"insufficient bandwidth" error

I just tried a video iChat with my father yesterday. The video chats always failed (no matter who was doing the inviting) with an "insufficient bandwidth" error

He's got a Mac PowerBook G4 (not sure of the OS or the iChat version) and a cable modem with good speed (he checked it with the test at http://www.theedge.ca/myspeed/ and got the typical cable modem listed results). He's also got a wireless system running, but I don't have any information about that.

I've got a MacBook Pro with DSL and good speed (I checked it with the test at http://www.theedge.ca/myspeed/ and got the typical DSL listed results). I've got a wireless system in my house, but have always been able to video chat with my mother (on her iBook) and sister (on her PC) with no problems.

Any tips on correcting this problem?

I found a thread ( http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=2415810&#2415810) that gave this as a fix for that error:

Set Quicktime preferences.
Goto System Preferences / Quicktime / Streaming and change streaming speed to your download speed (don't go higher than 1.5 mbps, get your down load speed from the test at the web site:
http://www.theedge.ca/myspeed/).

Then goto iChat's prefences / video / bandwidth limit and change to NONE.

Does that look like the right fix.

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Posted on Dec 24, 2006 3:38 PM

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Jan 27, 2007 5:01 PM in response to Ralph-Johns-UK

If both ends are using NAT based methods to open the
ports (Port Forwarding, Port Triggering or DMZ) then
there are more likely to be problems.


Okay, thanks. That seems to explain things. My mom in AZ has a DSL modem/wireless router combo and things work with her. My sister in IL has a DSL modem and ethernet cable to PC and things work with her. Another friend in IL has a cable modem and ethernet cable to PC and things work with him. Recently I was traveling and on the road hooked up to a university ethernet output and iChatted back home. My dad is currently the only one on the other end using a cable modem and wireless router combo. So that's the difference.

As the appleu3test accounts seem to work with anyone
then the logic is that they are not using NAT.


One of then should in order to assist people in working through these problems.

Jan 27, 2007 6:37 PM in response to James Elliott1

Hi James,

Your router (SMC) has UPnP enabled by default. You should not have to change any settings. What you could try is to reset it. That often solves problems.
If you want to reset the router there should be an inset button near the back that you have to use a toothpick, or needle to push. After that it should restart and be set to factory defaults.
In case you want to access it: 192.168.2.1.

JP

Jan 28, 2007 5:01 AM in response to James Elliott1

Okey dokey,

IN the Efficient device.

Take out the 8th entry as 1 should cover it.
Take out the 5190 on TCP and in iChat > Preferences > Accounts > Server setting tab change the port to 443

In the Base Station deselect the "Distributing Addresses"

This should allow just the Modem to route and do away with two device doing DHCP (Step one) It will also, as the Airport does NAT at the Same time get rid of two lots of NAT (Port Triggering the modem is NAT based).

The Expresses should still be able to Join the Existing Network (or rather stay with but get IPs from the modem).

What you have currently is the second pic on this page
http://www.ralphjohnsuk.dsl.pipex.com/modemrouterpic.html
It's an animated .gif so it loads in stages to show you what is going on in this case.

P.S. as Tony says Skype at this stage can be easier to get going as it is not so fussy about having a Network set up to optimum.

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Jan 28, 2007 3:19 PM in response to Jan Pieter Melchior

Your router (SMC) has UPnP enabled by default. You
should not have to change any settings. What you
could try is to reset it. That often solves
problems.


Are you sure about that? Not on mine it doesn't. At least the way I see it. There's a picture of the "front page" of the SMC setup at this link There's on UPnP selection on the menu at the left. Nor could I find one as a subset of the menus listed.

I know there is UPnP listed as an option in the software on write ups online, but there is not on the software on my modem. Also I've checked serveral times, it's an SMC7004VWBR, that's written in the front and bottom of the router.

Given the fact that I don't see any UPnP options, is there a way that I can set it to that other than reseting the router to factory defaults (which would, I'm guessing wipe out a password that I can't remember!)?

