WiFi in iOS 11 keeps turning on

How did this “feature” ever get approved?! Clicking off, should turn the WiFi/Bluetooth radio off - just as it did before. Not only does this implementation drain the battery, but it is also a potential security risk.

I don't get any pop-ups saying I should turn Wi-Fi on. It just turns on by itself. I go into my settings many times a day and turn it back off-not just disconnect- OFF. And twenty minutes later my Wi-Fi is back on.

Actually, it won't stay off. Which is what I've been saying. Even with Wi-Fi turned OFF, once I get home, or when I get to work, the Wi-Fi turns ON and connects to a known Wi-Fi source. I know the difference between the control center disconnecting from current Wi-Fi without turning Wi-Fi off, and actually turning Wi-Fi off.

akkankaan wrote:

From my side, it may not be a security issue or even not causes any battery drain, but it is just a quick access problem.

How quickly can you say "Hey Siri, turn off Wi-Fi?" Does it take longer than: Press Home. Swipe up to reveal control center (maybe repeat a couple of times, since it's a tricky maneuver) to reach a button.

The thing you did is good, indeed... Everybody has to tell their opinions to Apple (complain or support). These are just opinions... You may be happy with disconnecting only, but I prefer complete turn-off... This is so normal. Isn't it?

Which the issue only started after the last update. Prior to that I never had an issue. There has been hard factory reset to my iPhone 6s and my wife’s new iPhone 8 and my daughters iPhone 8. All 3 phone experience the same issue. If it only happened to mine then I would agree with you that it was a hardware issue or just an issue with my own phone but 3 out of 3 that a little hard to believe it’s not a software issue.

This is certainly odd behavior. I have two iPhone X and neither will connect to a network I've never connected to.

Do you have Ask To Join Networks turned on on your phone? You should definitely enable that if you haven't.

I agree. We sent my daughters phone out to AppleCare to see if they can do anything about it. Other than a very small inconvenience of manually going into setting to ensure WiFi is off. The phone has no other issues.

Bluetooth uses even less energy than Wi-Fi. Whatever is draining your battery, it is definitely not Wi-Fi or Bluetooth.

And the iPhone protects you against snooping. When queried by a network it sends a random, fake Wi-Fi ID that changes for each query. Oh, and if you turn off "Ask to join networks" it ignores queries from Wi-Fi networks.

This is yet another example of Apple losing touch with their customers and putting their own business interests first. If I turn my wi-fi off, I want it OFF. No 'if, ands or buts.' I am constantly nagged by my phone connecting to my home network when I am too far away for it to work well. It screws everything up. My phone also has an affinity for Xfinity networks, which it randomly connects to, ruining my internet connection. I realize that if I go two steps into settings that I can turn it off, but this is also a pain for when I want to turn it back on.

Why they are doing it...

If your wi-fi is turned off then companies like Apple cannot track where you are, your habbits, where you had lunch, where you shop, where you sleep etc. When your phone's wi-fi is on, your phone is constantly looking for wi-fi access points and can report these access points up to the carrier or Apple - for example, if you are in Macey's, then your phone will can see the Macy's wi-fi access point and report that your are a Macy's shopper - a valuable piece of information.

Oh yes, and please add back my headphone jack! Dongles suck.

Another customer here, who is confused as to why you think ANY control over your phone was removed. Apple didn't take ANYTHING away. No, they actually added functionality that for many people improves the user experience. I happen to be one of those customers. What do you think was taken away? If you say turning Wifi or Bluetooth off, you'd be wrong. You can still turn them off. Just not exactly as it was before.

Gilderon wrote:

I’d have no problem with it if Apple gave us a way to disable or opt out of it, like maybe an option following the update for us to “allow your iPhone to optimize WiFi and Bluetooth settings automatically or retain manual control”. That shouldn’t be to hard of an option to roll out in an iOS update.

Apple doesn't work this way. And you'll never see something like this. Tell Apple what you think via the link we've provided, but don't in any way think they'll all of the sudden give anyone an "opt-out" button.

Gilderon wrote:

Because it’s a known threat and weakness that has been exploited.

It is highly unlikely that anyone will be able to hack your phone via WiFi but, as has been pointed out, you can turn it off. So you can't turn it off the same way you used to. Complaining this much about something so trivial is just a tad absurd.

I just don't know what to make of the fact that you don't care if you're being exploited as long as it's legal. If hacking your phone over WiFi was made legal, would you stop worrying about it?

Amakahi wrote:

I seriously should not have to change a setting in my settings app to turn it on and off 10x a day. Apple customers should at least be informed loudly that a basic menu function has changed so drastically, as it can have affects on peoples data usage and security.

Why are you turning WiFi on and off ten times a day? That's crazy.

And yes, users are informed of the difference now with a pop up alert.

Amakahi wrote:

My argument is that I should be able to shut it off with the slide menu without going into settings, and it stay off, like with previous os builds. Anything else is unnecessary awkward and a potential security issue.

Then you should tell that to Apple. Here is a link for you to use