HomeKit remote access not always working

I've had a couple HomeKit accessories for quite a while now (Phillips Hue lights, Sensi thermostat), and at first they worked pretty well. Lately, the automation's that I have set up, and remote access quits working after a couple days. I have a 4th Generation Apple TV set up as the home hub. I have made sure that:

The Apple TV is connected to the Internet and on the same Wi-Fi network as my other iOS devices during set up.

Updated with the latest version of tvOS, iOS.

I can control my accessories in the Home app on my iOS device (using WiFi).

On my Apple TV, in Settings > Accounts > iCloud, it shows HomeKit as Connected.


But when I disable WiFi on my iPhone, the HomeKit app shows my accessories (and Phillips Hue hub) as "No Response". To fix this I usually get on the Apple TV and log out, then log back into iCloud and it will start working again - for a couple days. Then the automation's quit working, and I check again for a remote connection where I get "No Response". I can always turn the accessories (lights) on and off using WiFi in my home, but remote access and automation's are gone. Any ideas?

BTW I always put the Apple TV to sleep when I'm done with it and the remote access and automation's have worked fine for months at a time without issues (and without me turning on the Apple TV).

Apple TV, tvOS 10.2.2

Posted on Aug 4, 2017 7:07 AM

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Posted on Oct 4, 2018 4:14 PM

So after almost a year of banging my head against the wall and countless restores, removing and re-adding all my accessories. I decided to call again and be adamant it was an iCloud issue. Passed me up 3 tiers of support in the first 20 minutes of the call. Spent almost 2 hours on the phone with Mason. Long story short, he was awesome and actually put effort into figuring it out. Low and behold, it was a “block” on my AppleID. He literally “unchecked” the block at his end and almost instantly I was able to send invites, and after about 10 minutes, AppleTV was recognized as the hub again and I could control everything remotely. So if anyone has also been banging their head against the wall for almost a year, call in and tell them to check that. Kudos to Mason and his excellent customer service for actually making the effort to look into it and ask his peers. Last time it was an endless loop of being passed off by support for 3 weeks until I got frustrated and gave up. Persistence pays off I guess. I knew it wasn’t at my end. Hope this helps anyone else having the same problem! Good luck!

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Oct 28, 2018 3:41 AM in response to ottoharsh

Hi ottoharsh,


I’m not sure if you have the right thread with your comments about WiFi issues... unless I’ve missed something here.

Either way... if you’re not already aware, you can reduce the usage of cellular data usage when connected to WiFi by switching off ‘WiFi assist’ - you’ll find this in settings->mobile data, then scroll all the way to the bottom. This will also show you how much data has been used by this service since the last reset of data counters. I hope this helps you reduce mobile data usage, although you may already be aware of it. Basically, the service is intended to speed up data access when WiFi connectivity is poor or slow.

I cannot comment on the merits/drawbacks of either the X or Xs, as I’m still on the 7. But the WiFi assist service exists across all current models. However, it’s perfectly possible that the actual connectivity is poor on the specific hardware, for some other reason.

Jan 27, 2019 4:45 PM in response to Newday3000

I’ve tried all of the last 7 pages. It’s frustrating to log out of iPhone I cloud because of all of the resets. My guess is there is a conflict between HomePod and Apple TV. It’s getting a little tiring to not have lights on for my dog in the evening when a $5 plug in timer worked perfectly fine. Instead, I’ve adopted to an entire hue system integrated into HomeKit and my little guy sits in the dark. So.. I upgraded to a HomePod. Didn’t fix it. Then.. I upgraded my ATV from a 2.0 to a 4 and it got even worse/less consistent. Maybe I’m biased as I come from the real estate industry and expect/see automation that works. What gives, apple?

Feb 12, 2019 7:31 AM in response to falterego

Wow that’s worse than me! (Based on your efforts)

ive migrated off the HomeKit automation and have individual apps using their independent controls. A little clunky since there isn’t integration, but reliable. Fortunately , I never surrendered my ecobee schedules to HomeKit so they have been intact.


I respect this is an apple forum, but it doesn’t seem we are seeing results. Anyone try the wink system? I hear it’s pretty reliable.

Mar 17, 2019 11:00 AM in response to falterego

It’s been a whopping week and already problems.


When I’m on WiFi at home all my devices work just fine. When I’m not on WiFi at home I can control my Ecobee 3 and my Philips Hue system, but NOT my Lutron wall switches. The Lutron app can still remotely control my switches though.


Last night I did a restart of the Apple TV that acts as the home hub hoping that would fix it, but no luck. I also have a daily 2:00 AM restart of the Apple TV programmed into my Harmony system that made me not believe it would be the fix. I also restarted the Lutron hub to no avail. At least the thermostat works (for now) which was my primary concern. As it warms up in LA I’m going to need the air conditioning to turn on when it’s supposed to.


IoT is dead to me after this failed experiment. Aside from about $500 on equipment my only real investment is my personal time setting up over and over and over...and I still have the individual apps to control things. I just wish Apple gave 1/2 a flying **** about their own product that has repeatedly failed for so many years for so many users.

Aug 7, 2017 7:15 AM in response to sterling r

Well actually I've tried all these steps and I still have intermittent connection issues. In fact last night the automations started working again without me doing anything. I could not connected remotely the day before, but I did not sign out and back into iCloud from the Apple TV. I just left it alone, but last night the lights came on just as they should.


One thing that bothers me is step 3 of the "Get help with your home hub". It states:


Make sure that your device is set up as a home hub:

On your Apple TV, go to Settings > Accounts > iCloud and make sure that your Apple TV shows HomeKit as Connected. If you don’t see HomeKit, then your Apple TV isn't connected as a home hub.


My settings will say that HomeKit is connected, but yet I can't connect remotely. Why is that?


Tom

Oct 25, 2017 8:47 AM in response to tommy0349

It’s sad that you never received a reply to this.


I’m having the same issue as you. Everything is up to date, signed in to the same account, etc. I logged out and back in on all devices, etc., still no remote access when not connected to home WiFi.


I just managed to fix the issue by going on the Apple TV to Settings > Accounts > iCloud and toggling “Connected” / “Not Connected” off and on about 6 times with the Home app open on my phone.


Somehow this solved it, but we’ll see how long it lasts.

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