Jan 28, 2007 3:42 PM in response to Jan Pieter Melchior

Yes,

You can conclude that (apart from me giving the size
of the hole, the object to use, and the address to
access, etc) if you can't find a switch to enable it
it probably is... and you could have been chatting by
now.
When you try to reset we can see how your multi lan
UPnP air extreme x2 network can get the neighbourhood
online. 🙂


Sorry, I don't follow this post all. 🙂

Jan 28, 2007 4:23 PM in response to James Elliott1

Yes James, you are right.
It has no UPnP functionality.
I apologise,they are extremely hard to distinguish.

Would you please reset it anyway. The reason is that once the router has
been set and it is not clear what the settings are it is a good way to trouble shoot. Apart from that resets often fix routers and that happens so often
that it should be done and when it works it is a relief.

So would you reset the SMC7004VWBR please.

JP

MBP 2.33GHz intel core 2 duo 3GB 667 Mhz DDR2 SDRAM Mac OS 9.0.x RAID 2xLc500(8P2120)

Jan 28, 2007 4:42 PM in response to James Elliott1

How do I RESET the router?

You will have to use a paper clip or a similar pointed object to do the reset procedure.

Hard reset: Insert the paper clip to the reset button and hold it down for 15 seconds, while the paper clip is still in unplug the power cord that goes in to the router, now wait for 15 more seconds and then give the power supply back to the router, again wait for 15 more seconds and finally let the clip go. You will see the router's LEDs flashing. If this happens it means that we have successfully completed the reset.



MBP 2.33GHz intel core 2 duo 3GB 667 Mhz DDR2 SDRAM Mac OS 9.0.x RAID 2xLc500(8P2120)

Jan 28, 2007 4:54 PM in response to Ralph-Johns-UK

IN the Efficient device.


The Efficient device is the ADSL modem, which as far as I can tell doesn't do any routing (one phone line in, one ethernet cable out).

Take out the 8th entry as 1 should cover it.


Done.

Take out the 5190 on TCP


And done. I've posted a picture of the new port settings at this link.

in iChat > Preferences > Accounts > Server setting tab change the
port to 443


Done (after I read the instructions that told me to logout before I changed the settings).

In the Base Station deselect the "Distributing Addresses"


Done.

This should allow just the Modem to route and do away
with two device doing DHCP (Step one) It will also,
as the Airport does NAT at the Same time get rid of
two lots of NAT (Port Triggering the modem is NAT
based).


I think you meant the SMC will route since I don't think the modem does that. Or do you know something that I don't about the modem?

Okay, after doing all this I promptly lost connection to the internet. But a quick restart of my laptop and I was connected again. I started iChat and connected to the appleu3test0x channels even doing a three way video chat with two of the channels. Then my mother called and we successfully chatted for close to an hour. So the changes made based on the above instructions haven't adversely effected anything. I'll have to wait to try things out with my dad to see if they solved the problem.

Thanks for all the help.

Jan 28, 2007 4:58 PM in response to Jan Pieter Melchior

How do I RESET the router?

You will have to use a paper clip or a similar
pointed object to do the reset procedure.


Thanks, I think I have reset the modem in the past. The reason I'm not so keen on doing that now is that there's a username and password in the current set up of the router that is needed for me logon to my ISP and connect to the internet. I can't find the paper where I wrote down the password and I can't recall it, hence the leaving the SMC in the loop after I bought the Airport equipment.

So if I reset the modem will the password be lost? Of course I could call my ISP and go through the hoops to change the password. Maybe I'll work on that now.

Jan 28, 2007 5:28 PM in response to James Elliott1

James,

Do you remember making a password? If not you can use the default password or none at all for starters:

Blank password implies that you need to click on login without giving any input.
admin/smcadmin

"But, if you have set a password on your own and not able to recollect it, try resetting the router."
Somehow I don't feel comfortable with this idea, would be very easy to access the router, that just sounds to good.

Let me know what you want to do, I'll be stand by.

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