because if it's 10.12.1 doing this Apple is NOT going to fix their OS for 3rd party problems anytime soon for anyone.

Dec 9, 2016 7:08 AM in response to rosholto

Spotify can produce unnecessary network overhead for an office and without knowing if the other system used HD or SSD, or if you updated Spotifiy or were using an older version I recommend removing it as I had latency with i7 iMacs and getting rid of Spotify cleared it on systems.


If you can get the computer back to as close to a factory boot as possible and see if the problem was addressed then re-adding 3rd party software as you go it might give some hint as to what is causing this.

Dec 9, 2016 7:19 AM in response to dialabrain

I can check and I already have 3rd party mice running in Sierra 10.12.1 in a production environment and no one has reported this problem, I just deployed two system this week with MS mice running 10.12.1, they are working as expected, and they replaced Lenovo mice I gave out while I was waiting the for the MS mice to ship and the users reported no problem, the Lenovo's are not a graphic artist device of choice and that was the only reason I pulled them.

Your linked post had one response in 3 months so if that is enough for you to draw the conclusion the OS is at fault thats' your assessment, but I'm not seeing this in at least three systems; one that I personally use constantly so I'm thinking there may be a 3rd party issue to those effected, and the sole response in the link you provide was a mention the USBOverdrive which the OP mentioned as having installed, and I suggested be removed to test.


If you wish to discuss the merits of the beta please do so in the developer forum so this thread doesn't become a TOS violation.

Dec 9, 2016 7:37 AM in response to JimmyCMPIT

Jimmy, just to clarify. There have been a number of posts about problems with slow scrolling with third-party mice. I use the wired Apple Mouse with the scroll button on all my iMacs and I can scroll one pixel at a time. I forgot my g/f has a cheap mouse with a scroll wheel. It has the same issue as described here and elsewhere on Sierra. I checked it on the latest dev version of Sierra but since you reminded me, I won't mention the results.

Dec 9, 2016 7:51 AM in response to JimmyCMPIT

Well, the more I work with Sierra and users the more it seems there is some randomness unrelated to software conflicts. For example I have six installs of Sierra, 2 clean, 2 dirty and 2 dev. None of them show the display settings for the keyboard shortcuts yet I created a Sierra VM and it does. It seems many others don't see the display settings yet some do. It's a mystery. 😎

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