WiFi in iOS 11 keeps turning on

1. It is in no way a major security risk.

2. It is also not a privacy violation.

3. You must have a defective device if I turn off WiFi on mine (something I rarely do) it does not turn back on at 5:00am

For reasons that have been enumerated in this thread it is probably not going to change. You might want to research phones from other manufacturers. Or better yet get one that does not have WiFi or Bluetooth thus completely eliminating your perceived security risk.

I know. A whole extra tap to turn it off and you'd think Apple was performing water torture. Still, no one can provide a valid reason to turn it off in the first place other than the wrong conclusion it's making their batteries drain or they are somehow being bombarded with radio waves. It's simply bizarre the angst this has caused. And the angst is mostly because these people are so ill-informed.

jackreacherr wrote:

the only thing i know why they want the wifi to keep open is that they can access our data anytime!!! thats invasion of privacy!!! fix it apple!!!

A) That's not how WiFi works and B) if you bothered to read the thread you see that nothing is broken and you can still turn off WiFi if it's all that will assuage your fears, groundless though they may be.

rafaelucena wrote:

I don't think that's the point here man. The point is that they implemented an orthodox method without consulting anyone (as usual) that generates more doubts than answers.

iPhone and Apple products were known for having the best user experience devices in the market... now it seems they are just trying to run against the flow (for a while now, I must admit).

BUT, for the sake of the "update", let's say this would be a good way to implement that (taking by the fact that most cellphones nowadays have a battery life of just a day), why wouldn't they allow any other method to turn off this things easier?

You see, I like Apple products because they are among the safest ones with the less bugs available, but now it seems to me they just want more and more beta testers.

I assume you know how to use Siri, yes? How difficult is it to bring Siri up and say,"Siri, turn Wifi off"

Again, I'm not sure why anyone ever turns the Wifi Radio off, but Apple didn't really make this harder. People like you are just making this a bigger issue than it needs to be. The fact you're making an issue out of it at all is odd to me.

This is incredibly aggravating. The point of the quick access was to be able to quickly turn it on/off. I used that feature extensively to help preserve battery life throughout the day. My battery life has been awful since the update and now I know why. This was a really stupid idea Apple. If you want to drop specific networks of devices that is when it is appropriate to go into settings, not the Control Center menu. Switch it back so we can have our fast on/off again.

I read this thread and another article. And yes, turning the WiFi on and off does make a difference. Especially for me because in the area I work my WiFi keeps reconnecting every time I come and go. Which is a lot. And if no Apple personnel review these boards then where do we go to post messages to make a difference. Literally just registered to the message boards 20 minutes ago.

Rsflowers81 wrote:

Never said it was a torture. I said it was aggravating. And it’s aggravating because they took what was a very simple tool and went backwards with it. Counter intuitive. I’m not going to die from it.

No, they took a very simple tool and IMPROVED IT. You now have a capability you never had before; to disconnect from a current network and still leave Wi-Fi enabled. Something that most users would find much more useful than turning off Wi-Fi and forgetting to turn it back on. Something that I have done regularly, just when I didn't want a Wi-Fi connection for a brief period of time. Once it cost me big bucks because I went over my cellular data limit while roaming.

yes, this is absolutely very annoying.

It's not enough to slide it off because each time you use the WiFi from the control center, it goes on again so you have to remember to enter into the setting and turn it off completely.

This doesn't make sense at all.

And I don't know if it goes on automatically each time I charge the phone as well!

This should be just a no brainer, WiFi ON, WiFi OFF, period. The control center should be just a short-cut and not acting in a different way!

weldong wrote:

This is a an issue with creating an intuitive user interface, which Apple usually excels at.

No, Apple makes interfaces that are easy to learn, really a different thing. None of us are born with an instinctive knowledge of how to use smartphones. The current interface is no harder to learn to use than the previous. It's just different. To me, it's also much more logical. Why should there be a shortcut for something that is rarely necessary and a very clumsy way to do something that most people do need to do?

and btw, this is an Apple discussion, sending here and feedback is suitable

Unless of course, you want Apple to read it. They don't read here for suggestions.

Not one of Apples best ideas, it’s really pointless, reconnecting used to be simple as it was? Why does it need to be automatic? It doesn’t is the short answer. I used that shortcut to turn WiFi on and off all the time, now I need to go into settings every F’ing time?? Why? Who ever needs to disconnect briefly from a connection? Would just press that button and then turn it back on when they wanted lol stupid idea

Just because YOU don't see a need to quickly disconnect from a Bluetooth or Wifi signal doesn't mean other's don't. It may not be useful to you, but that hardly means it's not useful to many many many others. So I'll also entirely, utterly, completely disagree with you. What you and the others fail to comprehend, is this change is actually one of the smartest changes Apple has made in terms of Wifi/Bluetooth connectivity and there is hardly EVER a real reason anyone needs to EVER turn the radios off in the first place.

Gibson1232123 wrote:

Not one of Apples best ideas, it’s really pointless, reconnecting used to be simple as it was? Why does it need to be automatic? It doesn’t is the short answer. I used that shortcut to turn WiFi on and off all the time, now I need to go into settings every F’ing time?? Why? Who ever needs to disconnect briefly from a connection? Would just press that button and then turn it back on when they wanted lol stupid idea

I use it daily.

A great example is at my local mall. One store provides WiFi but it often doesn't work well. I can poke the button to dissociate from that store's WiFi but need do nothing to have my iPhone automatically connect to other hot spots in the mall that do work.

I also can't tell you how many times I used to shut off WiFi in the past and wouldn't remember to turn it back on until days later when I noticed my iCloud backup hadn't run.

If your battery is draining quickly, it's absolutely, completely unequivocally not because your Wifi/Bluetooth radios are on. The amount of battery they use to check every 15 seconds is teeny tiny. Your cellular radio uses a LOT of battery power, especially if you live in an area with marginal cellular service. You don't have to agree with me either. But these are irrefutable facts.

It's not really helpful and pretty useless feature in IOS 11. I have to go to settings - bluetooth or settings - wifi every single time, on top of that additional 3D touch to get into airdrop settings to turn everyone setting off.

OlivierVialet wrote:

Why is it a bad, counter intuitive feature? Let's say : you are boarding a plane (like I do every week for work), you HAVE to turn off WiFi. You thought you did, but you didn't

That's what Airplane mode is for. You get on an airplane, you tap the little button with the airplane icon. I don't know how Apple can make that any simpler.

Imagine this : when you receive a phone number from someone and you press hold it, you can add it to contacts. Simple right? Now if Apple added a feature of "temporary contact", so that when you do this, it only keeps the contact for a day. Yes, it would be suitable for people who need to call many different guys but only for one or two times, without flooding their contacts. BUT for a whole lot of people, it would be a downgrade, because they would need to copy the number, go to contacts, add new contact, paste the number. You get my point?

The point I get is that you aren't very good at analogies. Of course, Apple already has a temporary contact option. It's called "Recents". And the cache in Messages.